Verizon and Sprint
it ouwld be nice but i think it would be a huge diadvantage to verizon.
what does sprint have to offer? nothing that we don't already have. we have a far superior network. if you really look at their coverage map, they practically live off of analog roaming. just my oppinion
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what does sprint have to offer? nothing that we don't already have. we have a far superior network. if you really look at their coverage map, they practically live off of analog roaming. just my oppinion
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well.. this wouldnt happen though.. ftc, fcc wont allow it. plus if they did the divestitures would outweigh any benefits.
sprint has plenty of things that could interest investors.. highiest arpu, spectrum positions and great network with a lot of capacity, and subscribers.
sprint has plenty of things that could interest investors.. highiest arpu, spectrum positions and great network with a lot of capacity, and subscribers.
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Take a look at Verizons Enhanced Network vs Sprints entire network. Enough been said.
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this will never happen.. FTC and FCC will never allow such a merger without A LOT of divestitures and it wouldnt be a good idea to merge.
verizon doesnt need sprint to dethrone cingular becuase if the numbers of subscriber growth per quarter stands currently, verizon will pass cingular for that top number 1 spot at the end of 2006.
verizon doesnt need sprint to dethrone cingular becuase if the numbers of subscriber growth per quarter stands currently, verizon will pass cingular for that top number 1 spot at the end of 2006.
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knvinvest said:
Any chance these two will hook up in the future to dethrone Cingular???
Probably none bro, due to antitrust issues. 'sides, didn't Sprint already hook up wit' Nextel?
But Cingular's probably gonna get 'dethroned' anyway. Verizon's only 3 mil behind 'em in total customers, an' is beating Cing in customer adds at a pace of about 1 million per quarter.
So, a lotta people expect Verizon to pass Cingular in total customer count in the next year, re-takin' the #1 spot. Without any help from Sprint whatsoevah.
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Verizon probably wouldn't want Sprint because of the Nextel network. If Verizon were to acquire Sprint, they would sell off Nextel immediately. They don't want to spend extra money to convert Nextel towers to CDMA. Plus like everyone else mentioned, they would have to divest a number of markets, including Chicago, Los Angeles, New York since they're PCS only markets, and Verizon already has PCS licenses for those markets. They wouyld be able to expand further into Michigan where Verizon doesn't already have coverage, including Benton Harbor & Niles areas, around South Bend Indiana. In Wisconsin, they would be able to increase their Wisconsin presence, but would likely have to divest Milwaukee & maybe Madison. Minneapolis might be dives...
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yea verizon and alltel would make most sense, however, there will be divestitures too. i dont think verizon should even buy anyone out, becuase they are doing so well. it might just hurt them instead of helping them especially when they are very close to going over the cap. any buyouts from sprint or verizon would be forced to make divestitures.
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lol..
"Verizon probably wouldn't want Sprint because of the Nextel network."
this isnt a sound statement. nextel actually has a very good network with a lot of spectrum especially in the 800, 1.9ghz and 2.5ghz bands. so to say that is a bad thing. plus they have the highiest metrics (the very important ones) in the industry.
"If Verizon were to acquire Sprint, they would sell off Nextel immediately. "
this wouldnt happen.. sprint and a verizon merger would never happen and it wouldnt pass the regulatory bodies without major divestitures.
actualy, vodafone could go after sprint. it would be a powerful domestic and international force.
"Verizon probably wouldn't want Sprint because of the Nextel network."
this isnt a sound statement. nextel actually has a very good network with a lot of spectrum especially in the 800, 1.9ghz and 2.5ghz bands. so to say that is a bad thing. plus they have the highiest metrics (the very important ones) in the industry.
"If Verizon were to acquire Sprint, they would sell off Nextel immediately. "
this wouldnt happen.. sprint and a verizon merger would never happen and it wouldnt pass the regulatory bodies without major divestitures.
actualy, vodafone could go after sprint. it would be a powerful domestic and international force.
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Vodaphone wants a GSM network and not a CDMA network. Vodaphone tried to put a bid in for AT&T Wireless, but Cingular outbidded them so they could get bigger. As for VZW, they weren't interested in AT&T Wireless because it was TDMA/GSM and don't want to spend money to convert the towers to CDMA, and run the risk of a lawsuit because they breached contracts when they cut off service to those with TDMA or GSM service. VZW already dealt with a lawsuit when they acquired carriers in the late 90's that were TDMA and converted all towers to CDMA, like Primeco (except for Chicago & NW Indiana Primeco users, who are now USCC customers), and users were without service. VZW is only interested in acquiring carriers that are already CDMA. That way,...
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I know that Sprint will never be bought out by Vzw because they are so much in debt. But I can tell you one thing that will happen sooner then later... direct connect will be cross carrier. Soon, very soon!!!
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dave73 said:
And Vodaphone isn't interested in Sprint as they want a GSM network.
Wait, why would Voda phone want a gsm network?
Verizon is owned by Verizon Comunications AND Vodaphone (http://aboutus.vzw.com/aboutusoverview.html)
that would be like competing against themselves?
does that make any sense or am i just crazy?
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VZW429 said:dave73 said:
And Vodaphone isn't interested in Sprint as they want a GSM network.
Wait, why would Voda phone want a gsm network?
Verizon is owned by Verizon Comunications AND Vodaphone (http://aboutus.vzw.com/aboutusoverview.html)
that would be like competing against themselves?
does that make any sense or am i just crazy?
Supposedly, Vodafone wants to expand ther international GSM network. Vodaphone's entire world network is GSM based except for in the US with their stake in Verizon. A GSM network in the US would be more beneficial to Vodafone as their international customers could use one phone on any Vodafone network in the world.
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RUFF1415 said:...VZW429 said:dave73 said:
And Vodaphone isn't interested in Sprint as they want a GSM network.
Wait, why would Voda phone want a gsm network?
Verizon is owned by Verizon Comunications AND Vodaphone (http://aboutus.vzw.com/aboutusoverview.html)
that would be like competing against themselves?
does that make any sense or am i just crazy?
Supposedly, Vodafone wants to expand their international GSM network. Vodaphone's entire world network is GSM based except for in the US with their stake in Verizon. A GSM network in the US would be more beneficial to Vodafone as their international customers could use one phone on any Vodafon
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dave73 said:...RUFF1415 said:VZW429 said:dave73 said:
And Vodaphone isn't interested in Sprint as they want a GSM network.
Wait, why would Voda phone want a gsm network?
Verizon is owned by Verizon Comunications AND Vodaphone (http://aboutus.vzw.com/aboutusoverview.html)
that would be like competing against themselves?
does that make any sense or am i just crazy?
Supposedly, Vodafone wants to expand their international GSM network. Vodaphone's entire world network is GSM based except for in the US with their stake in Verizon. A GSM network in the US would be more beneficial to Vodafone as their international customers c
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That is not what he meant. Reread it a few times and you will see your mistake.
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texaswireless said:
That is not what he meant. Reread it a few times and you will see your mistake.
Ah....I didn't read it that way the first time. I thought he was stating that CDMA is a dead technology. My apologies.
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No biggie. I know you are smarter than that and it just slipped by the first time.
Other fools would start a new thread within a thread arguing how CDMA was so awesome and GSM sucks yada yada yada...
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
Other fools would start a new thread within a thread arguing how CDMA was so awesome and GSM sucks yada yada yada...
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.
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I know that CDMA is far from dead. I don't see GSM dead anytime soon either. I only wished that the FCC had adopted a standard instead of allowing the war between TDMA & CDMA being duked out, then TDMA getting replaced with GSM, and I won't even touch IDEN, since only Nextel uses it. I say until a standard is put in place in the states, both standards (GSM & CDMA) will be around for years to come.
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SForsyth01 said:...dave73 said:RUFF1415 said:VZW429 said:dave73 said:
And Vodaphone isn't interested in Sprint as they want a GSM network.
Wait, why would Voda phone want a gsm network?
Verizon is owned by Verizon Comunications AND Vodaphone (http://aboutus.vzw.com/aboutusoverview.html)
that would be like competing against themselves?
does that make any sense or am i just crazy?
Supposedly, Vodafone wants to expand their international GSM network. Vodaphone's entire world network is GSM based except for in the US with their stake in Verizon. A GSM network in the US would be more beneficial to Vodafo
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RUFF1415 said:...SForsyth01 said:dave73 said:RUFF1415 said:VZW429 said:dave73 said:
And Vodaphone isn't interested in Sprint as they want a GSM network.
Wait, why would Voda phone want a gsm network?
Verizon is owned by Verizon Comunications AND Vodaphone (http://aboutus.vzw.com/aboutusoverview.html)
that would be like competing against themselves?
does that make any sense or am i just crazy?
Supposedly, Vodafone wants to expand their international GSM network. Vodaphone's entire world network is GSM based except for in the US with their stake in Verizon. A GSM network in the US
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They do have something that Verizon would want...
one word: Customers.
Yes, it may not be as many customers, but its customers. Just like when Cingular took on ATT, they got enough customers to dethrown Verizon. If Verizon swallowed up Sprint, they would be the king again.
In addition, they would be gobbling up Nextel cutomers and it walkie talkie following.
And with Sprint's phones working on the CDMA network, all the hardware will be compatible. Thats the beauty of it.
one word: Customers.
Yes, it may not be as many customers, but its customers. Just like when Cingular took on ATT, they got enough customers to dethrown Verizon. If Verizon swallowed up Sprint, they would be the king again.
In addition, they would be gobbling up Nextel cutomers and it walkie talkie following.
And with Sprint's phones working on the CDMA network, all the hardware will be compatible. Thats the beauty of it.
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eric815 said:Cingular did not buy AT&T wireless for their customers. Cingular bought AT&T Wireless because it saw the opportunity as a quick fix to their 3G spectrum problem.
They do have something that Verizon would want...
one word: Customers.
Yes, it may not be as many customers, but its customers. Just like when Cingular took on ATT, they got enough customers to dethrown Verizon. If Verizon swallowed up Sprint, they would be the king again.
In addition, they would be gobbling up Nextel cutomers and it walkie talkie following.
And with Sprint's phones working on the CDMA network, all the hardware will be compatible. Thats the beauty of it.
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I don't see Verizon or Sprint merging any time soon. With Sprint already merging with nextel I think they will be just fine.
I could see Verizon trying to buy out alltel.
One Company I would like to see either Sprint or Verizon buy is US Cellular. Anyone see this happening anytime soon?
I could see Verizon trying to buy out alltel.
One Company I would like to see either Sprint or Verizon buy is US Cellular. Anyone see this happening anytime soon?
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eric815 said:
They do have something that Verizon would want...
one word: Customers.
Yes, it may not be as many customers, but its customers. Just like when Cingular took on ATT, they got enough customers to dethrown Verizon. If Verizon swallowed up Sprint, they would be the king again.
Yeah, but Verizon looks like it'll take back #1 from Cingular on its own within the next year, even wit'out a merger. They are jus' adding customers like crazy.. Cing ain't.
Plus, I can't see how the Feds would ok a merger like that. 'specially seein' as how Sprint has already merged wit' Nextel. So Verizon-Sprint-Nextel? A near-100 million customer US carrier? About 50% of the entire US market in the hands o' ONE car...
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Comcast is the only cable company available in my area. Still not considered a monopoly.
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RUFF1415 said:
Comcast is the only cable company available in my area. Still not considered a monopoly.
And what has that done fo' your cable prices? 😳
Out here we got a couple of dish services, but Comcast is the only cable company. We got word not long ago that expanded basic cable is gonna go to $50/month in January. And that's w/no premium NOTHING.. no HBO, no Skinemax, no digital cable, no chit.
Sorry, but fo' 'not a monopoly' they sure do act an' price like one.
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RUFF1415 said:
Comcast is the only cable company available in my area. Still not considered a monopoly.
Not true, Ruff. We have Adelphia in Pittsburgh as well. And we also have Satellite options as well.
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SForsyth01 said:RUFF1415 said:
Comcast is the only cable company available in my area. Still not considered a monopoly.
Not true, Ruff. We have Adelphia in Pittsburgh as well. And we also have Satellite options as well.
I don't live inside the city. I live in Greensburg. Adelphia is not available here. Therefore, there is one and only one cable option for us Greensburgers.
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RUFF1415 said:SForsyth01 said:RUFF1415 said:
Comcast is the only cable company available in my area. Still not considered a monopoly.
Not true, Ruff. We have Adelphia in Pittsburgh as well. And we also have Satellite options as well.
I don't live inside the city. I live in Greensburg. Adelphia is not available here. Therefore, there is one and only one cable option for us Greensburgers.
It's not as if it acts like true competition. Comcast is available in some areas and adelphia in others. In no area do you have a choice unless you want satellite. I was just stating that both do exist in the area.
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seein' = seeing
wit = with
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an' = and
lotta = lot of
fo' = for
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These are from only one message. English isn't that difficult, and the number of keystrokes is almost the same (54 versus 61).
'cus = because
wit'out = without
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seein' = seeing
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These are from only one message. English isn't that difficult, and the number of keystrokes is almost the same (54 versus 61).
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f38urry said:
jus' = just
'cus = because
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These are from only one message. English isn't that difficult, and the number of keystrokes is almost the same (54 versus 61).
Not clicking on posts you don't like = Easy. Duh.
This is from only one msg. Common sense isn't that difficult, but if you need mo' tips on avoiding reading posts that bother you, ask fo' help an' I will assist you further. Out.
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It's quite difficult to read a post unless and until you click on it in this forum. It's also impossible to know whether a post may or may not be problematic until it is read.
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True, unless you know the poster and tend to become angered by their postings. Then I'd steer away from those posts, as well as posts with subjects that you are touchy about.
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you broke down all his shortcut words so it cant be that problematic.
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why people gotta be hatin' on System? Let da man type however he pleases! So speaketh me, "Let he who speaks proper english all the time cast the first stone."
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He is only stating that one should use a somewhat relative form of English when talking with others. I too agree that the slang used on this site is extremely annoying. A person using this slang has to work harder to look like they are not trying to work as hard to type.
I 100% agree with you!
I 100% agree with you!
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xIsamuTM said:
why people gotta be hatin' on System? Let da man type however he pleases! So speaketh me, "Let he who speaks proper english all the time cast the first stone."
Thanks, X. 🙂
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Now don't quote me on this but, i remember a couple months ago in one of these carrier formums i read that after the Sprint/Nextel merger the FCC wouldn't allow another merger for national carriers for a certain amount of years.
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Probably true, but give enough money to them and they'll probably let you have whatever you want.
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I was looking through old articles, and i stumbled across this
"Date Posted: Dec 14, 2004, 11:37 AM
Source: Wall Street Journal / AP via Forbes
The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Vodafone has given Verizon Wireless the green-light to make a bid to buy Sprint. Vodafone owns 45% of Verizon Wireless. Such a bid could disrupt final negotiations for a merger between Sprint and Nextel, a deal that is tentatively scheduled to be announced tomorrow in New York. Verizon Communications has been studying a potential Sprint takeover for 18 months, but even with the nod from Vodafone, it is not clear if Verizon will go ahead with the bid. A successful acquisition of Sprint would return Verizon Wireless to the #1 spot, with 65 million...
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"Date Posted: Dec 14, 2004, 11:37 AM
Source: Wall Street Journal / AP via Forbes
The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Vodafone has given Verizon Wireless the green-light to make a bid to buy Sprint. Vodafone owns 45% of Verizon Wireless. Such a bid could disrupt final negotiations for a merger between Sprint and Nextel, a deal that is tentatively scheduled to be announced tomorrow in New York. Verizon Communications has been studying a potential Sprint takeover for 18 months, but even with the nod from Vodafone, it is not clear if Verizon will go ahead with the bid. A successful acquisition of Sprint would return Verizon Wireless to the #1 spot, with 65 million...
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Hope it never happens. I think havin' only three national carriers wouldn't be so great fo' competition, or the consumer.
In fact, wouldn't mind if there were more nationals. If it didn' hurt vzw's roaming agreements any, I'd think it'd be cool if Alltel an' US Cellular merged, an' became a national, or somethin' close to it.
Choices, choices, I likes me some choices.
In fact, wouldn't mind if there were more nationals. If it didn' hurt vzw's roaming agreements any, I'd think it'd be cool if Alltel an' US Cellular merged, an' became a national, or somethin' close to it.
Choices, choices, I likes me some choices.
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SystemShock said:
Hope it never happens. I think havin' only three national carriers wouldn't be so great fo' competition, or the consumer.
In fact, wouldn't mind if there were more nationals. If it didn' hurt vzw's roaming agreements any, I'd think it'd be cool if Alltel an' US Cellular merged, an' became a national, or somethin' close to it.
Choices, choices, I likes me some choices.
I could see Alltel & US Cellular merging, but when it'll happen is unknown. Both have midwest coverage, but Alltel has focused on the Western part of the country outside of the Midwest while US Cellular has focused on the NE outside of the Midwest. If both services merge, divestment will take place in Wisconsi...
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That was when Sprint was bidding on Nextel. It was an attempt to prevent the Sprint/Nextel merger and the story was denied by Vodafone officials.
It will never happen now that the Sprint/Nextel merger has happened.
It will never happen now that the Sprint/Nextel merger has happened.
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no need to. If Verizon keeps it up, their customer service and superior network will pull in enough customers to gain the number one spot soon enough.
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yeahright said:
no need to. If Verizon keeps it up, their customer service and superior network will pull in enough customers to gain the number one spot soon enough.
in addidtion to that Sprint and Nextel were in their talks of merging
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Rumor had it that VZW was considering putting in a bid for Sprint only, but VZW denied the rumors many months ago. If VZW had put in a bid for the service, it would have been for Sprint only and not Nextel. Sprint uses CDMA and making the conversion to VZW wouldn't be as hard as it would have been if they had Nextel's network. But given they service nearly the same major markets, and most of those same markets also are PCS only markets, VZW would have had to divest the major markets. A small market like Lafayette Indiana, VZW could acquire as VZW has cellular band only licenses while Sprint of course is PCS. I don't know if VZW is cellular or PCS in Indianapolis. NW Indiana, VZW couldn't acquire as they operate in both cellular & PCS. ...
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