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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:04 PM
As I said I don't promote sprint or verizon. I think its about choice. However I am tired of lies. Just in a post today were I stated sprint has more of a national footprint then verizon. And someone said no way in hell. Here is a list of states verizon is almsot non existant, AL, MS, Ak, MO, WI, NM, NE,KS, OK,TX. I count 10 states there. Check it out for yourself before you start pulling crap out of you know were. Verizon can not be beat in there native areas. And they are expanding rapidly, and I am not comparing whos network is better. Sprint in all those states I listed go from border to border.

Sprint:
http://coverage.sprintpcs.com/IMPACT.jsp?mapcity=Abb ... »...
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ArmySF

Dec 12, 2006, 8:09 PM
I don't give any weight to any coverage maps its about as worthwhile as Consumer Reports.

Plus Sprint lies I wouldn't trust anything they have in print.
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:14 PM
oh great how did I know that response was coming. Nevermind. When it suits you to say they are only available on city's and interstates it good. But when they have all interstates and city's covered in a state verizon does not service then its not.
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:16 PM
By the way street level maps are more accurate then the other. As it is very easy to get them for false advertising since its well Street level. So I believe sprint's and tmobile's map.
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ArmySF

Dec 12, 2006, 8:16 PM
🤣 🤣 🤣 You're to easy wombough
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djatvzw

Dec 12, 2006, 8:15 PM
my eyes may be deceiving me but was tx in that list? sprint is showing more coverage than vzw? that is far from true i'm afraid. 😉
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ArmySF

Dec 12, 2006, 8:19 PM
He just desperately wants to be right, he tries to be very diplomatic but really is a hard core sprint fanboy and wants us all to know Sprint really has the most coverage!
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:21 PM
you got me figured. If I lived in NJ were I am from I would have verizon. As I said they can't be beat there network is reliable. Neither is better in my opinion. But before you say I am wrong look at the damn map. I love you all have your mind made up as no way this can't be true!
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ArmySF

Dec 12, 2006, 8:23 PM
OK OK but the damn verizon link doesn't work
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:23 PM
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ArmySF

Dec 12, 2006, 8:26 PM
Its say its unavailable on my end, even when I go to the homepage I cant find the entire map of the US just a coverage locator
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:27 PM
you have to pan out to number 3 and over to tx
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ArmySF

Dec 12, 2006, 8:31 PM
OK i peeped it is shows most of Texas as Extended Digital
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:33 PM
right as I said in my last post. I was just comparing their networks that is all. Both companies phones will work all over. They all have the same roaming partners just about!
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ArmySF

Dec 12, 2006, 8:35 PM
cool cool 🙂
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:36 PM
trust me I would probable have verizon if I didn't get what I get from sprint. I have had them for 6 yrs now and on a old plan that would cost me close to 200 with them now or verizon. I pay 85 a month!!
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djatvzw

Dec 12, 2006, 8:36 PM
k i understand what ya mean. yeah some people get very defensive for some reason 🤣
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:38 PM
Like I say I don't care who you have. But thats like someone with tmobile covers NC. Don't blindly say something just because verizon is great and they must have coverage everywhere!
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schlittertex

Dec 13, 2006, 8:45 AM
Well I wouldn't say all over in Texas, I don't get service at my deer lease, nor did I with my LG 8300 in New Braunfels, which if you have never been to Texas, its only 20 minutes away from San Antonio, North East on the way to Austin.
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schlittertex

Dec 13, 2006, 8:47 AM
Sorry I should say I didn't get service, because I ported my number.
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djatvzw

Dec 12, 2006, 8:31 PM
i see what you are saying. ok well thats fine if you take out what the plan actually covers.
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:33 PM
your right with all the roaming with both they cover the same. I am talking just their own networks. Like I said sprint and verizon will work anywhere just about. BUt earlier I said sprint has a bigger "footprint nationally" and I was told I was stupid. They both roam with each other and alltel. SO they have about the same roaming coverage all together!
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:19 PM
did you even look at the map??? I think not. VZW has nothing west of whichita falls, Sprint has the whole state covered!! Please look!!
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djatvzw

Dec 12, 2006, 8:25 PM
i did look at the map dude. are we counting analog cause that really doesnt count since most phones are all digital.
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:26 PM
no sprint doesn't have analog!!! You need to uncheck sprint roaming and click just the verizon wireless network not the America choice!!
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djatvzw

Dec 12, 2006, 8:33 PM
the map shows analog. if they dont have it why is it on the map?
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:34 PM
sprint? You have to click the analog box and make sure its off along with the digital box!
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 8:35 PM
They do have analog roaming!!!
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barryefau

Dec 12, 2006, 10:18 PM
http://www.verizonwireless.com/images_b2c/maps/natio ... »

the orange is what is vzw's actual owned network. Look at WY, CA, ID, MT, ND, SD, NM, AZ, CO, TN, FL, NV, UT, NY, PA, OH, IA, IL, IN, MI, AL, GA, NC, SC, ... I'm seeing a lot more coverage there with VZW than sprint..

It's not your fault however, Sprints map has the city names so HUGE covering the whole map to make up for the lack of coverage. 🤣
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 10:43 PM
I said footprint. I am not arguing that verizon covers more area in the areas they do cover.
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maverick96

Dec 12, 2006, 10:53 PM
Yes and if you would have paid attention to barryefau's last post and clicked on his link it shows actual verizon owned coverage not roaming partners. The orange is Verizon owned and there foot print is larger than sprints. So what are you getting at?
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 10:55 PM
no its not they offer hardly no coverage in the states a listed and sprint does.
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maverick96

Dec 12, 2006, 10:56 PM
and the states he listed have way more coverage than sprint but as a whole verizon's is larger.
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barryefau

Dec 12, 2006, 11:05 PM
Footprint and Coverage are one in the same. Both Sprint and VZW have a national footprint, Vzw has a larger national footprint than Sprint. With roaming agreements both companies cover the US well.

National VZW Coverage Map, with Roaming
http://www.verizonwireless.com/images_b2c/maps/natio ... »

National Sprint Coverage Map, with Roaming
http://www.sprintpcs.com/common/popups/pop-analogRoa ... »

Hope that clears it up! 🙂 thanks
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 11:08 PM
no when they don't offer service in 10 states I don't call that a foot print! But its your story tell it how you want!
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barryefau

Dec 12, 2006, 11:10 PM
Then according to you and Sprints map, Sprint doesn't offer service in 50 states.. likewise, it's your story.
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wombough

Dec 12, 2006, 11:13 PM
what are you talking about if thats the case how do they sell service. That would mean they have no network! And its not my story its in black and white!
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barryefau

Dec 12, 2006, 11:20 PM
I'm not sure how to make it more simple for you..

vzw covers more pops than sprint.. vzw has native coverage in 49 Of our 50 states. The only state vzw does not have native coverage in is Alaska. The only State vzw can't offer npa-xxx is Alaksa. Are you picking up what I'm putting down home slice.. lol, oh jk. Anyway, thanks for playing.

Go ahead and study the layers and protocols for x.25, ATM, Frame Relay and DACS.. get back with me on that one b4 you answer.
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schlittertex

Dec 13, 2006, 8:54 AM
I don't know about Sprints coverage because I have never had them, but for Texas, on the verizon map, there are parts that are not covered that say they are covered.
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barryefau

Dec 13, 2006, 2:58 PM
there is coverage, it's just analog, and most people these days have all digital phones.
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schlittertex

Dec 13, 2006, 4:04 PM
Well the area that I was talking about in question, The New Braunfels area, which is outside of San Antonio, is shown to be Digital and not Analog.
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schlittertex

Dec 13, 2006, 8:42 AM
That is very true about Texas, though when I said that earlier when I started writing on this forum in regards to Techs that couldn't get service on the King Ranch, people laughed and said because its the King Ranch...news flash people, Texas has more untouched earth then it does touched. I mean as soon as you leave Houston in any direction you are going to run into Ranches, or pieces of property that have cows on them, the cliche is pretty true, and in between we have managed to construct a pretty nice sized state economy...

I have a point to this I swear lol...

My point is that no matter if you are 50 miles outside of Houston, or 250 miles outside of Houston, you are in the woods or in the middle of a pasture, you need service. Wha...
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adilus

Dec 13, 2006, 10:37 AM
I hear ya about the woods but I will say this and this will apply for any carrier. Towers go up where people are. The more people the more towers. When you are out on the ranch, there are very few people instead its just cows and cows are food that are still alive and kicking.

I run into the same thing in Arizona. There is service along the highways and in the cities but nowhere else. Like when I go out to Goodyear national park, there is only amps and very light digital service. The same is said when we go tubing down the Salt. No people, no service. The same is said up at the Grand Canyon and Four Points.

If I remember correctly each tower has an elliptical footproont of about 8^2/1.75 radia miles, with each tower costing bet...
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schlittertex

Dec 13, 2006, 10:46 AM
Yeah, from time to time a CB helps as well, and your right it would be nice to have 95% coverage, but we just have to deal with what we can and just use a service that doest the best for you.

With all this talk about Cows, I am going to have some BBQ.

And yes, people aren't going to invest money in something with a low return due to lack of use, so you make a very simple and good point, which should prove to some fanboys of any carrier (and I am not including you in this category) that you are not going to get coverage everywhere and a carrier is going to have its holes.
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cilvzwagent

Dec 13, 2006, 12:19 PM
That is the most intelligent and constructive thing you have ever said on here Schlittertex! You still annoy me, but not near as much now! 😁
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vzwinagent

Dec 13, 2006, 11:51 AM
I don't know what you call border to border. I just see a bunch of bright green interstates. If you don't live near an interstate Sprint won't do ya much good.
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jrfdsf

Dec 13, 2006, 12:22 PM
How does it feel now that you're the one getting hammered when all you're doing is telling the truth? I also noticed the folks responding to your post quoting Consumer Reports, the same magazine that has rated Verizon as the most reliable cellular carrier the last several years.

No, you're NOT being a fanboy or quoting anything false. And you're being, I think fair and balanced. Anyone out there who thinks this person is some kind of Sprint fanboy should read some of his/her tough resonses to my posts on Verizon charging to much. Although I obviously disagreed with you I believe you tried to be fair toward Verizon and present what you thought were points I hadn't considered.

Now, back to my original point I was making in MY posts. Ver...
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adilus

Dec 13, 2006, 1:29 PM
I remember considering Sprint a couple of years back and when I checked out their coverage it was really lacking.

I found a gif of it here:

http://www.sctcweb.com/images/usMap_big.gif »

Now, only 2-3 years later, this is their coverage:

http://www1.sprintpcs.com/media/Assets/Maps/U.S.cove ... »

As you can all see the "Dark Green" is still their, but now there is this nice light green too.

So whats the deal? Whats the difference because when I was in the Sprint store at the time, they told me the light green, which they did have at the time, but had to pay more for, was where Sprint was piggy backing on VZW's network.

Whats the deal?
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djatvzw

Dec 13, 2006, 2:49 PM
how in the hell did this thread get to talking about prices and vzw not changing with the times AGAIN!!!! look jrfdsf give it up. your point is not getting made just because you keep bringing it up in every post you make. you said your peace now leave it alone. damn! get back to topic please. this sh#t is ridiculous.
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schlittertex

Dec 13, 2006, 4:08 PM
The person was using it as an example as in to show that he isn't in cohorts with the other person...yes he may have used it before, but in this last statement it was in reference to something else.
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New_2_T-Mobile

Dec 21, 2006, 4:42 PM
who cares about footprints as long as your service works where you live and travel!
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