Does this mean that EU and US phones still won't be compatible?
Finland Choose 1800MHz for LTE
Today, 2:23 PM by Eric M. Zeman
Finland has chosen to auction off spectrum in the 1800MHz band for future Long Term Evolution networks. Other European countries are looking at 2600MHz spectrum for their own LTE deployments. Finland's Ministry of Transport and Communications believes that using 1800MHz will be a better option, as it offers better penetration, wider coverage and lower cost to deploy compared to the 2600MHz spectrum. In the U.S., network operators such as AT&T and Verizon will use 700MHz to deploy LTE networks.
Today, 2:23 PM by Eric M. Zeman
Finland has chosen to auction off spectrum in the 1800MHz band for future Long Term Evolution networks. Other European countries are looking at 2600MHz spectrum for their own LTE deployments. Finland's Ministry of Transport and Communications believes that using 1800MHz will be a better option, as it offers better penetration, wider coverage and lower cost to deploy compared to the 2600MHz spectrum. In the U.S., network operators such as AT&T and Verizon will use 700MHz to deploy LTE networks.
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I would think so or at least on on the LTE side. Unless a manufacturer designs a chip with all of the frequencies on it.
As it stands right now for the CDMA world you will still be stuck with having to have a different device if you travel overseas.
If you are on a GSM network then you will just have to live with the slower speeds of the GSM network in that country.
Granted all this depends on how those other countries deal with their existing GSM networks. If there is enough frequency to go around they may drop it all together and have only LTE as there network and reallocate the other bands to something else. But this is very unlikely IMO.
As it stands right now for the CDMA world you will still be stuck with having to have a different device if you travel overseas.
If you are on a GSM network then you will just have to live with the slower speeds of the GSM network in that country.
Granted all this depends on how those other countries deal with their existing GSM networks. If there is enough frequency to go around they may drop it all together and have only LTE as there network and reallocate the other bands to something else. But this is very unlikely IMO.
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I would think eventually both CDMA and GSM will be turned off. Obviously many years down the road when it's in a state like Analog is today. Once the entire network is 100% LTE and the majority of users have new equipment there will be no reason to keep the old network. Indeed today's GSM users will be in a hard place when that comes and they are no longer compatible over seas. Who knows though, we have years before that happen and a lot could develop.
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It's really a shame. I was hoping that once LTE was introduced, it would work on the same frequencies worldwide. But based on most everything else (electrical voltage, DVD players, etc.), this was too much to hope for.
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I don't think the difference in voltage has anything to do with the platform, if I'm understanding what you are saying. The European standard of 220VAC is so much more efficient than what we have here in the States. With our 110-120VAC comes the dreaded "60 cycle hum" that is non-existant overseas.
As far as LTE is concerned, perhaps those parts of the world utilizing GSM on the various frequencies will come around to LTE, as it has been suggested. However, that would be a very expensive proposition to persue on their part, in light of the world-wide economic decline. I would vote for some kind of a meeting of the minds no sooner than five to ten years from now, and IF LTE is superior to GSM, which impressed the heck out of me when ...
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As far as LTE is concerned, perhaps those parts of the world utilizing GSM on the various frequencies will come around to LTE, as it has been suggested. However, that would be a very expensive proposition to persue on their part, in light of the world-wide economic decline. I would vote for some kind of a meeting of the minds no sooner than five to ten years from now, and IF LTE is superior to GSM, which impressed the heck out of me when ...
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My only point about electrical voltage was that it's just one more example of different standards throughout the world.
As for LTE, from the article I posted, it does appear that Europe will adopt LTE, but it will utilize different frequencies for it than will the U.S.
As for LTE, from the article I posted, it does appear that Europe will adopt LTE, but it will utilize different frequencies for it than will the U.S.
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Then what's the point? I mean, when UK folks come here and they want to use their phone, they're going to be as inconvenienced as us going there. I just started using the Samsung Renown, which is dual band CDMA and quad-band GSM. Seems to me that I could go just about anywhere in the world and use that phone, right? Maybe making phones with EVERYTHING in them may be the only way to go to overcome the shortsightedness.
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What's the point? I thought I was pretty clear. My point is that I had hoped that once LTE was adopted that it would be adopted as a worldwide standard (or at least in Europe and the U.S.), utilizing the same frequencies, so that all phones would work in either place. It appears, though, that such will not be the case. I'm glad your Renown works for you. I was hoping, though, that with the advent of LTE, it would not continue to be necessary to have a phone specifically for worldwide service.
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https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=99 »
Take the grid on that page, imagine a dozen others similar to it but allocated completely differently.
THIS is the world of available 4G spectrum. Every country (almost) has its own Spectrum policy and distribution. Adding new technology and encoding schemes can only make universal handsets LESS feasible until cognitive radio becomes a practical reality.
Don't bet on that happening any time soon.
Take the grid on that page, imagine a dozen others similar to it but allocated completely differently.
THIS is the world of available 4G spectrum. Every country (almost) has its own Spectrum policy and distribution. Adding new technology and encoding schemes can only make universal handsets LESS feasible until cognitive radio becomes a practical reality.
Don't bet on that happening any time soon.
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Right, Howard. You and I agree. I want to see a system that is universal all over the world. The next post below this mentions something else altogether different that may or may not allow this to happen, but that post's pont is it won't with LTE. I'm guessing that a universal system will not go into effect until perhaps satellite communication, rather than towers, becomes standard. Of course, you're going to really need some very fast speeds to prevent the time lag.
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OK, so something I haven't had to mention here before, but I have some insight into radio spectrum. I went to college to become an electronics engineer with my focus in radio technology. I currently maintain two FCC licenses and had another previously, at least until the FCC altered some of the laws concerning broadcasting. I've seen just about every US spectrum chart from amateur radio to unlicensed 2.4 GHz.
If every country had come together initially to discuss radio spectrum usage - and I'm talking almost 100 years ago now - then we wouldn't be complaining about how AMPS/TDMA/CDMA/GSM/LTE and more exist on different frequencies in different countries. One country's microwave telephone relay system could be another country's emerge...
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If every country had come together initially to discuss radio spectrum usage - and I'm talking almost 100 years ago now - then we wouldn't be complaining about how AMPS/TDMA/CDMA/GSM/LTE and more exist on different frequencies in different countries. One country's microwave telephone relay system could be another country's emerge...
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