When will the inevitable happen?
I'm sure Cingular would love to purchase all that spectrum t-mobile did last year at a discounted price...lol
Why don't all of you come on over to cingular and just make them step of the process?
Come over and get better quality, cheaper is not always better, if you want a high quality service and not something second rate come on over and force them to think about selling again...
That way you can all get the phones that you all have been waiting for and actually use all the capabilties that they have with a superior network.
I don't necessarily agree even that T-Mobile is cheaper, because Cingular does have a larger M2M calling community, which saves your minutes.
T-Mobile also now allows roaming on Cingular's 850mhz band, thus, giving you about the same coverage.
http://www.tmobile.com/coverage/CoverageFaq.aspx »
Source: Cingular / T-Mobile
Cingular Wireless today announced it would end its network infrastructure joint venture with T-Mobile USA in New York, California and Nevada. Cingular will sell the California and Nevada network and certain accompanying spectrum to T-Mobile USA for approximately $2.5 billion. Cingular will also receive 10MHz of spectrum from T-Mobile in the New York area. The transaction is contingent on Cingularβs acquisition of AT&T Wireless, and federal approvals. Both Cingular and T-Mobile customers will be unaffected by the deal.
junglemassive said:
troll+tool=jjgreene π
soooo.... jjgreene=trool?
trool is going to be my new favorite word.
junglemassive said:
NICE! I like it. You should copyright that so anytime someone says they have to give you a nickel or something!
Yea maybe a nickel bag you pot smokers! π
jjgreene said:
How long do you think before t-mobile decides to cut its ties with the U.S. version of their company and sell it to Cingular/At&t?
I'm sure Cingular would love to purchase all that spectrum t-mobile did last year at a discounted price...lol
Why don't all of you come on over to cingular and just make them step of the process?
Come over and get better quality, cheaper is not always better, if you want a high quality service and not something second rate come on over and force them to think about selling again...
That way you can all get the phones that you all have been waiting for and actually use all the capabilties that they have with a superior network.
You really need to prac...
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I honestly like t-mobile for their customer service, but customer service only goes so far, compare network coverae with any t-mobile phone vs. any cingy phone and hands down cingy will win 90% or more of the time,
i expected a stronger rebutal form all of you, but all you'll seem to come up with is a cheap name.......you'll are....well you get it
jjgreene said:
Amen bro, i have read to many comments about people jealous that t-mobile wont offer the phone they want, if you are so stuck on whatever you like that t-mobile offer syou then go buy the phone you want.....its GSM for crying out loud, you can get even better phones over seas then what any carrier offers in the U.S.
I honestly like t-mobile for their customer service, but customer service only goes so far, compare network coverae with any t-mobile phone vs. any cingy phone and hands down cingy will win 90% or more of the time,
i expected a stronger rebutal form all of you, but all you'll seem to come up with is a cheap name.......you'll are....well you get it
I don't need to make excu...
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rayen321 said:
TMO USA is a cash cow! TMO Germany wont get rid of a profitable company!
Exactly! I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned this. When people look at T-Mo USA, they only tend to compare it's size to US competitors, and never even consider what it does for DT.
And, I'm sorry, jjgreene, but despite popular misconception, Cingular does NOT have better coverage EVERYWHERE. If I switched, I would lose the great service T-Mo has for my area, and have service that's intermitten at best. My cousins with Cingular don't get any signal at all in most of my relatives homes, whereas I get great signal with T-Mo. It would be a losing situation for me with Cingular.
jjgreene said:
How long do you think before t-mobile decides to cut its ties with the U.S. version of their company and sell it to Cingular/At&t?
I'm sure Cingular would love to purchase all that spectrum t-mobile did last year at a discounted price...lol
Why don't all of you come on over to cingular and just make them step of the process?
Come over and get better quality, cheaper is not always better, if you want a high quality service and not something second rate come on over and force them to think about selling again...
That way you can all get the phones that you all have been waiting for and actually use all the capabilties that they have with a superior network.
Though I find you to be...
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I don't begin to assume that a carrier has another carrier beat in every part of the country, but in generalization they do have a better network
The fact that you stated a "halfway intelligent(give me a break) response...opinions I was laying out there," is argument enough for me. You killed your entire argument by the single word "opinion." I asked for evidence, you offer opinions and while I have no desire to have a "my carrier is better than yours" discussion its not...
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jjgreene said:
π, you my man have fulfilled my sole purpose of writing the post, which was to get a halfway inteligent response to all the oppinions i was laying out there.
I don't begin to assume that a carrier has another carrier beat in every part of the country, but in generalization they do have a better network
To have an intelligent conversation, you may want to first learn proper grammar. "In generalization they do have a better network" is completely incorrect. "In general" is all you need, and using a bigger word did not make you sound smarter, only dumber for using the wrong word.
not that you'd care but i was distracted by a very important phone call during the last part of that post, concerning my girlfriend.
Then again this is a forum, not a published work, so as long as you get your point across that is all that really matters.
jjgreene said:
well thank you for correcting me, it was something i was aware of as i clicked submit.
not that you'd care but i was distracted by a very important phone call during the last part of that post, concerning my girlfriend.
Then again this is a forum, not a published work, so as long as you get your point across that is all that really matters.
Due respect my friendly poster, either you suffer from ADD or simply a lack of common sense.
Again, you are distracting from the focal point of the topic in this case: grammar. We don't care for petty excuses nor we do we a definition of where we are posting. A forum isn't an excuse for a lack of grammar. Show me where it says that forums are a...
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Yes i do highly believe in Cingular, for the simple fact that wherever i am my t-mobile phone does not come close to competing with the quality coverage my cingy phone provides( from Jacksonville, FL on down to Miami, FL, this includes Camp Blandi...
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I never said I STRONGLY believed in T-mobile's service, I merely allowed the assumption that T-mobile works for me. My comments speak for themselves, you are a fool. Please don't try and call me out, you only end up with your tail between your legs and hopefull Cingular will allow you to call mom and cry.
If I need to lower myself to your shameful level than I shall...
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1. If you recall i didn't start the whole battle over the grammar, therefore if you research back through the posts you will find out how we wound up on the subject. (hope this explains your blonde moment, you made yourself look foolish here). (can't resist this one either...it's "per se" not "per say".) However, you are more than excused being that this is a forum.
2. You must not be reading what i said, i said that i'm NOT saying that cingular beats T-mobile everywhere, but through my experience. Based on my experience i have better coverage with my cingular phone....as well as the fact that cingy has more cell sites then any other carrier should (i say should, because i'm sure you'll try to come up with...
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PS arigold ****in schooled you jjgreene.
the fact of the matter is that, no one schooled anybody....
.....although for some reason i'm able to get my point across with fewer words...hmmmm...wonder why that is.
Thanks for the spell check with regards to "per se," my mistake. Sorry mom.
You wouldn't expect anyone to say anything else because its a t-mobile forum. Thank you captain obvious, lets evaluate that. You came into a t-mobile forum and attempted to show up your sorely lacking business acumen. You decided to take it upon yourself to pose the question as to why Cingular will just do the inevitable and buy up T-mobile and when will us as T-mobile customers accept it? Yet you want to criticize those of us who are t-mobile customers and rightfully contradicting your posts with a back and forth here? Did you forget how arguments work? Usually you say one thing, I re...
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and I'M taking MYSELF down to the t-mobile level here.....
A. Cingy has more cell sites = more customers(hmmmmmm funny how that works)
B. Cingy has implemented newer and better technology faster..
C. Cingy gets exclusive rights on all the new phones..before the red headed step-child gets to offer them.
D. the sidekick sucks
E. so does the pebble
F. OJ won(or didn't lose i should say) through a lack of understanding by the jury on the subject of the eveidence presented (i.e. DNA)
G. cingy doesn't have to copy other providers for promotions (FAV Five)
H. Oh and cingy pays me pretty well too....i made 38,000 while being a full-time student last year....
P.S. you are rig...
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Though I will rebut a few things. The sidekick sucks I give you that, but so does the c417, the L7, the rokr(GREAT exclusive) and oh I don't know about a half dozen other phones Cingular provides.
OJ won because his lawyers were able to prove beyond a "reasonable doubt." DNA was a slim portion o...
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Dont' get me wrong....replying to these fun arguments makes my day go by a whole lot faster during the dead hours.......
Yeah i've heard verizon pays better, i i just don't want to hear people complaing to me everyday about why don't we offer rollover and why can't i do what i want with the bluetooth link in my phone.....
Unlimited text package questions i can handle...(if 3000 isn't enough for you go to t-mobile....)i've only met one person that 3,000 messages won't suffice.
Yeah my Commission is nice from cingular, it's nice only having to work about 20-25 hours a week to pay bills and have time to enjoy my weekend, whether i'm at the movies, chillin' infront of my DLP, playing my wi...
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As for the past...my friend, you should learn: "You can't know where you are going until you know where you have been." Though I can't remember who is responsible for that statement, you should think about it for a while.
Have fun doing what you do. I agree with you on many portions of high speed and it annoys me to no end that T-mobile has delayed such a service. Personally while Cingular isn't my company of choice I can understand why many choose them and in some areas the...
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2. I understand the whole past thing, there are certain things that you need to know, and when you want to predict the future you have to look at past outcomes, but that doesn't mean you have to know every bit of history.
3. you make 2(text packages..lol)(the other being my GF, i redo her media bundle evrery month b/c the first month is unl when you sign up for a bundle with Cingular.)
well take care, its been fun.
Well, since T-Mobile hasn't merged every single telecommunications company together in the past 4 years we just didn't have the resources (spectrum, money) for that. T-Mobile's focus has been on expanding their business on their own without the help of every other co...
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And somehow you think that stirring the chit is a fun, cool and honorable thing to do.
If you don't have enough to do at your job maybe you should think about changing professions. The job you have is evidently not providing you with enough to do during work hours. Of course it could just be that you're goldbricking and that you could be doing something useful, but just can't be bothered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldbricking »
too bad i'm in a cell phone business, and i use this too gain knowledge that i can share with the my everyday customers....
Thank you for your response i really appreciate it....
Have a wonderful day. π
jjgreene said:
goldbricking, i like that. π
too bad i'm in a cell phone business, and i use this too gain knowledge that i can share with the my everyday customers....
Thank you for your response i really appreciate it....
Have a wonderful day. π
Evidently your "business" is that of cutting down other companies just because you work for another.
I know this may be hard to believe since you are the "expert" of such things, but many people are very satisfied with their "sub standard" service they get from T-Mobile. You also may have a hard time understanding that cingular doesn't work well for everyone and that some people have major problems with them. Some people believe it or not ...
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do you not see where i had admitted to that in other posts?
i was simply stating that as a whole one is better than the other.
I had Cingular since they were Ameritech here (Cincinnati, OH). I loved Cingular with a passion until that AT&T Wireless merger years ago. That's when things went downhill with coverage, billing AND customer service. I jumped ship and went to Cincinnati Bell which was 100x entirely worse than Cingular. I then went to T-Mobile and been happier since. I do alot of traveling and NEVER had a problem (except in Celina, OH and the far eastside of Cincinnati.) YOu know how many dropped calls I've had with T-Moble for the 8 or so months I've been with them? 2. Know how many dropped calls I had with cingular on a monthly basis? well over 20.
So I'd have to agree, in my in...
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Oh and for all you T-Mo is better than Cingy people: Holy crap your dumb.
Hombre07 said:
I didn't bother to read through every reply, but uh, it will happen before the year is out. My district came by the other day and I mentioned the Alltel buyout from Verizon. I asked when we were picking up T-Mo and all he could do was smirk and say before next year. I'm willing to bet its already in the works. Just no official announcement.
Oh and for all you T-Mo is better than Cingy people: Holy crap your dumb.
Wow, just wow. I thought jjgreenes original post was bad. You want to call us dumb? I will spank every single sentence you just wrote.
Verizon has zero intention of purchasing T-mobile, they would never pick up an entire gsm network with total nationwide conversion. Be sensi...
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arigold said:...Hombre07 said:
I didn't bother to read through every reply, but uh, it will happen before the year is out. My district came by the other day and I mentioned the Alltel buyout from Verizon. I asked when we were picking up T-Mo and all he could do was smirk and say before next year. I'm willing to bet its already in the works. Just no official announcement.
Oh and for all you T-Mo is better than Cingy people: Holy crap your dumb.
Wow, just wow. I thought jjgreenes original post was bad. You want to call us dumb? I will spank every single sentence you just wrote.
Verizon has zero intention of purchasing T-mobile, they would never pick up an entire gsm network
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Do you even know what echelon means?
Common sense has absolutely nothing to do with writing skills. Be careful with those big words before you choke on them.
Oh, and you must be absolutely right that a business course in college can teach me how the real world works. Good luck with that.
By the way there smarty, you used several pointless relations there. Your cousins brother would also be your cousin. His girlfriends sister ould have the same mother as her sister. Her moms aunt would also be her aunt. Have fun with that though. Sounds like you're just a little inbred...
Common sense has everything to do with writing skills and everyday tasks. As for my choking on the big words, you are laughable my friend. While I applaud you for being able to break down my analogy that was just the point. I assume you need clarification that it was wrote with the absolute intention of being able to be deciphered.
Keep consideration for that business course, I think you and jjgreene need to take the class together. You can...
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I'm using two cups and a string and I have more freedom with ringtones than Verizon. π€£ π€£ π€£ π€£
A ringtone (like most music) is a copyright protected type of media. Because VZW chooses to enforce those copyrights and charge for ringtone purchases (and make revenue as well) and folks griping because they can't beam or b/t a tone to their friend is crazy. The artist gets royalties from the purchases...kinda how the whole music industry works. Now enter "Limewire" or other file sharing places and the artists lose out on royalties.
Personally, I do buy a couple of ringtones for my VZW handset, but also get tones elsewhere. But after all is said and done, the phone is just a phone, IMHO. I use it as a communication device, a tool to use. If it onl...
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carullo said:
I'm on Verizon and it beats Cingular on all levels.
I think my wife(vzw customer) would have disagreed with you on this statement the other night. We were down town Tacoma Washington, her phone had no service what so ever where as my Cingular device was rockin full bars. I will venture to say that VZW has its merit as do all the other wireless carriers but all levels is definitely pushing it.
Holy crap you're dumb.
If you wish to pretend to be superior, please show it by your actions!
not2brite said:
Holy crap you're dumb.
coming from someone who names themselves
"not2brite"
Sorry dude, I had to. π
Derek0550 said:
not2brite...drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr π€€ π€€ π€£ π€£ π€£ π€£
If *you're* (not your) going to cuss someone out at least learn basic spelling and try to learn that this is not a text message it is real life!
Derek0550 said:...
hey dumb*** this is a messege board... who cares...get the mouse out of your arse (i intentionally spell that wrong if you didnt notice)... how exactly do you spell drrrrrrrrrrrrrr correctly?????? what did i spell wrong???? hahahaaha your the one who is dumb...drrrrrrrrr... you and not2brite must be bloodbrothers....hahahahhahahh π€£ π€£ π€£ π€£ π€£ dont take this personal its just a messege board not real life and if you have a problem with how i type then ill just keep typing like this...doesn't mean that someone is dumb if they type differently then you and for your information nobody is getting graded for how they are typing...fuzzball i thought you were smarter then this....what a was
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The ability to type accurately or inaccurately is irrelevant when weighed against the ridiculous abuse of valuable time wasted reading your post. Your contribution was zero yet your effort was grand. Congratulations, you are a waste.
craptacularwireless said:
Dude, your typing gives me a headache. I sincerely hope your communication skills in person are much better than they are on here. If your skills on here are any indication of how you talk to your customers, then it will only be a matter a time before they fire you.
Come on now, his typing skills resemble something between a third grader and a special needs child.
My typing has nothing to do with how i perform at my work. i surpass all my qualiy scores. Back off you little b*tch.
carullo said:
lilfuzzbear=telekom............A total jerk on HowardForums
Boohoo, I'm going to tell my mommy that you were mean to me. π’
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If you behave like a jackΓΒ₯ss you'll be treated like one. Grow up. You're not in junior high school any longer.
arigold said:
A theme of this thread seems to be the Cingular/Verizon fanboy's showing off their maturity. Its really quite something, typing out "drrrrrrrrrrrrr." You have to wonder about a kid who is willing to type that.
π€£ As a Cingular Fanboy myself this stings but its too funny to be truly offended.
Derek0550 said:
I am the one who typed it..so what.. Arigold...you are waay too serious and you need to smoke a fat blunt foo..relax...look up the word JOKE and tell me what that means because obviously you don't have any humor. man i thought everyone on this board was a bunch of nerds and geeks...where is your humor....not2brite get it..drrr...yea yea...nevermind but go buy some chronic and then come'on this board and bump some Bob Marley...hahahh π
Here is the joke: thats your definition of "calling someone out?" NOW thats funny. Thanks for the laugh, you aided my sense of humor today.
Next time you want to start a battle of wits, start by being an "armed" opponent.
so anyways why does it bother you that i dont type perfectly?? it mus b really getin two u dat i aint typin da right way yo. i hope that hurts you where it counts..hahahahahahahahah-whoops i spelled that wrong, my bad. o dam now that i did dat she/he must think that i work at a fast food restraunt. π³
Who the heck says that anybody on this messege board or any other messge board on the internet, has to type OH SO perfectly like you Arigold? the king/queen(whatever you are or claim to be) of all grammer. Who just so happens, to bust on every single person that posts on this website. if you you ...
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Derek0550 said:...
First off i dont flip burgers i work for tmobile, so if you call working for tmobile flipping burgers, then you really are on a crazy acid trip.
so anyways why does it bother you that i dont type perfectly?? it mus b really getin two u dat i aint typin da right way yo. i hope that hurts you where it counts..hahahahahahahahah-whoops i spelled that wrong, my bad. o dam now that i did dat she/he must think that i work at a fast food restraunt. π³
Who the heck says that anybody on this messege board or any other messge board on the internet, has to type OH SO perfectly like you Arigold? the king/queen(whatever you are or claim to be) of all grammer. Who just so happens, to bust on every single person tha
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UHHH, yea you do! You just contradicted your self. Read all your gripping posts that you oh so kindly replied back to with. And plus, you said that i can't spell, dont know how to use grammer correctly(when this is a FREAKIN messege board where there is no grades, no grammer critics except FOR YOU ARIGOLD who cares, i think you and fuzzball are the only ones who care)so because "i dont know how to use grammer" and so on, you judge ME (when you don't even know me) and say that i am a low life scum that works at a fast food restraunt. Now tell me that if someone said that to you, that you wouldn't be mad? I know you would because you are human and you...
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I enjoy your thrill with the caps lock key....it is REALLY getting your point across. Anyone with an IQ higher than the number of errors in your last post will clearly see who is "winning" this "contest" of wits.
Whats even more entertaining is how my post turns into an overview of the sociological state of American society. I'm not even going to go there, I could type up a dissertation that would include words you couldn't spell much less write.
I will NEVER accept the way you type, the way you speak, the way you write or anything else you do. So keep wasting your "valued" time responding to me, I'...
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you are so stuck up. I bet when you were a little girl/boy and you didnt get your way you screamed until you got your way. Try me with your words. You need to stop judgeing me. YOU DONT KNOW ME. thats all you can do is critisize and judge people. that is your defence and your whole game. Your figured out. I am not dumb person. just bc i dont take the time to edit my post(which is all it is) doenst mean that i am...
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Nobody wants to handle you. I could buy and sell you without moving from this chair.
Really??? go right ahead and do that fool.. sell me!?!...what a moron. Im not even a saleman...im a rep fool.
You are a professional at microsoft office thats all you are good at.. spell check. dam look at all my mistakes..hahahahaha just like Styles from the LOX "..I dont give a F who you are, so F who you ARE" I am a project of my enviroment and i speak how i want and not even the GREAAAT ARIGOLD will influence how i speak/act/type. IM not jjgreene, you can't punk me like you did to him(good job wit that was funny)
(sorry jj for dragging your name into this.)
"Little boy, I own everything about you."
Looks like im getting to you, one thing about debateing, don't sh...
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You are a salesman. Calling yourself a Retail Sales Rep doesn't remove the fact that you sell. Hence salesman. Again showing your mastery of the English language.
Don't lecture me on debating skills little boy, you are showing just how truly sad you are.
I don't need to punk you little boy, you are making that happen all by yourself. Egging you on is just too fun. You seem to think you have this adverse effect on me by using your 12 iq points. You need to work harder, writer bet...
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you're both gigantic tools for having a cyclical debate about nothing. π
yea exactly this is just a forum, so who cares about grammer and spelling, nobody has the time or even thinks about editing their own post. As long as you get your point across and other people know what you are saying. That is my point with all this mayhem. π
Hombre07 said:Being dumb is for the people believing that Tmobile and Sprint being eaten up by At&t and Verizon respectively is healthy for the cell phone industry.
Oh and for all you T-Mo is better than Cingy people: Holy crap your dumb.
jjgreene said:Consider the possibility that a large number of us are quite happy with Tmobile with its call quality and coverage. Sure it may not cover as much real estate as Cingular but, and its been said dozens of times before, you use what works for you. It was quite shallow of...
Why don't all of you come on over to cingular and just make them step of the process?
Come over and get better quality, cheaper is not always better, if you want a high quality service and not something second rate come on over and force them to think about selling again...
That way you can all get the phones that you all have been waiting for and actually use all the capabilties that they have with a superior network.
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jjgreene said:Well that's certainly true in the case of the Iphone being exclusive to Cingular/At&t only. Contrary to my earlier post, there are people out there planning to jump ship to get their hands on the latest Apple phone device. The grumblings aren't limited to Tmobile users however as Sprint and Verizon are going to lose some customers to the iphone as well. Some Verizon users are especially taking this hard.
the phone response was thrown in there at the last minute, (even though phone selcetion isn't the end all in decision making) if you look through the t-mobile forum you will see endless phone complaints on the phones t-mobile carries, and even jealousy towards cingular's.
-3G UMTS/HSDPA
-a resonable price tag
jjgreene said:
true, the same gripe is heard everywhere, although the iphone is pretty cool, ot lacks two things:
-3G UMTS/HSDPA
-a resonable price tag
Jobs said that this will not be the end of it. An HSDPA version was not rolled out since the whole cingulat&t network does not have HSDPA.
jjgreene said:
the phone response was thrown in there at the last minute, (even though phone selcetion isn't the end all in decision making) if you look through the t-mobile forum you will see endless phone complaints on the phones t-mobile carries, and even jealousy towards cingular's.
Here we go again. Lets do some perusing through the Cingular forums and count the number of times people complain about various Cingular services, especially customer service. Customers with Cingular tend to be among the least happy with their customer service experience and that reflects quite often on these forums.
I think it fair to say that jealousy exists on all sides.
As for the issue, I carry both at&t and T-mobile and find good and bad with both. For example, T-mobile international rates are by and large more affordable. Yet, in my home town, T-mobile coverage is a far cry from at&t and Verizon. As far as phone...
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1. DT will never sell their most profitable asset
2. FCC/doj will never approve them especially without heavy divestitures
a. Remember the AT&T/Cingular wireless merger?
i. Well, there will billion worth of assets lost because of the divestitures
It will not happen because it is not economically friendly. If it were to happen, they would probably want to buy companies like Alltel, USC and the like. I do not think they should even sell, DT that is, because many people are liking them and they would get more popular when they start their HSDPA/HSUPA services as well as their UMA products. I think now is the time not to sell a company like T-MOBIL...
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