Coverage Map
Is it just me or does Alltel's enhanced service map seem larger and better than Verizon's? I thought they had the largest network? or is that just voice?
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vzw is voice.
cingy is voice AND data but cingy has the largest data.
you have to check for the meaning of the * i know at one time cingy mean't the largest voice and data network but the * meant (customer based) but they do have the largest data.
cingy is voice AND data but cingy has the largest data.
you have to check for the meaning of the * i know at one time cingy mean't the largest voice and data network but the * meant (customer based) but they do have the largest data.
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cellularman2006 said:
vzw is voice.
cingy is voice AND data but cingy has the largest data.
you have to check for the meaning of the * i know at one time cingy mean't the largest voice and data network but the * meant (customer based) but they do have the largest data.
Wrong. Cingular's voice and data coverage are identical. Wherever you have data, you have voice. Wherever you have voice, you have data.
Cingular's network is the largest in general. Period.
It just needs to be made clear that when companies make these claims, they are talking about native network. And to see what I mean, take a look at pre-paid service maps of each carrier.
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So does that mean, I live in St. Louis and I have text if I move or go back to western nebraska where the only carrier is Altell, will I still get voice coverage and lose text? And there is a VZW in a town that is about 30 miles away? I would ask a VZW rep, but you all seem smarter than they are! 🙂
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But I am at work and I dont have it here. Ha! Ha! Maybe you could tell me this, do you think that I would have to pay roaming if there is an Altell (in town) and a VZW in another town?
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I ask because I just got this phone and I might be moving back to my home town I happen to really love my phone and VZW, I dont want to give it up! How hard is it to change my phone number? Does this cost? Does that start my contract over?
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It's called EasyMove. There's a 800 number on the website for vzw, or you could call CS and tell them you're moving into a different area code and need to switch numbers. I don't think there is any cost for this. Anyone verify?
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Thanks for answering my questions! I am just sad that I am not going to be able to text and things like that because its not covered in the enhanced coverage map! Thanks again!
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Even in extended network, things like text still might work. I think that VZW is working to have one map for data and voice too...and it would kill Cingular's...but maybe that is just wishful thinking.
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not if you have a no roaming plan. if you roam on another carriers network and have a NO ROAM plan then your S.O.L. unless its blocked out for you and you only are registered (for lack of better word) to use vzw's network.
if you have a fax i can send u a copy of the enhanced coverage map
if you have a fax i can send u a copy of the enhanced coverage map
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sent. sorry no cover letter and our printer at our kiosk doesn't prink in color so i bootlegged it.
hope this helps. 😁
hope this helps. 😁
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It does, thank you. I am disapointed though, there is no enhanced service in the area at all!! Ah that sucks! I love using all the features my phone has! Now it looks like I just get to talk on it! Thank you though!
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welcome!
maybe we'll do a little faxing againg sometime 😉 that's if you husband or boyfriend wouldn't mind 😉 😁
just kidding. 🤣
maybe we'll do a little faxing againg sometime 😉 that's if you husband or boyfriend wouldn't mind 😉 😁
just kidding. 🤣
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😉 I am worried about what my boss would/will say. I work for cingular!! shhhhh! that is my work fax number!! lol
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🤣 forget bosses i used to work for cingy now vzw and i still carry my cingy phone. 😁
and i up-graded a while ago. 😉
and i up-graded a while ago. 😉
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Lol! sometimes its just a better deal! I have a great phone and I love VZW!! So I guess you could say that its actually ironic: cingular pays me, and I pay verizon bills every month!
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Im sorry I know you are wrong but other than prepay maps from the carriers can you provide a website that is not affilated in any way with any carrier that will depict this and show your statements as true and accurate.
Also I'm assuming that you are then saying Cingular roams off of no one???
Also I'm assuming that you are then saying Cingular roams off of no one???
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No, I'm not saying that Cingular roams off of nobody, because they do. If you read my entire statement you would have seen that when companies make these claims about network size, it is based on native network coverage (meaning, not including roaming partners).
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ORLANDO, Fla., May 16 /PRNewswire/ -- With the start of the 2005 Atlantic Hurricane Season just around the corner, and memories still fresh from the devastating 2004 season, the nation's largest wireless network stands ready to weather any storms.
http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/newsbyid.asp?id ... »
Cingular technically operates the largest wireless network in the US, but uses the GSM (Global Mobile Communications) protocol rather than the CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) protocol utilized by Verizon. GSM is the de facto global standard for wireless service, and RadioShack is keen to point out the agreement with Cingular brings GSM technology into its fold while retaining support for existing CDMA service throug...
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http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/newsbyid.asp?id ... »
Cingular technically operates the largest wireless network in the US, but uses the GSM (Global Mobile Communications) protocol rather than the CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) protocol utilized by Verizon. GSM is the de facto global standard for wireless service, and RadioShack is keen to point out the agreement with Cingular brings GSM technology into its fold while retaining support for existing CDMA service throug...
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The new Cingular Wireless offers the largest digital voice and data network in the U.S., including service in all top 100 metropolitan areas.
There's always that one too. And seeing as their data and voice networks are identical, well you get the idea.
Honest question. Why doesn't Verizon have coverage in all top 100 metro areas?
There's always that one too. And seeing as their data and voice networks are identical, well you get the idea.
Honest question. Why doesn't Verizon have coverage in all top 100 metro areas?
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RUFF1415 said:
Honest question. Why doesn't Verizon have coverage in all top 100 metro areas?
I'd be curious ta know why that is too. They're only in 97 of the top 100 metro areas, accordin' to their site.
Honest counter-question tho': Accordin' to Cingular's website, they offer coverage to 270 million people:
http://www.cingular.com/cingular_advantage »
Meanwhile, Verizon offers coverage to 291 million people:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller? ... »
Cingular has a lotta resources.. why can't they cover as many people as Verizon? Why the 21 million person gap? Tha...
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The POPs include people that live and work within a coverage area. Due to this, there are large variations in each company's numbers, depending on how they determine and calculate each. Another factor of course would be analog.
Sprint supposedly covers 295 million.
Sprint supposedly covers 295 million.
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Interestin', but I doubt calculation variations alone would account for a 21 million person diff'rence. Also, when you compare an America's Choice map side-by-side wit' a Cingular GSM map, its pretty obvious the AC map coverage is larger not only in number of people covered, but geographically too, 'specially out West.
So Cingular don't cover as many people an' places overall as Verizon (and Sprint) 'cus of roaming agreements an' analog?
So Cingular don't cover as many people an' places overall as Verizon (and Sprint) 'cus of roaming agreements an' analog?
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Correct.
Verizon+ Roaming Partners > Cingular + Roamin Partners
Verizon < Cingular
That should be quite obvious though, because there are many, many, many more regional CDMA carriers than there are GSM carriers in the US.
However, I think that both company's networks (including roaming partners) are incredibly close in size. Chances are, you're going to be covered where you need it.
Verizon+ Roaming Partners > Cingular + Roamin Partners
Verizon < Cingular
That should be quite obvious though, because there are many, many, many more regional CDMA carriers than there are GSM carriers in the US.
However, I think that both company's networks (including roaming partners) are incredibly close in size. Chances are, you're going to be covered where you need it.
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Yeah, definitely a good point there 'bout CDMA regional carriers versus GSM regionals. The CDMA regionals are just way bigger.. Alltel an' US Cellular are HUGE, regionally-speakin'. If those two ever merged they'd be almost T-Mobile's size.
Meanwhile the largest GSM regional is what?.. Dobson/Cellular One? They're only a fraction of either Alltel or US Cell's size.
Meanwhile the largest GSM regional is what?.. Dobson/Cellular One? They're only a fraction of either Alltel or US Cell's size.
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Alltel is buying Western Wireless, if I remember correctly, which uses GSM. Alltel intends to convert their towers over to CDMA from TDMA/GSM. Alltel is doing that with towers they acquired in markets that Cingular had to divest. So if Alltel is going to buy the rural GSM carriers, so they can convert them to CDMA, then GSM will be at a disadvantage in the United States because CDMA is getting bigger coverage wise.
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RUFF1415 said:
Sprint supposedly covers 295 million.
Hmmm! I'm having a hard time believing that one....
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Anxiovert said:RUFF1415 said:
Sprint supposedly covers 295 million.
Hmmm! I'm having a hard time believing that one....
As do I.
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RUFF,
every one of those quotes is talking about "largest" in terms of "number of customers" (the whole 53 million customers, compared to VZW's ~50M )
They aren't talking about largest in "geographical area covered".
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every one of those quotes is talking about "largest" in terms of "number of customers" (the whole 53 million customers, compared to VZW's ~50M )
They aren't talking about largest in "geographical area covered".
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mupi said:
RUFF,
every one of those quotes is talking about "largest" in terms of "number of customers" (the whole 53 million customers, compared to VZW's ~50M )
They aren't talking about largest in "geographical area covered".
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How so? It doesn't state that specifically in any of those articles. A network is a network. Customers are customers. Any article that was talking in terms of of customers stated so. Can you find any articles to contradict them? I think you'll have a hard time. 😉
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Cingular technically operates the largest wireless network in the US, but uses the GSM (Global Mobile Communications) protocol rather than the CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) protocol utilized by Verizon. GSM is the de facto global standard for wireless service, and RadioShack is keen to point out the agreement with Cingular brings GSM technology into its fold while retaining support for existing CDMA service through Sprint.
http://news.designtechnica.com/article8014.html »
What do you make of that one? They're even referencing the network technology in the same sentence.
http://news.designtechnica.com/article8014.html »
What do you make of that one? They're even referencing the network technology in the same sentence.
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RUFF1415 said:
Cingular technically operates the largest wireless network in the US, but uses the GSM
What do you make of that one? They're even referencing the network technology in the same sentence.
Cingular "technically" operates....
technically in what sense? Largest geographical area covered? Largest number of people covered? largest number of customers? We know they have the largest number of customers, the cingular fan-people have been trumpeting that since the merger "the largest mobile to mobile network in america, with over 53 million people" Not with over 193 million square miles (or whatever). With 53 Million PEOPLE. Not 53 million people they CAN cover, 53 Million people they DO ...
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mupi said:
Cingular themselves every time I have seen a reference to "largest network" reference the number of customers. Actually, I'll rephrase that, because on the website, you click on "largest network" it takes you to a page which includes "the Allover network covers 270 million people" I couldn't find verizon's claimed coverage in casual browsing on their web site, but sprint advertises 265 Million.
If you look on the America's Choice page, Verizon says it offers coverage to 291 million people.. 21 million mo' than Cingular says it offers.
Obviously not alla that is Verizon's or Cingular's own network, some is roamin' agreements wit' other carriers.
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Cingular "technically" operates....
technically in what sense? Largest geographical area covered? Largest number of people covered? largest number of customers? We know they have the largest number of customers, the cingular fan-people have been trumpeting that since the merger "the largest mobile to mobile network in america, with over 53 million people" Not with over 193 million square miles (or whatever). With 53 Million PEOPLE. Not 53 million people they CAN cover, 53 Million people they DO cover.
They use the word technically because Cingular does have the largest network, but Verizon has the largest CDMA network and that's what RadioShack has always pointed out. They were making that point ...
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I also think we're getting away from the fact that any company's claims to owning the largest network is based upon their native network. I've stated this many times before. So, I hope you realize that Verizon covering more POPs than Cingular is moot against the argument presented.
I never stated that Cingular + roaming partners network were larger than Verizon + roaming partners network. In fact, I stated exactly the opposite.
It's sheer fact that Cingular owns a larger network than Verizon (again, save the roaming partners).
I never stated that Cingular + roaming partners network were larger than Verizon + roaming partners network. In fact, I stated exactly the opposite.
It's sheer fact that Cingular owns a larger network than Verizon (again, save the roaming partners).
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http://www.gsmworld.com/cgi-bin/ni_map.pl?cc=us&net=be »
I guess gsm world is wrong b/c it looks to me like Vzw prepay map is larger than Cingular "native Network"
I guess gsm world is wrong b/c it looks to me like Vzw prepay map is larger than Cingular "native Network"
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I love trolls they come in spouting off and get real quiet when confronted with facts. It would be much less harmful to their ego if the researched their comments b4 making them
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I am hardly a troll.
And what harm has been done to my ego?
Quiet? Who's being quiet?
I'm sorry I haven't been on these forums all day to reply to your every post in a matter of seconds. How unfortunate my life is... 😳
And what harm has been done to my ego?
Quiet? Who's being quiet?
I'm sorry I haven't been on these forums all day to reply to your every post in a matter of seconds. How unfortunate my life is... 😳
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GSM world hasn't updated their maps since before the merge. If you look, it still says "updated" beside the AT&T map (which obviously no longer exists). Why reference GSMworld maps when Cingular is adding new towers and more coverage every day? Only cell phone companies themselves can give the most up to date depiction of their coverage.
Take a look at Cingular's and Verizon's own maps. What makes that so hard for you to do?
Take a look at Cingular's and Verizon's own maps. What makes that so hard for you to do?
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Or maybe your right and they really do not have roaming agreements with any of these other Co.
Iowa Wireless Services, LP
GSM 1900
Live
Keystone Wireless LLC (Immix Wireless - Pottsville, PA)
GSM 1900
Live
T-Mobile USA, Inc
GSM 1900
Live
Airadigm Communications
GSM 1900
Iowa Wireless Services, LP
GSM 1900
Live
Keystone Wireless LLC (Immix Wireless - Pottsville, PA)
GSM 1900
Live
T-Mobile USA, Inc
GSM 1900
Live
Airadigm Communications
GSM 1900
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don't forget
EDGE WIRELESS
AND PLATEAU. there is mor but i need not to name them.
US CELLULAR, DOBSON............. 🤣
t-mobile won't be a roaming partner for to long though. i believe after a few year but don't quote me i don't feel like searching for the fact to prove it.
OH! and thanks i knew someone would back me up.
PEACE! PERIOD! 🤣
EDGE WIRELESS
AND PLATEAU. there is mor but i need not to name them.
US CELLULAR, DOBSON............. 🤣
t-mobile won't be a roaming partner for to long though. i believe after a few year but don't quote me i don't feel like searching for the fact to prove it.
OH! and thanks i knew someone would back me up.
PEACE! PERIOD! 🤣
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I never stated or even implied that Cingular did not have roaming partners.
Point out to me where I have. Otherwise...
You, sir, are a moron.
Point out to me where I have. Otherwise...
You, sir, are a moron.
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thank i review it later. and if i like i'll beat RUFF123456789011121314151617181920 upside his head with it. 😁 😉
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whats up guys this is just food for thought but i live in AZ and if you look at alltel's coverage map it shows service in this little hole in the ground that we like THE F'ING GRAND CANYON to me this shoots all kind of holes in their credibility just food for thought
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is it just me, but i thought verizon had the largest voice coverage? i realize cingular has the largest "voice+data" but if you include verizon's roaming partners and look at only their digital coverage then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figuere out who has more coverage? just hold the two maps up, red vs orange. You do realize that when you get off of verizon's enhanced service area your still on digital while in extended network don't ya? So prepaid maps have nothing to do with digital national coverage when talking america's coice. Sprint, alltel, us cellular, whoever i don't care who i am roaming off for free as long as my phone works there and i am not paying extra. Verizon is currently working deals with alltel to spread their ...
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