LG VX-8100
Big Deal
I have been reading a lot about the new phones that Verizon offers and am disappointed at what I am read. They are crippling the functions of Blue-tooth and the mini SD cards. If that is the case and continues to be the case then as far as I am concerned any of these phones that have these features are useless. I think it is unfair to offer phones at high prices because of these features and then to cripple them. They should be sued. I am so happy that I was fortunate enough to have purchased the Audiovox 9900 in the 3 weeks it seemed to be available.
MIF.
MIF.
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Yeah, but think about it. IF you could transfer all of your ringtones, pics, and videos with bluetooth/ expansion cards, then that is a huge profit loss on verizon's part. I see what they are doing, and why they are doing it.
I think if thes features aren't fully integrated, they shouldn't advertise them, because it leads to people buying something thinking they have this all in one gadget, only to realize that they have only half of what they thought they bought.
I think if thes features aren't fully integrated, they shouldn't advertise them, because it leads to people buying something thinking they have this all in one gadget, only to realize that they have only half of what they thought they bought.
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I see what they are doing, and why they are doing it too. They are doing it to keep revenues up. But what they are not seeing is that their main competition allows all of these features. They will start losing customers, slowly but surely, once people begin to realize what they are doing. It is why I left (yes, I still have a VZW phone, but I cut my service way back) and moved my primary cell phone to Cingular.
The unfortunate thing is that most people who frequent this site already know what they are doing. The general public is too dumb and blind to see that their phone should be able to do more than Verizon allows them to do with their phone.
The unfortunate thing is that most people who frequent this site already know what they are doing. The general public is too dumb and blind to see that their phone should be able to do more than Verizon allows them to do with their phone.
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Are you kidding me? You OBVIOUSLY do not work in the wireless industry. MOST PEOPLE DO NOT GIVE A RATS BEHIND about fully functional bluetooth or any of the more advanced features in cell phones. Studies show that over 90% of people want simplicity and cell phones that are inexpensive. If you think Verizon is going to "slowly but surely" loose customers over $300+ phones you are mistaken my friend. The wireless industry is more concerned about revenue. Regardless of what people may say about Verizon, what they are doing is making them more revenue then any other wireless carrier. More revenue leads to more spectrum being aquired, which leads to more network enhancements, which leads to more & better coverage. Verizon puts more than 5...
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Yeah VZMoney is correct, ppl are hoping all over the v710 and it sucks ass. However, you all probably didnt hear but verizon was indeed sued for crippling the bluetooth for false advertisement and various other things. rumor has it that they are going to offer phone with these features without the get it now and fully integrate the bluetooth and miniSD slot. We will see.
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You are correct about 1 thing: That I do not work in the wireless industry. However, I do have many connections (away from this site) within the industry, and I am responsible for the procurement and account maintenance of all of my company's wireless phones. So you could say I have my fair share of knowledge of the industry.
There is a reason that "over 90% of people want simplicity and cell phones that are inexpensive." That reason is because Verizon hasn't had any competition for so long, and has kept their customers behind the technology for so long that most of their customers don't even know what most phones can, or should, do for them.
And I have no doubts that they are making more revenue than any other carrier. I have s...
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There is a reason that "over 90% of people want simplicity and cell phones that are inexpensive." That reason is because Verizon hasn't had any competition for so long, and has kept their customers behind the technology for so long that most of their customers don't even know what most phones can, or should, do for them.
And I have no doubts that they are making more revenue than any other carrier. I have s...
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SuperDave on Howard forums developed a hack that supposedly opened it up for the V710, but I cannot say for sure, as I never tried his software.
So the answer is yes, there are hacked versions of the software, but you have to know how to flash your phone in order for it to work.
So the answer is yes, there are hacked versions of the software, but you have to know how to flash your phone in order for it to work.
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I'm not saying you are wrong. I agree with the fact that they shouldn't be crippling their bluetooth equipment. Unfortunatly, the reason behind the crippling is because Verizon has various BIG MONEY contracts with BREW providers which they have had for years, before most people thought they would be transfering multimedia and data files over cell phones. One thing I have realized is that Verizon is a VERY smart company. Don't let anyone fool you. Anyone who has done their homework in this industry knows this. It's the same reason they have Cingular chewing their fingernails and losing sleep, which most third-party wireless analysts can confirm. Yes, I work for Verizon. I'm just sick of people bashing them OVER AND OVER for one mistak...
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SForsyth01 said:
There is a reason that "over 90% of people want simplicity and cell phones that are inexpensive." That reason is because Verizon hasn't had any competition for so long, and has kept their customers behind the technology for so long that most of their customers don't even know what most phones can, or should, do for them.
I think we're looking at something here. 90% of consumers are old people, housewives, technophobic dolts, teenage kids... well, people in general. The other 10% include grown up kids who want high tech toys and real business men who need something usefull--think about that. All the initial features of a phone is built around something, not nothing.
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the rule of thumb is a company will get away with what they can until somebody stops them. You can't say that they are wrong because they upholding their word. Read your contract, basicly it tells you that you agree to do business the way that they want to. Sorry about your misguided emotions. 😈 😉
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You mean I won't be able to dump my phone list onto my computer and back (which I do now from my v60 with a $20 cable)?
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SForsyth01 said:
I see what they are doing, and why they are doing it too. They are doing it to keep revenues up. But what they are not seeing is that their main competition allows all of these features. They will start losing customers, slowly but surely, once people begin to realize what they are doing. It is why I left (yes, I still have a VZW phone, but I cut my service way back) and moved my primary cell phone to Cingular.
The unfortunate thing is that most people who frequent this site already know what they are doing. The general public is too dumb and blind to see that their phone should be able to do more than Verizon allows them to do with their phone.
That is kinda narrow minded, don't...
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What are you smoking???? I am not complaining about having to buy any hardware. I am simply stating that VZW enjoys keeping great features from their customers.
I am stating that, in my opinion, VZW needs to re-evaluate their business procedures and business decisions. And I am also stating that whoever negotiated the BREW contracts (which are causing VZW to cripple the Bluetooth) is an idiot.
I am stating that, in my opinion, VZW needs to re-evaluate their business procedures and business decisions. And I am also stating that whoever negotiated the BREW contracts (which are causing VZW to cripple the Bluetooth) is an idiot.
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I can tell you the whole coverage area issue is not an issue where I live. I had Verizon for a year, and then got my employee account with AT&T. From my expierence the GSM coverage in Orlando,FL is much, much better then CDMA. I get reception in my house! I never got that with CDMA or TDMA. Being the person I am, I like gadgets. I love to have the newest and best phone, so Cingular is the logical choice for me.
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This is why I have an account with VZW and one with Cingular. Because I can have the newest thing on both networks. And the coverage is pretty much equal where I am in western Pennsylvania.
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I can't see forking out all the cash. Especially since my plan is unlimited everything except long distance for free. 😁
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I really couldn't justify spending money on two accounts no matter how cool the technology is. 😲
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It is easy to justify when one is for business and one is personal. My company pays for most of the one account (except for the text messaging and mobile web). 😉
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very true, I often think about getting a Nextel account because I have like a million friends with direct connect. I dunno though, I kind of like not worry about a cellphone bill.
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You're not going to get better coverage due to a technology(CDMA vs GSM) nowadays. You get better coverage due to your proximity to a tower and the number of towers handling capacity. You're likely getting coverage in your house now because there is a ATT tower closer to you than a Verizon tower.
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Yeah, same as what is happening with the F&*%$#ing Motorola V710 from Verizon, they hider the capabilities of the bluetooth so that you can't do anything with it except headset and internet.
I have a V551 from Cingular, I use bluetooth all the time to transfer ringtones, pictures, videos, games, etc... Obviously Cingular is not scared of profit loss so that they don't have to cripple their phones. That's why I hate VZW, they seriously do not care how happy their customers are.
I was a Verizon customer even since before they were Airtouch. I think they were called Allstate Cellular, then Airtouch, then Verizon. I left them after 10 years of service with them. They just pissed me off with the whole V710 issue.
/Rant off
I have a V551 from Cingular, I use bluetooth all the time to transfer ringtones, pictures, videos, games, etc... Obviously Cingular is not scared of profit loss so that they don't have to cripple their phones. That's why I hate VZW, they seriously do not care how happy their customers are.
I was a Verizon customer even since before they were Airtouch. I think they were called Allstate Cellular, then Airtouch, then Verizon. I left them after 10 years of service with them. They just pissed me off with the whole V710 issue.
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If Cingular was worried about profit then they could improve their system up to VZW standards quicker.
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I don't know what crippling is, is it like anything Sony makes there products propietary(like the Memory stick Pro).
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Crippling is when the manufacturer of the device (phone) builds in certain features but the retailer blocks those features from being functional.
It's like buying a car with 8 cylinders from the factory but when it gets to the dealer he takes out 2 spark plugs.
It's like buying a car with 8 cylinders from the factory but when it gets to the dealer he takes out 2 spark plugs.
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i'll tell ya wat, that does suck for some one who want to use those features. alls well that ends well thanks for the answer
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To SForsyth01 I think your being a bit excentric about your moronic statement " I am simply stating that VZW enjoys keeping great features from their customers". You have any idea how stupid that statment sounds? I am sure verizon wants to disable it on purpose. Look into the vx6600 and the blackberry 7250 let me know what you find on the BT capabilities.
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TommyBoy, The 6600 and 7250 aren't crippled because they do not utilize BREW, therefore no reason to cripple. I work for Verizon and will agree that the crippling of the v710 (and unfortunatly the e815 so I've seen) was a pretty poor decision, but like I have said time and time again, age old BREW contracts are the reasons behind it.
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And I know about the brew issue as well and I too work for the company. My point wasn't about that. My point was that he said verizon enjoys crippling the BT.. I was offering an example as to why he was wrong...
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Do you have any idea how long there contract with BREW is for.
Also, with the lawsuit over the v710 (and customer dissapoinntment) do you know if there are any plans to allow all the features of BT and Transflash cards. Or at least lighten up on some of the restrictions.
Also, with the lawsuit over the v710 (and customer dissapoinntment) do you know if there are any plans to allow all the features of BT and Transflash cards. Or at least lighten up on some of the restrictions.
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I am not sure how long the contract with brew is. Maybe with the emergence of evdo things will change in that department and java will be able to enter the picture.. that would be sweet.
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