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Verizon moving away from CDMA

wfine81

Sep 20, 2007, 1:23 PM
http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20 ... »

Verizon Wireless to join Vodafone in upgrade to LTE
CDMA to lose major backer

By Kelly Hill

Story posted: September 20, 2007 - 1:32 pm EDT

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Verizon Wireless and Vodafone Group plc will both use Long Term Evolution technology as the 4G evolution path for their respective networks, according to remarks by company executives this week.

Arun Sarin, CEO of Vodafone, and Verizon Communications Inc. chairman and CEO Ivan Seidenberg, spoke about the techn...
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Yean

Sep 20, 2007, 1:46 PM
WOW!! 😳 Thanks for the info. This is huge.
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nextel18

Sep 20, 2007, 1:58 PM
It is huge, but it will be around 5 years until this actually is turned on. About time that Verizon announced their 4G plans. Problem is, it is a long way away.
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nextel18

Sep 20, 2007, 1:57 PM
They both mentioned this at the Goldman Sachs conference. What wfine81 and the article forgot to mention was that it will be in about 5 years till this actually becomes a reality and commercialized.
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wfine81

Sep 20, 2007, 2:24 PM
The article states in about 3-4 years, so yes, time was mentioned.
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nextel18

Sep 20, 2007, 3:08 PM
Oh ok I did not see it but thanks for pointing it out. timeframe will be interesting so not sure, if it will be actually in 10 or 11 but I think it will be out in 12 and 13.
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turbo63

Sep 20, 2007, 2:00 PM
From what I understand LTE is not really CDMA or GSM, but is a group set to decide the new standard for 4G.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution »

Sounds like we should know something soon on the spec's however.
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sangyup81

Sep 20, 2007, 2:46 PM
yeah, no more CDMA or TDMA-based (GSM) systems

OFDMA is the future!
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nextel18

Sep 20, 2007, 3:10 PM
Yea it uses OFDM/A and MIMO.
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sangyup81

Sep 20, 2007, 2:46 PM
Scary thought isn't it?
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bigredslave

Sep 20, 2007, 3:16 PM
The article also mentioned investment into WiMax. Cell phones... their not just for talking.
Wonder when we'll get to use them like credit card like they do over in Korea?
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nextel18

Sep 20, 2007, 3:21 PM
Those are in the works. It is time for data to be talking.
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LordObento

Sep 20, 2007, 5:06 PM
Finally, Some Network Convergence. There was getting to be too many competing technology out there. Atleast UMB will probably be crossed off the list and LTE and Wimax replace the current tech. Just think... GSM,CDMA,IDEN will all go the way of analog someday
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SystemShock

Sep 20, 2007, 5:21 PM
The prob is, there'll still be network divide... between WiMax and LTE, right?

So even when all major networks hit 4G, everyone won't be able roam off of everyone. Unless hybrid LTE/WiMax phones become all the rage?
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LordObento

Sep 20, 2007, 5:36 PM
why not, there is a GSM/Wifi phone using UMA
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nextel18

Sep 20, 2007, 5:38 PM
Well whenever you combine radios and components together there will always pose major problems.
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nextel18

Sep 20, 2007, 5:37 PM
It depends what they choose for the technology but chances there will not be many roaming deals. existing networks would obviously be with dual mode phones. CDMA/Wimax. CDMA/LTE. Etc.
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nextel18

Sep 20, 2007, 5:36 PM
They all will not go away because they still need to use their current operations but shortly(probably in a few years) they might start to diminish the ability of using those networks in favor of the 4g ones especially if there is a reason to.

UMB actually is better than LTE, but it should be interesting. LTE, HSPA, and Wimax. if I was Verizon, I would have picked UMB.
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bigdaddyjay

Sep 20, 2007, 7:45 PM
nextel18 said:
They all will not go away because they still need to use their current operations but shortly(probably in a few years) they might start to diminish the ability of using those networks in favor of the 4g ones especially if there is a reason to.

UMB actually is better than LTE, but it should be interesting. LTE, HSPA, and Wimax. if I was Verizon, I would have picked UMB.


Thank god you are not Verizon, they have done perfectly fine without your opinions 🤣
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nextel18

Sep 20, 2007, 7:50 PM
Well time will tell. they are not doing that well when it comes to data APRU with their caps. Nevertheless, with my opinions I am making tons of money. They can do what they want as long as the ROIC is there, the cash flows are there, and the dividend continues to remain high.
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LordObento

Sep 20, 2007, 9:36 PM
I would have thought UMB to be a clear choice too but maybe Verizon is like us... sick of getting phones last or not at all. If they go to LTE or Wimax it would be a world standard. UMB would be another generation of CDMA with CDMA phone and the inability to use them abroad.
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nextel18

Sep 21, 2007, 8:30 AM
Well UMB does use some CDMA infrastructure but it uses OFDM/A. UMB is easier and better on paper than LTE.
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wombough

Sep 20, 2007, 11:14 PM
CDMA will not go away from the rest of the world for a long time. As I pointed out in my other post it is in over 100 countries and 200 providers. And with that many countires its in and that many providers you can roam quite a bit now with a cdma phone. ANd they are increasing all the time. It took them this long to move to CDMA it will take them even longer to move to another network!
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trucksmoveamerica

Sep 21, 2007, 7:38 AM
I am not up and up on this stuff. From what I am reading this LTE is a different form then CDMA.

So if I am understanding this correct, we will no longer be able to roam on any CDMA carriers. For a lot of the people living in the midwest, if this is the case, we will be looking for a new carrier. So in the midwest switching to LTE would be a back step.
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wombough

Sep 21, 2007, 7:41 AM
its WCDMA and it won't happen until 2015. All the other carriers will be on something other then cdma at this time also! Sprint Wimax and alltel won't be around most likely.
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nextel18

Sep 21, 2007, 8:50 AM
Yes and no. LTE can use the CDMA infrastructure but does not really rely on them for transmission that much or even at all. LTE uses OFDM/A and MIMO.

LTE in my mind was a bad decision.
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