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Rate VZW on scale of 1 to 5. #5 being best for phones

Rx

Jun 28, 2005, 8:51 AM
I'm hoping the folks at VZW will read some of these posts and realize how far behind they are when it comes to new phones. Make it easy for the them just put in your heading the number 1 for being the worst and number 5 for being the best. Any number in between would also be good feedback. Let's get some new phones!!!!!!
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billy_b_adass

Jun 28, 2005, 11:04 AM
I always said that VZW has been "slow" to get new tech out there.
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billy_b_adass

Jun 28, 2005, 11:06 AM
Get on it already VZW!!! They only way they will change is when other companies start to threaten their profit margins. Money drives everything...
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muchdrama

Jun 28, 2005, 11:51 AM
billy_b_adass said:
Get on it already VZW!!! They only way they will change is when other companies start to threaten their profit margins. Money drives everything...


Well, when that day occurs perhaps you'll see the changes you desire.
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muchdrama

Jun 28, 2005, 11:50 AM
Rx said:
I'm hoping the folks at VZW will read some of these posts and realize how far behind they are when it comes to new phones. Make it easy for the them just put in your heading the number 1 for being the worst and number 5 for being the best. Any number in between would also be good feedback. Let's get some new phones!!!!!!


Verizon might assign folks to read this forum from time to time, but you have to realize that we're the minority in regards to who wants high tech handsets. Verizon thrives on a rock solid network, and the majority (the GREAT majority) of its subscribers just want phones that make calls period.
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Vatothe0

Jun 28, 2005, 12:59 PM
Maybe once a day will I talk to someone that wants a phone that does more than make calls and have a camera "just in case". Lots of people have v710's but none of them have BT headsets much less use it for anything else.

There's no monetary drive for Verizon to just throw phones on the market. Notice that Verizon releases quite a bit fewer turd phones than anyone else.
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RUFF1415

Jun 28, 2005, 1:16 PM
The v710 is a turd phone if I ever did see one. My close friend had went through three of them, all with the same problem. The phone wouldn't stop ringing even after she answered a call. Made it literally impossible to recieve calls on her phone. Needless to say she gave up on that phone.

By the way I'd give Verizon a 2.5 just because of the amount of complaints I hear about Verizon based solely on their phone selection. If you ask me, the lineup is a bit redundant and stale. Compareitivly I would give Cingular a 4, Sprint a 4, T-Mobile a 3.5, and to be honest I couldn't rank Nextel's phone lineup.
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bnob99

Jun 28, 2005, 4:24 PM
I'll stick with Verizon, where I know I'm going to have much more reliable service. I've been with Verizon, Cingular, and Nextel, and verizon blows everyone out of the water. I want my calls to go through, not just have a phone that looks nice. Verizon phones are just fine. Obviously they are doing something right. There "lack" of phone selection hasn't hurt them yet.
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RUFF1415

Jun 28, 2005, 4:54 PM
Okay why are you jumping all over a simple post that I made? First of all I suggest you go back and read a few other of my posts because obviously you are getting a little over-defensive with the wrong people.

The person wanted honest opinions from each person on Verizon's lineup. My opinion is that their lineup is redundant and stale when comparing them to other company's phones, like I've already said. I never once mentioned anything other than their phone lineup. I myself have praised Verizon for doing nearly everything right and you can see that they have just from the company that they have become.

However, I have been using cell phones since 1997. Over that period I have been with Bell Atlantic (AMPS), Verizon, Sprint, AT&T,...
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muchdrama

Jun 28, 2005, 6:05 PM
RUFF1415 said:
Okay why are you jumping all over a simple post that I made? First of all I suggest you go back and read a few other of my posts because obviously you are getting a little over-defensive with the wrong people.

The person wanted honest opinions from each person on Verizon's lineup. My opinion is that their lineup is redundant and stale when comparing them to other company's phones, like I've already said. I never once mentioned anything other than their phone lineup. I myself have praised Verizon for doing nearly everything right and you can see that they have just from the company that they have become.

However, I have been using cell phones since 1997. Over that period I have been with Bell Atla
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RUFF1415

Jun 28, 2005, 7:41 PM
No, he took a post that was sheerly about the phone selection and twisted it into being a "whose network is better" deal. I'm not here to argue whose network is better because I know which one works for me. He didn't have to mention one thing about network quality, and he did. 🙄
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Rx

Jun 29, 2005, 10:44 PM
bnob99 said:
I'll stick with Verizon, where I know I'm going to have much more reliable service. I've been with Verizon, Cingular, and Nextel, and verizon blows everyone out of the water. I want my calls to go through, not just have a phone that looks nice. Verizon phones are just fine. Obviously they are doing something right. There "lack" of phone selection hasn't hurt them yet.


You are right my friend, but GM use to rule the auto business also. Just give it some time. We are so far behind Japan it is crazy. The funny thing about all of this, is that VZW could run all the other phone companys out of town if that step up to the plate and be a true leader.
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muchdrama

Jun 28, 2005, 6:03 PM
RUFF1415 said:
The v710 is a turd phone if I ever did see one. My close friend had went through three of them, all with the same problem. The phone wouldn't stop ringing even after she answered a call. Made it literally impossible to recieve calls on her phone. Needless to say she gave up on that phone.

By the way I'd give Verizon a 2.5 just because of the amount of complaints I hear about Verizon based solely on their phone selection. If you ask me, the lineup is a bit redundant and stale. Compareitivly I would give Cingular a 4, Sprint a 4, T-Mobile a 3.5, and to be honest I couldn't rank Nextel's phone lineup.


Honestly, GSM phones just have more features, and work like God intended them ...
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RUFF1415

Jun 28, 2005, 7:39 PM
muchdrama said:
RUFF1415 said:
The v710 is a turd phone if I ever did see one. My close friend had went through three of them, all with the same problem. The phone wouldn't stop ringing even after she answered a call. Made it literally impossible to recieve calls on her phone. Needless to say she gave up on that phone.

By the way I'd give Verizon a 2.5 just because of the amount of complaints I hear about Verizon based solely on their phone selection. If you ask me, the lineup is a bit redundant and stale. Compareitivly I would give Cingular a 4, Sprint a 4, T-Mobile a 3.5, and to be honest I couldn't rank Nextel's phone lineup.


Honestly, GSM phones just have more featur
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Rx

Jun 29, 2005, 10:40 PM
Vatothe0 said:
Maybe once a day will I talk to someone that wants a phone that does more than make calls and have a camera "just in case". Lots of people have v710's but none of them have BT headsets much less use it for anything else.

There's no monetary drive for Verizon to just throw phones on the market. Notice that Verizon releases quite a bit fewer turd phones than anyone else.


I have the V710. Great phone, but it cost a lot of money just for a phone. I bought it to work with my palm T3 and it does not work. VZW told me it would. Nobody and I mean nobody could help me with this. Was told that the bluetooth upgrades would do it, so I hung on to the phone. Now I'm stuck for another year! Gre...
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billy_b_adass

Jun 28, 2005, 2:45 PM
Yes, the only reason I have Verizon is that the coverage in my area is poor from the other companies at the moment. Verizon is a strong company right now, but, they will fall eventually (may take a while but it will happen)!

Currently, the only thing verizon has going for them is their coverage. The CS reps I spoke to about buying phones, family share packages, etc. really had very limited knowledge about anything. I was better off going to Radio Shack and talking to them. For some reason, Rad Shack employees are much more knowledgable about Verizon products and services than actual verizon employees (at least the VZW people I spoke with).

You can say what you want, I don't want to offend anybody imparticular but I don't feel Veri...
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lexical

Jun 28, 2005, 2:59 PM
I see VZW as the "thinking mans" company. What good is a high-end phone on a sub-par network? A phones worth should be based on that primary function: making and receiving calls. Would you rather have a Cadillac Escalade fully loaded with an 1.2 Liter I-4 engine putting out 120hp and 110 lb/ft of torque fueled by regular octane gas, or a Ford Crown Victoria with a premium package, housing a 5.6 Liter V-8 putting out 445hp and 430 lb/ft torque, buring 93 octane fuel? As far as I am concerned, VZW is accomplishing what a carrier was originally intended to provide: good service. They may not have the shiniest, flashiest, most colorful phones, but they do have the most reliable IMO. Practicality will last longer than this years fad...
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MercedesBenz

Jun 30, 2005, 2:47 AM
well put.
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digitmasher

Jun 30, 2005, 10:52 AM
yeah and that 93 octane burns up your wallet. much like verizon does. that was a good anaology
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BetterThanJake

Jun 28, 2005, 3:07 PM
billy_b_adass said:
Verizon is a strong company right now, but, they will fall eventually (may take a while but it will happen)!

🙄 Dream on, dude. We had a guy here not long back who said the same thing pretty much word for word for months on end, and he got proven wrong. If you're waiting for Verizon to fall, better get comfortable, because its going to be a good long while.


4. BREAK THE NEWLY FORMING MONOPOLY CALLED VZW....

Now this is just silly. How in the world do you have a monopoly with only 25 percent marketshare? Verizon isn't even the largest carrier right now in total number of customers.
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MercedesBenz

Jun 30, 2005, 2:49 AM
BetterThanJake said:

Verizon isn't even the largest carrier right now in total number of customers.


I think Cingular is now, however, VZW is catching up REAL quick 😉
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RUFF1415

Jun 30, 2005, 11:19 AM
Since the merge, the total gains between the two companies are seperated by about 100,000 customers. Cingular is ahead by about 7 million as of now so I don't know if that's actually "REAL quick".
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RUFF1415

Jun 30, 2005, 1:49 PM
*5 million
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tomtiguy

Jun 28, 2005, 4:39 PM
"They lack the "pioneering" aspect of cellular ideas and technology because they worry about making billions."

Yea you're wrong. Verizon was cutting edge in their cooperation with MSN to allow VZW users to, along with many other capabilities, check and send Hotmail/MSN emails. Also, we Verizon customers were the first to use AIM/MSN Messenger via text messages. No minutes, no charges, just texts. We were also the first with the ability to send and receive emails from our phone (your ten digit number @vtext.com). The first. Do tell, as well, how many companies offer data connection using the phone as a wireless modem using only airtime minutes. In fact in my three years with Verizon I haven't learned of any example in which VZW followed th...
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Echternacht

Jun 28, 2005, 5:47 PM
I have to agree with what you've said, but I'm not all for the snide attitude anyone's holding. In fact, I have to agree with a lot to the replies made in regarding to BBB's post. (Likewise, I have to agree with Tom that Verizon's been offering leading services before anyone else has gotten a chance. I do think that Rollover is more of a gimicky ploy than an industry revolutionizing tactic. It's a selling point and a counter-punch and an advertising icon, not a real credible service.)

So here's a couple thoughts out there.

There are currently two main players in the wireless market: Cingular Wireless and Verizon, which have gained the bulk of their service through roaming agreements. Neither of them offer competitive strikes against ea...
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billy_b_adass

Jun 28, 2005, 8:39 PM
I am not saying verizon will fall in the next 5 years or anything (I am aware that they are a strong company at the moment). It will take some time, the satellite market will be the next big thing. Motorola didn't spend over 20 billion dollars on the "iridium" project for nothing. Verizon may/will have their hand in that also, but who knows what the competition will do to them...

I don't think Verizon will exist as we now know it. Yes, they do offer some good things, but overall, they seem to hold back until they find a way to MAKE MORE MONEY on the new technology (bluetooth? if you can still call it bluetooth after VZW is done hacking it up).

Crimony, do company execs deserve to make millions of dollars??? Hold back on their pay a...
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lexical

Jun 28, 2005, 9:41 PM
I've never had trouble using an overseas phone on VZW's neetwork. The only thing that does't operate fully is the data service. I have a Moto 10th anniversary StarTac and Moto Spinner 2 that work just fine as far as the voice aspects. If I feel I need the data, I just go on the net and change the IMEI to my Audiovox XV6600 😁
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bizkitsngravy

Jun 30, 2005, 6:18 AM
billy_b_adass said:
They are raising the text message receive from 0.02 to 0.10 cents. Why? So people will buy into the text/pic packages and assure verizon a steady monthly income. It is good business in a way, but the consumer seems to be getting punished.

I think that verizon is getting too greedy for the $$$ and are losing site of some other things that consumers would like to see. Speaking only for myself...


I remember the day when 15 minutes a month on a cell phone cost you $50, and people considered that reasonable for the incredible technology they were buying into.

Of course times change and technology evolves, and the american public once again has become conditioned to think anything l...
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SForsyth01

Jun 30, 2005, 7:37 AM
VERY WELL PUT!!!!!!!!!
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Echternacht

Jun 30, 2005, 10:58 AM
I give you my applause, very well put. Sadly though Triple B can't really read as demonstrated by the response to my post.
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avissugar

Jun 28, 2005, 6:37 PM
I give Verizon a 1 also because I think that there phone 😕 suck. But I like the service. 😉
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Boulderboy

Jun 29, 2005, 12:12 PM
Their phone selection sucked then, sucks now, and more than likely will always suck.

I complain because I cannot change my number. I live in NC with a NY number. So I cannot port my number. I would need a new one, OR fly to NY and go to Cingy or TMobile and port it there.
Either way a big PITA and I'm not so sure about the 2 carriers I mentioned. They all suck in my opinion.

And once upon a time I loved VZW, go figure.
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MercedesBenz

Jun 30, 2005, 2:42 AM
Boulderboy said:
Their phone selection sucked then, sucks now, and more than likely will always suck.

I complain because I cannot change my number. I live in NC with a NY number. So I cannot port my number. I would need a new one, OR fly to NY and go to Cingy or TMobile and port it there.
Either way a big PITA and I'm not so sure about the 2 carriers I mentioned. They all suck in my opinion.

And once upon a time I loved VZW, go figure.

It's people like you that eventually kill themselves because they hate everything, and nothing can change that... so why don't you do us all a favor, either 1) hurry up and finish the job, or 2) stop posting here, no one cares what you think 😁
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Boulderboy

Jun 30, 2005, 10:01 AM
Your right! I hate Mercedes Benz too, ever since Chrysler bought them. 🤣
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ajgh

Jun 30, 2005, 10:55 AM
Wait, Chrysler bought Mercedes Benz? Wow, I didn't know there was a company called Mercedes Benz. Last I looked Daimler "merged" with Chrysler. Actually, it was more like Daimler took over Chrysler, not the other way around.
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Echternacht

Jun 30, 2005, 5:14 PM
What says you can't port your number? Just means that they have to activate you phone in the New York/Upstate New York market. Shame AT&T isn't around anymore, since their GSM billing system was national not market-based.
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