Home calling areas are different depending on what plan you are on. If you are the Local Digital Choice plan, then anywhere outside of that local map area is roaming and nights or weekends don't apply. On the America's Choice plan, anywhere in the U.S. that is colored red or pink in the brochure is considered your home calling area in terms of peak minutes and free nights and weekends, although the In Network promotion doesn't apply to that whole map, but the Enhanced Services map, which is different. If you were on the North America's Choice plan, then anywhere in the U.S., Mexico and Canada that is covered on the coverage map applies to both your airtime minutes and your 1000 night and weekend minutes.

Thanks for the clarification. I did go back to the website and checked out the America's Choice Map--and, sure enough, it said "Home area" for most of the country.

My faith in Verizon has been restored. I'm sorry for doubting you, Verizon. 🙂

My question is this... when will Verizon have a plan where National means National and everything works everywhere, where there are no roaming charges or long distance charges?
With unlimited N&W and unlimited M2M that aren't based on a "home calling area" but are truly nationwide?

Here is the problem with a plan like that. When you use another carriers tower your company is billed by that carrier. If the company is not passing on that charge to you they want you use to use a least amount of minutes as possible. If a company was to offer such a plan they would lose considerable money on such a plan. This is one of the reason's it is so benifical to use VZW because our network covers more area than any other carrier so we have as close to a true national plan with unlimited N&W as possible and giving MTM.

No, that's where you're wrong... that plan does exist, and its even affordable without limiting minutes. Do your homework and see if you can find it.

for example: 600 anytime, unlimited NATIONWIDE M2M, unlimited N&W... no roaming on or off net EVER... and no Long Distance charges.

Have fun!

Is this plan with VZW?

If you are refering to the T-Mobile plan you do realize the phone will not work offnet. So therefore there is no roaming offnet. All the other companies I checked do not include MTM offnet.

As long as it starts on on net, and terminates with a customer of the carrier, it allows offnet M2M.

Stumped?

Again is this a VZW plan? Yes that is how MTM works it is the same as any call it goes by call orgination.

nope not VZW...

Fine I have no clue what plan you are refering to or what area your are refering to.

yes, it does start with call origination with VZW. If you start a call on the network and roam off the network, you will not pay roaming charges. This works just like N/W time, if you start a call in the morning at 5:59 am and stay on the phone for two hours, the entire call is included under N/W time. All calls are billed based on originating time and area. Calling plans from other carriers that advertise lower rates with NO national charges simply don't allow you the option of roaming off the network with the phone as well as having sub-par networks to VZW.

Actually, that's where you're wrong... the Cingular Nation GSM plan allows calls to originate off net or on with no roaming, due to well negotiated roaming agreements. As for sub-par networks, our network coverage is almost equal to VZW pre-buyout, and will only get larger post-buyout.

phonepimp3376 said:
As for sub-par networks, our network coverage is almost equal to VZW pre-buyout, and will only get larger post-buyout.

Larger is one thing, reliable is another.

Got no reliability complaints here... none of my customers complaining about it... none of our monitoring systems showing anything major either... hmmm. Network uptime nationwide at 99.98% looks good from here.

99.98%? 🤣 ..Have you seen who is consistantly ranked #1 in consumer reports? Have you read reviews in wireless magazines? It's sort of obvious that VZW does make everyone else look sub-par with reception and network reliability.

85percent said:
99.98%? 🤣 ..Have you seen who is consistantly ranked #1 in consumer reports? Have you read reviews in wireless magazines? It's sort of obvious that VZW does make everyone else look sub-par with reception and network reliability.

They just don't want to hear that, 85. Apparently Consumer Reports and the hundreds of thousands of people that responded to their survey are wrong.

muchdrama said:
They just don't want to hear that, 85. Apparently Consumer Reports and the hundreds of thousands of people that responded to their survey are wrong.

that whole region thing again! : P

if c.r. had done that survey here, vzw would have scored very poorly.

*news flash*

Consumer Reports is a regional magazine, its not nationwide or anything.. 🙄

But I guess you're right, we dont have digital coverage in Calhoune, Kentucky, population 26. You got us there. 🤣

85percent said:
*news flash*

Consumer Reports is a regional magazine, its not nationwide or anything.. 🙄

But I guess you're right, we dont have digital coverage in Calhoune, Kentucky, population 26. You got us there. 🤣

you are just a typical vzw asshole!

MW2 said:

85percent said:
*news flash*

Consumer Reports is a regional magazine, its not nationwide or anything.. 🙄

But I guess you're right, we dont have digital coverage in Calhoune, Kentucky, population 26. You got us there. 🤣

you are just a typical vzw asshole!

Easy, MW2...we're just getting sick of people dismissing Consumer's article.

yep im an asshole and Consumer Reports is completely wrong.. who knows why millions of people nationwide base alot of buying decisions on that magazine.. stupid people.... 🤣

you're butt-hurt because you're stuck in a two-year agreement with a so-so wireless company....

85percent said:
yep im an asshole and Consumer Reports is completely wrong.. who knows why millions of people nationwide base alot of buying decisions on that magazine.. stupid people.... 🤣

i never said c.r. was completely wrong. what i getting at (and your dumbass brain had to kick into defensive mode, hmm wonder why....) is i don't think c.r. did their survery in my part of the country where vzw IS known (atleast here) to have the worst coverage they anyone else.

you're butt-hurt because you're stuck in a two-year agreement with a so-so wireless company....

nope asshat, i'm completey satified with who i have. but speaking of butt hurting, i'm pretty sure you enjoy taking ...
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"satified" ?
"what i getting at" ?
"worst they anyone else" ?

sounds like someone ditched english class a little too often.

by the way, why ARE you in this forum if you think the CEO of verizon wireless is the devil? you're a troll, go crawl back under your bridge.

85percent said:
sounds like someone ditched english class a little too often.

sounds like someone is grasping for staws just 'cuz i don't pay 100% attention to my spelling. maybe i shoud start watching your posts and point out all your spelling/english errors.

by the way, why ARE you in this forum if you think the CEO of verizon wireless is the devil?

never said he was the devil, now you're just making **** up. as for posting here, then maybe vzw p33ps should only post here and not on any of the other forums either, right?

you're a troll, go crawl back under your bridge.

i can't, you mom lives there. : P

chill out dude, the original post was to muc...
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muchdrama said:
Easy, MW2...we're just getting sick of people dismissing Consumer's article.

i easily dismiss it 'cuz i did at one point some years back subscribe to c.r. and only kept it for a year due to disagreeing a lot with them over what they picked as good. i trust them as much as i would trust a sales person. i do my own research and pick what works best for me, not what some publication says is great.

not that i think any carier is better then any of the others, they all suck in one way or another. but i think the whole c.r. issue is getting way overblown.

MW2 said:

muchdrama said:
They just don't want to hear that, 85. Apparently Consumer Reports and the hundreds of thousands of people that responded to their survey are wrong.

that whole region thing again! : P

if c.r. had done that survey here, vzw would have scored very poorly.

Oh, I totally agree with the whole "where you are now" thing...but Consumer tested 12 of the largest metro areas in the United States.

phonepimp3376 said:
Got no reliability complaints here... none of my customers complaining about it... none of our monitoring systems showing anything major either... hmmm. Network uptime nationwide at 99.98% looks good from here.

I don't care what your "monitors" say...Cingular isn't nearly as reliable nationwide as Verizon. We all know this to be fact.

True. The major reason why I quit Cingular to work for Verizon is because I was tired of coming to work day after day hearing the same complaints about reception. There's not much I could have done for customers with reception problems, except send the customer around in circles by saying "our network is improving", which is what ATT seems to do be doing with this new 'GSM America'

BBKahuna said:
yes, it does start with call origination with VZW. If you start a call on the network and roam off the network, you will not pay roaming charges. This works just like N/W time, if you start a call in the morning at 5:59 am and stay on the phone for two hours, the entire call is included under N/W time. All calls are billed based on originating time and area. Calling plans from other carriers that advertise lower rates with NO national charges simply don't allow you the option of roaming off the network with the phone as well as having sub-par networks to VZW.

Actually you're wrong on the N&W part, the billing system adjusts for the time, if you started a call at 5:59am and were on the ph...
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actually phonepimp is right on this one, with VZW you both have to be on the VZW network for the call to count as In Network

Of course you are referring to something called "Bill & Keep" which states that the billing conditions which existed when the call first connected are true for the duration of a call. This is true for all wireless carriers.
If a customer initiates a call on its own network and travels into another carriers market the call is billed as if the customer stayed in their home network. However if a customer initiates a call while roaming and roaming is billed and travels into the home network then the entire call is billed as roaming. It cuts both ways.
The reason mobile to mobile minutes are not unlimited when calling from another carrier's network is that the other carrier bills the carrier. Minutes within a carriers network don't cost the c...
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