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T-Mobile hspa+ VS Verizon LTE

swillcorp

Jan 6, 2011, 3:57 PM
Im looking for an articulate response on the comparison of T-Mobiles HSPA+ 21 and 42 Mbps 4g(ish) network and Verizons 4G LTE network. Im interested in the opinions but mostly the science on why one would be better both theoretically and in real-world situations.
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Menno

Jan 7, 2011, 10:33 AM
Check out phonescoops comparison between the services. Granted, it's only for the Dallas issue, but it's still worth telling.

Also, if you want to do some digging, check out how tech journalists are handling data connections at CES. Pretty much EVERY 3g network (including Tmobile's 4g, since it's using the same tech as their 3g) was brought to it's knees.

LTE? 20-28MBPS down.

I'll let someone else handle the science but it comes down to this:
LTE is more efficient at handling data than ANY tech based on 3g technology (EVDO, HSPA, etc). It's also cheaper to deploy, and since it's on a lower spectrum band it's a LOT cheaper to deploy compared to HSPA+ as far as coverage and bandwidth goes.
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DiamondPro

Jan 7, 2011, 8:46 PM
A lot cheaper for verizon but not the consumer
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Menno

Jan 7, 2011, 8:47 PM
Saving money every month only matters if the service is equal.

Ask anyone who was at CES this week how their LTE modems worked compared to their HSPA+ devices.
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DiamondPro

Jan 7, 2011, 8:57 PM
What can lte do that wimax cannot? From a phone standpoint?
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Menno

Jan 7, 2011, 9:00 PM
And who the hell is talking about Wimax?

That's right, only you.

This is a discussion about LTE and HSPA+. NOT wimax.
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Azeron

Jan 7, 2011, 9:12 PM
Damn.
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DiamondPro

Jan 7, 2011, 9:59 PM
You did when u said this...
Menno said:
Saving money every month only matters if the service is equal


So I guess u believe Sprint is the better option atleast this statement does when combined with this one
Menno said:
And who the hell is talking about Wimax?

That's right, only you.

This is a discussion about LTE and HSPA+. NOT wimax.


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Menno

Jan 7, 2011, 10:10 PM
you posted in a thread talking about LTE and HSPA+.

I said how LTE was cheaper than HSPA+, you said it's cheaper for verizon, not the consumer.


I replied with what you quoted first. In case you missed the Memo, Tmobile is cheaper than even Sprint is.

I was ALWAYS talking about LTE and HSPA+. You're the one who's trying to turn this into some argument about Wimax when NO ONE BUT YOU is talking about it. Period. Believe it or not, since this is a VERIZON forum, we typically don't talk about wimax unless some sprint troll brings it up.

You're not worth debating with because whenever we give you evidence, you ignore it. You post "evidence' to support your claim and if by some miracle you're not posting tripe from a PR website,...
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CellStudent

Jan 7, 2011, 1:17 PM
First, the science:

The one big advantage HSPA+ has is that it's easy and cheap to deploy since it's mostly just a software upgrade (on the cell-site side). Its other advantage is that deploying HSPA+ does not make older handsets obsolete; an HSPA 3.6 Mbps handset works fine on a HSPA+ 42 Mbps tower network, so it's low maintenance in that respect, too.

LTE and WiMAX, on the other hand, are completely new developments requiring new antenna arrays, new spectrum, and new processors in each handset or modem out there. Deployment and setup costs are much higher, and there's no 'automatic' backward compatibility with existing technologies like iterations of HSPA deployments.

Also, there is an important financial metric call cost-per-bi...
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DiamondPro

Jan 7, 2011, 8:50 PM
Very good post bravo! One advatage wimax has over lte or aleast to my knowledge is triple play not sure if lte supports this yet
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CellStudent

Jan 7, 2011, 10:41 PM
DiamondPro said:
Very good post bravo! One advatage wimax has over lte or aleast to my knowledge is triple play not sure if lte supports this yet

What is this "triple play" you speak of?

I've never heard of it.
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DiamondPro

Jan 8, 2011, 5:40 PM
Its the provisioning of 3 services like highspeed internet, tv, and phone over the same broadband connection. The first two are very bandwith intensive and phones service requires very low latency.
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CellStudent

Jan 9, 2011, 2:25 AM
DiamondPro said:
Its the provisioning of 3 services like highspeed internet, tv, and phone over the same broadband connection. The first two are very bandwith intensive and phones service requires very low latency.

LTE outperforms WiMAX in every conceivable way I can think of. If WiMAX can do it, LTE can do it better.
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