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Apple drops price on iPhone by $200
Well, it's official. The 4GB iPhone is going away, and the 8GB iPhone will drop in price by $200.
Wowzers to all those who bought an iPhone right out of the gate. I'd be crying in my soup over that one.
Re: BIG Price Drop = Problems In iPhoneLand?
ygbhen said:
I doubt if there are any problems in iPhoneland. It probably has more to do with the attention span of gadget-gobbling consumers. They are off to the next thing now. You know how it is.
Mmm... no, sorry, I don't buy it. You don't cut the price by a third almost right out of the gate just for grins. That's leaving an awful lot of money on the table. :o
It's also without precedent for Apple in recent years. No Mac or iPod ever got price cut by that much, that soon after launch.
Maybe if the price cut had been only $100, I could see it as more of a marketing thing as you do. Something is definitely up...
Re: BIG Price Drop = Problems In iPhoneLand?
SystemShock said:
ygbhen said:
I doubt if there are any problems in iPhoneland. It probably has more to do with the attention span of gadget-gobbling consumers. They are off to the next thing now. You know how it is.
Mmm... no, sorry, I don't buy it. You don't cut the price by a third almost right out of the gate just for grins. That's leaving an awful lot of money on the table. :o
It's also without precedent for Apple in recent years. No Mac or iPod ever got price cut by that much, that soon after launch.
Maybe if the price cut had been only $100, I could see it as more of a marketing thing as you do. Something is definitely up...
Ahem. Attention Mr. Genius...
"ISuppli predicts 4.5 million iPhone sales this year, climbing to 30 million sales in 2011"
Ever heard of "economies of scale"?
Re: Great Idea
A credit is better than nothing as long as you had already planned on buying something else from Apple. Otherwise it's pretty much just as worthless.
I didn't say that I sympathize with the early adopters. I'm just saying what's what. Yeah, that IS how technology works but never by that much that soon. It's unprecedented. And while I don't sympathize, I can definitely understand why any of them would be upset.
And yes, Apple absolutely had to do something. Otherwise the next product it puts out would have pretty crappy sales out of the gate while people waited for the inevitable price drop. And in such a scenario, the lack of faith could cause stock prices to drop, meaning everyone (Apple, customers, stockholders) would be in a bad mood. When you combine the price drops with the rebates and the initial stock price drops, Apple had to eat something like $9 billion. That's not insignificant.
Verizon finally unlocking the chastity belt.
Verizon is making HUGE steps to come out of the gate first here. It's interesting because they are finally breaking out of their micro-view. I believe, in the past, Verizon thought of themselves as just a "Cellular Phone Service" provider. To me, this new news means they are changing their model and viewing themselves now as a "Wireless Communications" company.
We'll see how it all works out, looks like right now you will almost be punished (services wise) for having a non-Verizon device. As with all new changes it will be crazy at first, but after 24-36 months all the billing details/compatibility issues will ironed out and it will be smooth sailing.
I suspect after the sale of the new wireless spectrum and the development of the aforementioned spectrum, you will see wireless as the industry standard for communication devices. Goodbye Comcast Cable TV, Internet & Wire-Base Phone. This new spectrum should provide wireless to everything-- and it looks like Verizon wants to ride the first wave out.
Way to go Verizon for actually attempting to be an innovator for once!!
Re: just get a prepaid phone....
It ultimately depends on the people in question, but I wouldn't get a child a phone unless it was my own child. She's not necessarily going to have much control at all over her nephew's calling habits.
And yes, I think you were right to try to save her some cash. If he does well with the prepaid for a while, maybe then go to a postpaid...but not right out of the gate.
these new Li-ion batteries plus carbon nanotube capacitors
....are the real interesting story. IEEE fellows recently published a journal regarding their work on carbon nanotubes and there use in ultra capacitors. In addition, the transistor was just redesigned with new dielectrics so all of that wasted energy (heat) is not drained out through the gate. Once we start producing devices that combine all of these technologies, we will see laptops that can run on their battery for two weeks without a charge and run at much cooler temperatures.
Re: HAHA at&t IS FASTER!!!
durkadurkha said:
:o here is finally proof from a 100% reliable source.
everyone knows motorola they make your guys moto q, z6, v9m and v3 maxx
for all of those "I'll Die for Verizon" out there when HSxPA is used its refurring to hsdpa and/or hsupa (because Downlink does not effect Uplink speeds)
http://business.motorola.com/experience lte/lte-experience.html
EVDO: (downlink/uplink)
CDMA EVDO Rev 0: 2.4Mbps/155Kbps
CDMA EVDO Rev A: 3.1Mbps/1.8Mbps
CDMA EVDO Rev B: 73.5Mbps/27Mbps
CDMA EVDO Rev C (UMB): 129Mbps/75.6Mbps
HSPA-HSDPA/HSUPA: (downlink/uplink)
UMTS 384Kbps/128Kbps
HSDPA 7.2Mbps/384Kbps
HSDPA/UPA 7.2Mbps/2Mbps
HSPA-E 42Mbs/11Mb/s
Note: A likely path for Verizon Wireless is via the Rev B path (see below) and is a substantially faster technology than any iteration of HSxPA even the HSPA-Evolution phase. Also note that while Rev C is listed, it's not likely to leave the gate unless Japan's DCCI is interested. Note that Rev B is the comparable technology to HSPA. Certainly HSPA is going to be deployed by at@t and notes during 2008. Although not suggested by Verizon, you'd have to assume that with the bulk of the VZW network pretty much Rev A capable and otherwise Verizon leading in data speeds that they've established a path the LTE via Rev B and that a timeline is in place. Verizon is often not much for announcing network upgrades but preferring to deploy before broadcasting the change. Verizon, if not quietly ahead on something, is never far behind and even then only at the announcement phase.
Culled from this very site:
https://www.phonescoop.com/news/
"Qualco mm also announced that is has several new LTE base stations and chipsets that are backward compatible with today's technology...The MDM9800 supports EV-DO Rev. B, UMB and LTE and is likely being made specifically to help Verizon transition from CDMA to LTE."
So, carriers will be neck and neck. However, I would not be as apt to run to your nearest Verizon forum before knowing the technology and deployment dynamics that surround them.
Who will jump on Qchat at lauch??????/
me!!! Anyone getting the z400 right out of the gate???
Re: Who will jump on Qchat at lauch??????/
BROWN27 said:
me!!! Anyone getting the z400 right out of the gate???
I will be getting a QChat phone for the Mrs. Where I work, it's wired up to receive the iDEN signal, and my PCS signal is only so-so; therefore, Powersource is as far as I'll be able to go.
Researchers claim GSM calls can be hacked on the cheap
Callers, your worst nightmare is coming true... maybe. According to a report, a group of hackers at the Black Hat conference in Washington D.C. claim that they're able to hack GSM calls with equipment costing about $1,000. If you believe the team (and we're inclined to at least have a listen), they can decrypt GSM phone conversations and text messages on a network using inexpensive tools called field programmable gate arrays. Until now, the cost of the technology required to hack GSM transmissions has been prohibitively expensive for all but your government and large-scale snooping operations, but that's beginning to change. Not only can this technique allow access to calls, but some of the tech demonstrated at the conference might also enable a user to pinpoint a phone's distance from the surveillance hardware, and find out what type of device is being used. There was no mention of CDMA hacking, so you might want to move over to Sprint for all your seedy activities. Er, we mean stay on Sprint
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I guess CDMA isn't so bad after all. (better call my bookie and tell him to switch)
props/credit to engadget mobile for the story
Intersting Engadget Article About GSM Hacking
Researchers claim GSM calls can be hacked on the cheap
Posted Feb 21st 2008 10:10PM by Joshua Topolsky
Filed under: GSM, Misc
Callers, your worst nightmare is coming true... maybe. According to a report, a group of hackers at the Black Hat conference in Washington D.C. claim that they're able to hack GSM calls with equipment costing about $1,000. If you believe the team (and we're inclined to at least have a listen), they can decrypt GSM phone conversations and text messages on a network using inexpensive tools called field programmable gate arrays. Until now, the cost of the technology required to hack GSM transmissions has been prohibitively expensive for all but your government and large-scale snooping operations, but that's beginning to change. Not only can this technique allow access to calls, but some of the tech demonstrated at the conference might also enable a user to pinpoint a phone's distance from the surveillance hardware, and find out what type of device is being used. There was no mention of CDMA hacking, so you might want to move over to Sprint for all your seedy activities. Er, we mean stay on Sprint.
Interesting Article On GSM Hacking
Researchers claim GSM calls can be hacked on the cheap
Posted Feb 21st 2008 10:10PM by Joshua Topolsky
Filed under: GSM, Misc
Callers, your worst nightmare is coming true... maybe. According to a report, a group of hackers at the Black Hat conference in Washington D.C. claim that they're able to hack GSM calls with equipment costing about $1,000. If you believe the team (and we're inclined to at least have a listen), they can decrypt GSM phone conversations and text messages on a network using inexpensive tools called field programmable gate arrays. Until now, the cost of the technology required to hack GSM transmissions has been prohibitively expensive for all but your government and large-scale snooping operations, but that's beginning to change. Not only can this technique allow access to calls, but some of the tech demonstrated at the conference might also enable a user to pinpoint a phone's distance from the surveillance hardware, and find out what type of device is being used. There was no mention of CDMA hacking, so you might want to move over to Sprint for all your seedy activities. Er, we mean stay on Sprint.
Can You Hack Me Now? GSM no good?
Researchers claim GSM calls can be hacked on the cheap
Posted Feb 21st 2008 10:10PM by Joshua Topolsky
Filed under: GSM, Misc
Callers, your worst nightmare is coming true... maybe. According to a report, a group of hackers at the Black Hat conference in Washington D.C. claim that they're able to hack GSM calls with equipment costing about $1,000. If you believe the team (and we're inclined to at least have a listen), they can decrypt GSM phone conversations and text messages on a network using inexpensive tools called field programmable gate arrays. Until now, the cost of the technology required to hack GSM transmissions has been prohibitively expensive for all but your government and large-scale snooping operations, but that's beginning to change. Not only can this technique allow access to calls, but some of the tech demonstrated at the conference might also enable a user to pinpoint a phone's distance from the surveillance hardware, and find out what type of device is being used. There was no mention of CDMA hacking, so you might want to move over to Sprint for all your seedy activities. Er, we mean stay on Sprint.
GSM Rules!! Can You Hack Me Now? Good!
Researchers claim GSM calls can be hacked on the cheap
Posted Feb 21st 2008 10:10PM by Joshua Topolsky
Filed under: GSM, Misc
Callers, your worst nightmare is coming true... maybe. According to a report, a group of hackers at the Black Hat conference in Washington D.C. claim that they're able to hack GSM calls with equipment costing about $1,000. If you believe the team (and we're inclined to at least have a listen), they can decrypt GSM phone conversations and text messages on a network using inexpensive tools called field programmable gate arrays. Until now, the cost of the technology required to hack GSM transmissions has been prohibitively expensive for all but your government and large-scale snooping operations, but that's beginning to change. Not only can this technique allow access to calls, but some of the tech demonstrated at the conference might also enable a user to pinpoint a phone's distance from the surveillance hardware, and find out what type of device is being used. There was no mention of CDMA hacking, so you might want to move over to Sprint for all your seedy activities. Er, we mean stay on Sprint.
Re: Can You Hack Me Now? GSM no good?
bigdaddyjay said:
Researchers claim GSM calls can be hacked on the cheap
Posted Feb 21st 2008 10:10PM by Joshua Topolsky
Filed under: GSM, Misc
Callers, your worst nightmare is coming true... maybe. According to a report, a group of hackers at the Black Hat conference in Washington D.C. claim that they're able to hack GSM calls with equipment costing about $1,000. If you believe the team (and we're inclined to at least have a listen), they can decrypt GSM phone conversations and text messages on a network using inexpensive tools called field programmable gate arrays. Until now, the cost of the technology required to hack GSM transmissions has been prohibitively expensive for all but your government and large-scale snooping operations, but that's beginning to change. Not only can this technique allow access to calls, but some of the tech demonstrated at the conference might also enable a user to pinpoint a phone's distance from the surveillance hardware, and find out what type of device is being used. There was no mention of CDMA hacking, so you might want to move over to Sprint for all your seedy activities. Er, we mean stay on Sprint.
Who cares. The treid to scare us with the big BT Scare a year ago. now our phones can be hacked. I have nothing to hide. Bring it on!!
Re: has anyone who works cust care for sprint noticed,
haha i normally help store reps but when its really slow they switch the gate and i take regular cust calls, in the early afternoon they suck but they aren'tr eally all that bad, but after about 5 pm all h3ll breaks loose when the regular customers call in. its like they are all werewolves or something.
Re: Out-sourced support
crackberry said:
it still takes overflow from our puerto rico call center for spanish speaking customers.
Miami is our other Spanish Gate. We have nothing in Mexico as It was sold (wireless) before the merger was completed.
New HTC phones for sprint with VGA!!!
No one really knows whether HTC's May 6 gathering will usher in the age of Android (our guess is still "no"), but let's look a little beyond that, shall we? We've just laid eyes on a handful of documents detailing HTC's efforts to ready the Diamond and Raphael models -- already known to be valid HTC codenames -- for Sprint later this year, and things are definitely looking up in the post-Touch world. The Diamond turns out to be the successor to that very device, lacking a physical keyboard and relying almost exclusively on a large, glossy touchscreen for user input; the Raphael meanwhile (pictured) features a full QWERTY deal and is destined to replace the Mogul. The paperwork's pretty blurry, but it appears that both Windows Mobile devices will feature WiFi, 3 megapixel cameras, and -- get this -- VGA displays. Goodness! The Raphael is currently lined up to be the first out of the gate, hitting the streets in September if everything goes well, with the Diamond following on in November. Surprised that these devices are CDMA-based and Sprint bound? Us too, we admit -- but we'd be shocked if there weren't GSM twins of both of these hotties getting cooked in the lab at the same time. :-)... :-)... :-)...
[Thanks, anonymous tipster]
http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/23/htcs- raphael-and-diamond-coming-to-sprint-and-looking-g ood/
New Subsidy Password Protocol??
So I upgrade a customer stright out of the gate this morning. She stated she was going to China and Japan in a few weeks. So I put her into a z750 as it picks up UMTS 2100 mhz frequency. She further inquires about getting this new phone unlocked.
So I call care and tell them the customer is needing the unlock code for her new phone and that I wish to be transfered to Teir 2 tech support so they can start a case request. Done this many times before with a week turnaround time.
The CS rep tells me to hold on....anticipating she warm transfers me over to tech support. She comes back 30 seconds later and asks if I was ready. I said sure, and she gave me the unlock code. I was surprised she generated it so quick.
Apparently, in Snooper, she can pull the unlock code for any phone. So I pop in an unused T-Mobile SIM and enter the code. Phone unlocked and power cycled itsself. Done.
Did anyone else know that regular care could do this? This is great news.
Will
