Is Verizon going to present a THIN PHONE(i.e. the razor)
Does anyone know if Verizon is going to bring out any thin handsets or are we always going to be stuck with these walking handcannons? It seems like the other providers are always carrying better products.
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what a dumb question. Yes they are looking into carrying that POS but would any sales rep really want it, NO. Just ask Cingular. That POS has caused them more problems than anything and everyone i knew from Cing that got it, returned it and went back to the "walking handcannons"! Also the Mot710 is the razor phone feature for feature, except different keypad, but with better reception, better reliability and less of hassle than the razor. The razor is a cheap POS and the entire casing is plastic which offers so much support for such a thin phone. Let carriers offer flashier phones, if you want "bling bling" get their stuff, but don't complain about your service.
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You don't know much.
The RAZR casing is made entirely out of aluminum and chemically etched titanium, not plastic. Show me the last time you cracked a piece of aluminum or titanium and then you can call it a POS, weak phone.
What phone do you have? Because if you want plastic, that's what the v710 is made of. đ
The RAZR casing is made entirely out of aluminum and chemically etched titanium, not plastic. Show me the last time you cracked a piece of aluminum or titanium and then you can call it a POS, weak phone.
What phone do you have? Because if you want plastic, that's what the v710 is made of. đ
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actually i worked for CIngular the time they got it and the grey casing is not/was not titanium, it was plastic and thats what all the managers who got them that worked for me had and they returned them. I think you are thinking of the keypad which is made of titanium i believe since it is electro luminiscent. But you really don't know too much cause its made of plastic there buddy. So yeah i do know what i'm talking about and more than you since i've worked with cingular and tested out most of their current phones and now work for VZW and know more that you really care to know. And if you have a razor and like it your one of the few
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Well obviously you don't know as much as you think, and it's pathetic that you worked for Cingular and are full of misinformation.
Anodized Aluminium Case
The ultra-thin Moto Razr V3 has the distinctive metallic lustre of anodized aluminum.
http://direct.motorola.com/ENS/Web_Feature_Home.asp? ... »
Satisfied?
I love how two people today have already told me that they know more than me about the cell ular phone business, before they even know who I am and they assume that I'm just a consumer. Classic. đ
Anodized Aluminium Case
The ultra-thin Moto Razr V3 has the distinctive metallic lustre of anodized aluminum.
http://direct.motorola.com/ENS/Web_Feature_Home.asp? ... »
Satisfied?
I love how two people today have already told me that they know more than me about the cell ular phone business, before they even know who I am and they assume that I'm just a consumer. Classic. đ
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doesn't lustre mean shine...i believes it actually paint since i called up a store and asked them if its plastic and they said yep. You really should check before you just read stuff on the internet.
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Okay, that is on Motorola's website. I didn't pull if off of some little kid's blogring.
Uh, I just called up a store and asked them too and they said it was aluminum. BS, you didn't call anybody up. That's what your word means to me.
If you don't believe a sales rep that works for Cingular and you don't believe Moto's own website, then you need to sit down and finish what you've been smoking.
Uh, I just called up a store and asked them too and they said it was aluminum. BS, you didn't call anybody up. That's what your word means to me.
If you don't believe a sales rep that works for Cingular and you don't believe Moto's own website, then you need to sit down and finish what you've been smoking.
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Well I wasn't complaining about the service, that's fine. I think you have some kind of complex or something because it was just a simple question....and besides you never really answered the question
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I don't even know who you are because I didn't read your post. If you take a look back at my replies they were all directed at Krampfer, not you. Maybe you have the complex because you assumed I was talking to you, possibly?
I never answered you question because I was proving to Krampfer that the RAZR is and never was being made out of plastic.
đ Way to assume I was talking to you.
đ˛ OH, SLAM.
I never answered you question because I was proving to Krampfer that the RAZR is and never was being made out of plastic.
đ Way to assume I was talking to you.
đ˛ OH, SLAM.
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Wait a minute...
Who ever was complaining about any service? I sure wasn't. Are you sure that you are replying to the right people?
Who ever was complaining about any service? I sure wasn't. Are you sure that you are replying to the right people?
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Kampfer422 said: what a dumb question. Yes they are looking into carrying that POS but would any sales rep really want it, NO. Just ask Cingular. That POS has caused them more problems than anything and everyone i knew from Cing that got it, returned it and went back to the "walking handcannons"! Also the Mot710 is the razor phone feature for feature, except different keypad, but with better reception, better reliability and less of hassle than the razor. The razor is a cheap POS and the entire casing is plastic which offers so much support for such a thin phone. Let carriers offer flashier phones, if you want "bling bling" get their stuff, but don't complain about your service.
I just realized that you are...
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I never said the casing was titanium, I said it was aluminum, which is NOT plastic. The keyboard is made out of chemically etched titanium. And I've already proved to you that it is indeed aluminum, and not plastic. đ¤Ŗ
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Ok after reading a couple posts from Kampfer422 i have some comments, with this motorola razr phone, it IS aluminum/titanium everyone one of them, i dont know what u had but you seem to be the only ones that got these appearant " plastic phone" i have see nthese motoronl phone and seen people drop it on concrete and wont break.. sound like someone just a lil mad about something he doesnt need to be
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cingularreppy said:
Ok after reading a couple posts from Kampfer422 i have some comments, with this motorola razr phone, it IS aluminum/titanium everyone one of them, i dont know what u had but you seem to be the only ones that got these appearant " plastic phone" i have see nthese motoronl phone and seen people drop it on concrete and wont break.. sound like someone just a lil mad about something he doesnt need to be
I've dropped my V600 on concrete using a cheapy plastic face plate and it hasn't broken. That's proof of nothing. đ
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Kampfer422 said:
actually i worked for CIngular the time they got it and the grey casing is not/was not titanium, it was plastic and thats what all the managers who got them that worked for me had and they returned them. I think you are thinking of the keypad which is made of titanium i believe since it is electro luminiscent. But you really don't know too much cause its made of plastic there buddy. So yeah i do know what i'm talking about and more than you since i've worked with cingular and tested out most of their current phones and now work for VZW and know more that you really care to know. And if you have a razor and like it your one of the few
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o i forgot to laugh at your stupidity and lack of research before commenting here. LOL đ đ đ đ
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Thats odd... I work for Cingular as well and am holding what looks like a RAZR right now... let me be sure... Anodized aluminum casing: check. Chemically etched nickel-plated copper alloy keypad: check. Last time I checked, aluminum and copper were metals. Plastic is a nonmetal comprised mostly of carbon. Also, only metals can be combined into alloys. Yep, dats a metal fone rite dere if I've ever done seen wun...
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đ¤Ŗ Wait, now's the time for me to laugh at his plain out stupidity right? đ¤Ŗ đ¤Ŗ đ¤Ŗ đ¤Ŗ
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https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
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I feel a good laugh coming on too. đ¤Ŗ
Don't worry. Lack of research doesn't exist with me. đ
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
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I feel a good laugh coming on too. đ¤Ŗ
Don't worry. Lack of research doesn't exist with me. đ
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adonized aluminum....it means it's coated with aluminum. SO that pretty much means it's wrapped in tin foil. now that's hot! đ
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First of all, it's not adonized it's anodized. Secondly, anodized aluminum does not mean covered in aluminum. Anodized aluminum is aluminum that is subjected to electricity which in turn coats it in a protective and decorative film.
Directly from Webster's Dictionary:
Anodize- To subject a metal to electrolytic action as the anode of a cell in order to coat for protection
Directly from Webster's Dictionary:
Anodize- To subject a metal to electrolytic action as the anode of a cell in order to coat for protection
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I have never witnessed some many ugly useless outdated phones in one place ever as I have Verizon.
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At least they have phones to choose from. Go to T-Mobile the shelves are bare. That's one of the reasons I left them.
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well i'm looking at my friends busted Razor and he did point out one thing that may make both of us right and wrong. The newest one the V3 is made of metals but the first version was plastic as may the second one. BUt its still more flash than anything.
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Oh, so you agree that it is made of metal? It always has and always will be. You must have had the store demo. đ¤Ŗ
Here is when it was announced:
RAZR V3: One of the world's thinnest clamshell phones. Using unique metal materials and extreme miniaturization, the V3 measures just 0.54" thin. Includes a large TFT main display, color external display, internal antenna, VGA camera, long-range Bluetooth, and quad-band GSM. Available worldwide Fall 2004.
https://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=922 »
Don't you love the research I have done? đ
Here is when it was announced:
RAZR V3: One of the world's thinnest clamshell phones. Using unique metal materials and extreme miniaturization, the V3 measures just 0.54" thin. Includes a large TFT main display, color external display, internal antenna, VGA camera, long-range Bluetooth, and quad-band GSM. Available worldwide Fall 2004.
https://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=922 »
Don't you love the research I have done? đ
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Oh oh oh! I found another.
Made of aircraft grade aluminum.
http://direct.motorola.com/ENS/NationalHome.asp?Coun ... »
^From the Moto website.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/RUFF1415/RAZR ... »
^Again, on a photo host just incase it isn't still on the site tomorrow.
And the research continues... đ
Do you really still believe that the RAZR is made out of plastic?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA... đ
Made of aircraft grade aluminum.
http://direct.motorola.com/ENS/NationalHome.asp?Coun ... »
^From the Moto website.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/RUFF1415/RAZR ... »
^Again, on a photo host just incase it isn't still on the site tomorrow.
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Do you really still believe that the RAZR is made out of plastic?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA... đ
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I don't need to get over myself, I never was stuck on myself.
This person thought he (I'm assuming it's a guy) knew his **** and decided to laugh at my "stupidity and lack of research" over something that he knew jackshit about and obviously was wrong. After I proved him wrong once, he can't admit he was indeed wrong. After not only I proved him wrong but another too, he can't admit he was wrong. After I proved him wrong not once, not twice, bu three tiems...well you get the picture. He can't just continue to sit there and deny the facts. He wants to be an asshole, I can give it right back.
Plus, I think I'm owed an apology.
This person thought he (I'm assuming it's a guy) knew his **** and decided to laugh at my "stupidity and lack of research" over something that he knew jackshit about and obviously was wrong. After I proved him wrong once, he can't admit he was indeed wrong. After not only I proved him wrong but another too, he can't admit he was wrong. After I proved him wrong not once, not twice, bu three tiems...well you get the picture. He can't just continue to sit there and deny the facts. He wants to be an asshole, I can give it right back.
Plus, I think I'm owed an apology.
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...ok? I'm sorry you can let it go đ¤Ŗ JK, anyway, the RAZR is a nice phone, I will admit, however I've had customers come in with horror stories about their RAZR's.
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The argument was never whether the RAZR was a good phone or not, it was over whether it was ever made out of plastic or not. It never was. Period.
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That's hilarious....metal materials....the bracelets you get out of $.25 machines are made of "metal materials." That doesnt mean they're sturdy and high-tech. personally, I would not want a phone that i would be scared to use for fear of breaking it in half.
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Verizon is supposed to get the RAZR late this year or early '06. However, I don't think its really that big a deal... other than the styling, the RAZR really isn't all that. Every single one of my Cingular-using friends took a pass on it, and went with various 'not thin' Nokias instead.
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Thank you for answering the question at hand.
It is so frustrating to have a straightforward question, and then the different factions use the rest of the forum to try and take pot shots at each other and prove their masculinity.
I would like to follow up with a question or two for anyone who could offer some insight. Aside from the debate whether the RZR performance may or may not be on par, does the phone truly offer any breakthrough characteristics or features? And, could the phone concept be refined to make it extremely functional, practical, and outstanding while maintaining its size and look?
I think that thinner is better assuming that all other variables stay the same such as quality, reception, features, etc...
It is so frustrating to have a straightforward question, and then the different factions use the rest of the forum to try and take pot shots at each other and prove their masculinity.
I would like to follow up with a question or two for anyone who could offer some insight. Aside from the debate whether the RZR performance may or may not be on par, does the phone truly offer any breakthrough characteristics or features? And, could the phone concept be refined to make it extremely functional, practical, and outstanding while maintaining its size and look?
I think that thinner is better assuming that all other variables stay the same such as quality, reception, features, etc...
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Take a look at the specs, and some of the reviews to get a better idea of the features and functions that the phone will have:
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=547 »
Other than the features listed for the GSM RAZR, I believe there is only one major difference. The CDMA RAZR will have a 1.3 MP camera, instead of the standard VGA camera. If you're mainly worried about the call quality and reception, I've used this phone personally and it is one of the better Motos in those areas out there. This would probably be the only Moto I would give a chance if I was going to feel comfortable that I will be able to make and hold a clear call.
Just a side note, the CDMA RAZR won't be quite the same dimensions as the GSM RAZR becuase...
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https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=547 »
Other than the features listed for the GSM RAZR, I believe there is only one major difference. The CDMA RAZR will have a 1.3 MP camera, instead of the standard VGA camera. If you're mainly worried about the call quality and reception, I've used this phone personally and it is one of the better Motos in those areas out there. This would probably be the only Moto I would give a chance if I was going to feel comfortable that I will be able to make and hold a clear call.
Just a side note, the CDMA RAZR won't be quite the same dimensions as the GSM RAZR becuase...
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RUFF1415 said:...
Take a look at the specs, and some of the reviews to get a better idea of the features and functions that the phone will have:
https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=547 »
Other than the features listed for the GSM RAZR, I believe there is only one major difference. The CDMA RAZR will have a 1.3 MP camera, instead of the standard VGA camera. If you're mainly worried about the call quality and reception, I've used this phone personally and it is one of the better Motos in those areas out there. This would probably be the only Moto I would give a chance if I was going to feel comfortable that I will be able to make and hold a clear call.
Just a side note, the CDMA RAZR won't be quite the same
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You'd think that the hardened glass screen and any chipset inside the phone would prevent it from folding the whole way. đ¤Ŗ Oh well, it's Moto, I wouldn't expect too much.
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đ Well my Moto T720 (and wife's) are both over 2 years old and still solid as great as the day we got them. Moto's rock in my book.
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RUFF1415 said:
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The second (the first being me) person on earth pleased with the overall performance of their Motorola product (I had the t730 for a while...never had a problem with it).
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I thoroughly enjoyed my Moto 270c Timeport. It was one of (if not the best) monochrome display bar phones I've had the pleasure of using.
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my v710 is freaking awesome.
But I am a gadget freak, so all the features would make up for any problems anyhow. Call quality is awesome, nice and clear. custom ringers are LOUD!
But I am a gadget freak, so all the features would make up for any problems anyhow. Call quality is awesome, nice and clear. custom ringers are LOUD!
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muchdrama said:
Perhaps this will beef up the torsional rigidity...I've heard of RAZRs literally folding over in people's pockets. Industrial grade aluminum my keister.
If the CRAZR (CDMA RAZR) is a little thicker than the current RAZR, then yes, that would definitely help tons in the rigidity department.
Apparently, all else being equal, if you double the diameter of a tube it becomes eight times more rigid, i.e. rigidity is cubed, not just doubled. So apparently, with phones, as with women, there is such a thing as 'too thin'. đ
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BetterThanJake said:muchdrama said:
Perhaps this will beef up the torsional rigidity...I've heard of RAZRs literally folding over in people's pockets. Industrial grade aluminum my keister.
If the CRAZR (CDMA RAZR) is a little thicker than the current RAZR, then yes, that would definitely help tons in the rigidity department.
Apparently, all else being equal, if you double the diameter of a tube it becomes eight times more rigid, i.e. rigidity is cubed, not just doubled. So apparently, with phones, as with women, there is such a thing as 'too thin'. đ
And on today's Maury..."Thick Women...Yea or Nay?". Uh, yea!
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Most likely not, other than the possibility of the RAZR.
Verizon's "largest" network relies on analog in some places and without it your won't recieve a signal in places outwest, or very rural areas. For this reason most of their phones include AMPS capability which is basically a space hog for the phones. The only way that the phones are going to get thinner is if the AMPS technology is removed and they sacrifice a few other features, and I'm not sure many people would want that.
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Verizon's "largest" network relies on analog in some places and without it your won't recieve a signal in places outwest, or very rural areas. For this reason most of their phones include AMPS capability which is basically a space hog for the phones. The only way that the phones are going to get thinner is if the AMPS technology is removed and they sacrifice a few other features, and I'm not sure many people would want that.
There, I answered your question. đ
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RUFF1415 said:
Verizon's "largest" network relies on analog in some places and without it your won't recieve a signal in places outwest, or very rural areas.
Huh? I need analog to recieve a signal on Verizon if I'm 'out west'? That's sure news to me. I'm in California, and very few places here are analog.
Now, there are some fairly large swathes of land in states like Texas, Oregon, Arizona, New Mexico, and Utah that are analog for Verizon, but those areas tend to be way out in the boondocks where few ppl live. Most folks would seem to be on the digital network, even 'out west'.
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You're overlooking two little words. I said "in places out west". I didn't just say "out west" which would have an entirely different meaning. My point was that there is a strip between the midwest and west coast that you could be relying on analog if you happened to live there or were travelling through. Just so happens that the strip is "out west" from where I am. But again, don't forget I did say "in places". đ
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mrbrowngreen said:
Does anyone know if Verizon is going to bring out any thin handsets or are we always going to be stuck with these walking handcannons? It seems like the other providers are always carrying better products.
Actually, having a 'walking handcannon' sounds kinda neat. Where can I get one of those? đ
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