BlackBerry Storm 9530
Other big name phone launch mess ups
Three high profile ones come to mind for me recently:
1. The iphone
2. The G-1 "Google phone"
3. The Storm
All three were buggy phones or at the very least not up to their full potential when released. All have had lots of hype attached to them. All are complex phones.
I guess one of my points is that if you have to be the first in line for the latest and the greatest, there can be a price paid. Either wait for perfection or be the first on your block with the latest and coolest phone at the time.
Any more phone launch mess ups that you can think of???...the list is probably endless
1. The iphone
2. The G-1 "Google phone"
3. The Storm
All three were buggy phones or at the very least not up to their full potential when released. All have had lots of hype attached to them. All are complex phones.
I guess one of my points is that if you have to be the first in line for the latest and the greatest, there can be a price paid. Either wait for perfection or be the first on your block with the latest and coolest phone at the time.
Any more phone launch mess ups that you can think of???...the list is probably endless
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after reading the list, its suprising the dare wasnt messed up (as bad) at launch lol
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I would not call the iPhone release a mess up at all. It was a new machine with an upgradeable system. Even with it's initial (and continued) flaws it was still the most advanced device on the market and still became the worlds leading cell phone seller. I would not call that a "mess up." People lined up around stores to buy them and the returns were minimal. iPhones were selling for twice their value on the blacket market for months after release. I do not forsee the Storm doing that.
Trying to compare the launch of a sub-par device by an already established cell phone producer with the launch of the first iPhone is quite a stretch and a pretty weak argument.
Trying to compare the launch of a sub-par device by an already established cell phone producer with the launch of the first iPhone is quite a stretch and a pretty weak argument.
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PlayboyPenguin said:
I would not call the iPhone release a mess up at all. It was a new machine with an upgradeable system. Even with it's initial (and continued) flaws it was still the most advanced device on the market and still became the worlds leading cell phone seller. I would not call that a "mess up." People lined up around stores to buy them and the returns were minimal. iPhones were selling for twice their value on the blacket market for months after release. I do not forsee the Storm doing that.
Trying to compare the launch of a sub-par device by an already established cell phone producer with the launch of the first iPhone is quite a stretch and a pretty weak argument.
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How many cell phones had Apple created before making the iPhone? Yet still the iPhone did very well and is still the most successful smart phone of all times.
How many cell phones has RIM produced? Yet still they release this technological abortion upon the consumer.
Standing by your argument does not increase it's validity.
How many cell phones has RIM produced? Yet still they release this technological abortion upon the consumer.
Standing by your argument does not increase it's validity.
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RIM has NEVER produced a touch screen phone and Apple is still releasing MAJOR updates to fix software problems. The two products have nearly two years between them when they were released. I suspect that if you were posting around the time of the iphones launch you did the same whining.
Read some of the blackberry forums elswhere(not here) most of these guys love their Storms.
You wrote it off in several days, but it appears to already have been a success to those that like Blackberrys
Read some of the blackberry forums elswhere(not here) most of these guys love their Storms.
You wrote it off in several days, but it appears to already have been a success to those that like Blackberrys
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I agree that it is a flawed comparison. Apple was just starting in the cell phone market. They were building a reputation with nowhere to go but up. They still managed to create a truly revolutionary phone. A phone that changed the entire smart phone market and influenced almost all phones to follow it. Blackberry is an established name and has not only released a under performing phone; they did so without really creating anything new or revolutionary. They tried there hand at an established market and fell short. Worse yet, they tried to make something old appear new with the sure touch gimmick and even that has e ploddd in their faces. It is clunky and hard to use and does nothing but slow typing speeds.
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I played with the Storm in the store yesterday and was disappointed. I thought it had a touchscreen. Having to manipulate the little device in my hand in order to physically press the screen is uncomfortable and annoying. I could actually feel discomfort in my thumbs after playing with it for just a few minutes. RIM should have just put a high-quality touchscreen, ala the Dare, etc. in their new pride and joy. Instead, they've built a beautiful device that's a pain to interact with.
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picksix said:
I played with the Storm in the store yesterday and was disappointed. I thought it had a touchscreen. Having to manipulate the little device in my hand in order to physically press the screen is uncomfortable and annoying. I could actually feel discomfort in my thumbs after playing with it for just a few minutes. RIM should have just put a high-quality touchscreen, ala the Dare, etc. in their new pride and joy. Instead, they've built a beautiful device that's a pain to interact with.
One big complaint that many touch screen users have had is the lack of feedback on the devices as they type. More mistakes are made. RIMs approach attempts to address that shortcoming. I think they had to do somet...
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You are wrong on that account too. The method of typing on the Storm was NOT created to increase the effectiveness of typing. It is a shortcoming of there touch-like screen design. Their screen is not so much a touch screen as it is a transparent track pad layered over a stand screen. That makes it necessary to physically activate a manual trigger for each selection.
The whole story about it being better for typing is just advertising. They are trying to makes lemonade out of lemons. Anyone that actually knows how to type on a touch screen sees through the advertising within a day of use.
The whole story about it being better for typing is just advertising. They are trying to makes lemonade out of lemons. Anyone that actually knows how to type on a touch screen sees through the advertising within a day of use.
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Rdraper said:
You are wrong on that account too. The method of typing on the Storm was NOT created to increase the effectiveness of typing. It is a shortcoming of there touch-like screen design. Their screen is not so much a touch screen as it is a transparent track pad layered over a stand screen.
*Ahem* I do think you stole my analogy. 🙂
The bad part is I think you are misusing it. True the screen is not a true touch screen, but I do not think that the typing style is a defect of their design. I think the entire design was based around the touch-and-press typing style. I think you are saying they designed the screen style and then said "oh, this is not going to be good for typing." I think it is more...
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Rdraper said:...Blackberry is an established name and has not only released a under performing phone; they did so without really creating anything new or revolutionary. They tried there hand at an established market and fell short. Worse yet, they tried to make something old appear new with the sure touch gimmick and even that has e ploddd in their faces. It is clunky and hard to use and does nothing but slow typing speeds.
I honestly don't understand all the complaints against the Storm. As I continue to argue, Apple did not invent 'touchscreen' technology. They simply took an idea and improved it. I happen to like the innovation Blackberry used in the SureTouch screen. I've tried typing on an iPhone and i...
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Then you are obviously not a power user of Blackberries. I have been using a Blackberry for ages and can tear up the pad when it comes to typing speeds. I can also scream on iPhones and other true touch screens. Haptic feedback is not a complaint from true heavy users. A true veteran does not even look at the keys. We look at the type. If the letter appears that is all the feedback we require.
The Storm's method is severely limiting speed wise. Having a single button for every letter puts a serious physical limit on the speed at which you can type. Just check out all the major reviews and you will see almost all of them agree on this. Check out Phonedog first. He has a good web video out about this very limitation.
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The Storm's method is severely limiting speed wise. Having a single button for every letter puts a serious physical limit on the speed at which you can type. Just check out all the major reviews and you will see almost all of them agree on this. Check out Phonedog first. He has a good web video out about this very limitation.
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people need to stop calling the iphone the most advanced or best device in the world while yes it is one of the best devices its not in my opinion the lack of mms capability is the biggest although not the only factor keeping it from the top spot. currently in my opinion the best phone is the omnia because of samsungs touch wiz technology and the fact that it is running windows mobile also you cant count out the blackberry storm either becuase rim launched their new sdk and the apps will soon be rolling out for the storm which will make it an even better device. and you really cant say too much about the g1 because android is brand new you have to give developers a chance to make the programs for the devices. calling devices mess ups because...
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And you have actually used the Omnia to base this opinion on? Or are youjust guessing?
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ATTENTION ATTENTION please return all storms to ur nearest verizon outlets for a full refund plus $200.00 for wasting all of our time!!
Thx ur friendly neighborhood verizon geek
Thx ur friendly neighborhood verizon geek
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Is there a setting that turns off the annoying light that comes on UNDER my thumbs that makes sure I CAN'T tell which key (gigantic screen key) I am about pressing?
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The "keyboard" on the one I played with in the store was off and the verizon rep could not figure out how to fix it. For example: I had my thumb aimed directly at the "D" but kept clicking the "F." It's like I needed to aim a bit left of the target letter. I assume there is a calibration process like a moving target that you touch the center of so the device will know how my thumbs are built and how I like to aim? I hope so.
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