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Definitions of Touch Screen...End to debate!

superballs5337

Nov 26, 2008, 9:48 AM
Definitions of Touch Screen on the Web:

1.Input device over the television or a special computer screen that is used to simplify user input and response. ...
tr.wou.edu/ntac/documents/fact_sheets/glossar y.htm

2.an interactive visual display device which the user interacts by touching the screen to select options from a displayed menu. ...
www.gbc.hu/english/bszotare4.htm

3.a display, which is aimed at human touch to operate.
www.braemacca.com/glossary/

4.A special monitor that lets the user make choices by touching icons or graphical buttons on the screen.
www.angelfire.com/ny3/diGi8tech/TGlossary.htm l

5.An input/output device that accept input directly from the monitor , the user touches words, graphical icons, or symbols...
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 26, 2008, 12:38 PM
It is still not a traditional touch screen. You just proved that with your definitions. At no time on the Storm do you ever touch the screen. Screen being used to refer to the display in these cases. You touch a separate piece of hardware that is situated over the actual display.

Traditional LCD touch screens feel soft and gel-like to the touch. The ones with hard, solid covers are adaptations of touch screens. In cases such as iPhone, and others, they have gone the extra step to integrate that hard cover fully with the display as to produce a full function touch screen. In the case of the Storm they have not fully integrated the two pieces of hardware and rely on manual triggers.

Your inability to understand the design aside, it is ...
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superballs5337

Nov 26, 2008, 1:14 PM
thats not what im getting at. look at it in the most simple of ways. are you touching the screen. yes... so there for its a touch screen. its not a touch pad phone. you have to touch the screen area. a pad has no visual effects/affects. a screen does. in the end your not right or wrong and neither am i. its all matter of opinion.
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 26, 2008, 1:58 PM
It is a touch screen device. It has a two part screen which consists of the display and the display screen. It is still not a true, full function touch screen interface. The person that pointed that out is completely correct. The screen does nothing but sense location, not a thing more. You do not actually initiate any functions via the touch screen. The screen simple tells the display where your finger is at in relation to the display. That's all. In true, full function touch screen the interface both senses location and receives other input as well.

This phone is considered a touch screen only because the track pad happens to be located on top of the screen. The display and track pad are not integrated. In reality it is a track pad devi...
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jharo

Nov 26, 2008, 2:34 PM
Maybe you should research Capacitive touch screen and Resistive touch screen. The 'soft' feel your referring to is plastic. The 'hard' your referring to is glass.
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 26, 2008, 2:51 PM
jharo said:
Maybe you should research Capacitive touch screen and Resistive touch screen. The 'soft' feel your referring to is plastic. The 'hard' your referring to is glass.

You need to learn to be able to distinguish method from means. Capacitive and resistive are two different methods to achieve the same means. Resistive and capacitive are two different technologies that achieve the same result. A touch display device. In both cases, the display itself is still a soft medium. LCD displays are not rigid themselves. The rigidity is dependent on the materials and means used on top of them.

What distinguishes a full function touch display is not the method, but the amount of flexibility and manipulation ...
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Scotty_bing

Nov 26, 2008, 3:42 PM
From what I can see, that was the biggest waste of your time... ever. You cited all these different websites trying to put an end to the "Touch Screen" debate... didn't really work. People still debated it... Not to disrespect you, but don't ever post and say "End to debate" because I promise you, it won't be ending anytime soon after you post that.
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 26, 2008, 3:55 PM
Gathering information and presenting a well planned argument is never a waste of time...even if you end up on the wrong end. The process itself is worthwhile. 🙂
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willv

Nov 26, 2008, 3:44 PM
why do we keep doing this.

we are asking if it is a touch screen right?

well, YOU TOUCH THE SCREEN, so its TOUCH SCREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

can we move on now please?

thanks 🙂
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 26, 2008, 3:54 PM
Actually, you technically DO NOT touch the screen. You touch a transparent cover that is mounted over the screen. Kind of like a big transparent button. They are two separate pieces of hardware. Why is that so hard for some people to understand?
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jharo

Nov 26, 2008, 4:26 PM
Well by that statment, you don't 'touch' the screen on any other screen either. You touch the 2nd or 3rd layer (depending on the type of touch screen) of the assembly.
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 26, 2008, 4:34 PM
The difference comes with the levels of integration. In devices such as the iPhone the display and the touch interface are fully integrated. That is not the case with the storm. The touch interface over the screen is no more integrated with the screen than is the touch pad on your laptop.
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jharo

Nov 26, 2008, 4:38 PM
Ok, I some what agree, except that the touch is a little more integrated that the touch pad of a laptop. And you are actually touching the screen to complete some functions.
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 26, 2008, 4:42 PM
it is only more integrated than the touch pad in so much as it is located directly over the screen. As far as actual connectivity and input it is pretty much on the same level.
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superballs5337

Nov 26, 2008, 5:02 PM
I knew it wouldnt end the debate and i put that to get attention. but truely we are all wrong and right because again its all matter of OPINION.

OPINION is all we have here folks.
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DiamondPro

Nov 26, 2008, 7:09 PM
This is not an opinion this is a fact! The Storm is a push screen phone! 😎
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 26, 2008, 7:17 PM
DiamondPro said:
This is not an opinion this is a fact! The Storm is a push screen phone! 😎

"Push screen" is a pretty fair description. 🙂
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Overmann

Nov 26, 2008, 8:06 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, we have buzz word of the week: PUSH SCREEN

So from now on, I will call the Storm a Push Screen phone.
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 26, 2008, 9:02 PM
Overmann said:
Ladies and gentlemen, we have buzz word of the week: PUSH SCREEN

So from now on, I will call the Storm a Push Screen phone.

Proximity sensative, tactile responsive, push screen to be more precise. 🙂
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willv

Nov 27, 2008, 3:42 PM
you touch the screen, which is on top of a button. put it this way.

on a basic flip phone, your touch buttons to interact with the screen.

on the storm, you touch the screen to interact with the screen AND the button the screen sits on.

anyway you look at it, you touch the screen. it isnt that hard to see
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PlayboyPenguin

Nov 27, 2008, 4:07 PM
You are wrong. The outer cover does not even touch the screen.
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jm102602

Nov 27, 2008, 5:50 PM
just ignore this playboy guy he is trying to be technical about the whole thing and all he is doing is getting everyone worked up of a stupid definition. He doesn't even own the phone ignore him
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RobDave

Nov 27, 2008, 6:14 PM
Yes, remain ignorant. That is always the best plan. 🙄

The cover does not touch the screen. Just take a look at the black rubber gasket between the two pieces.

As for owning the phone, I owned it but chose to not accept such a flawed item simply because I want it to be good.
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RobDave

Nov 27, 2008, 6:15 PM
In fact I still own it. It is in the box in the hall closet waiting to be returned.
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jm102602

Nov 27, 2008, 6:51 PM
Ok doesn't really matter if you own the phone or not even though I wasn't referring to you. I don't think we really need to flood the forum with a stupid technical meaning of the screen.
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RobDave

Nov 27, 2008, 10:09 PM
I know you were not referring to me. I was just making the point that I do/did own the phone and what he is saying is true. Whether or not he, or she, owns the phone does not change that fact.

As for technical data, that is one of the reasons forums like this one exist. Many of us want to know the specifics about the phones.
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picksix

Dec 1, 2008, 4:08 AM
Up until getting it in my hands in the Verizon store last week, I thought it was a touch screen device and I would be able to finesse it with light taps the way I do my LG Dare. I was not expecting the way it actually works. When the V rep handed it to me I started tapping and he said, no you have to Press. Was it widely known prior to release that the Storm is not touch screen in the same manner as the iphone?
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willv

Nov 28, 2008, 8:53 PM
im not wrong, lets change the word screen with the word display.

the display (being the part you look at) is the screen.

you need to touch the display (screen) to do anything with the phone.

thus, you touch the display (screen)

making it a touch screen.
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DiamondPro

Nov 29, 2008, 5:48 PM
Are we still talking about this push screen phone? 🤣
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superballs5337

Dec 1, 2008, 1:53 PM
lol yeah. if they want to get really technical no phone is a true touch screen. all of them have a protective layer so ha.
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