This boggles my mind
Why do you criticize Cingular for being the largest only from buying AT&T? You complain that their growth was not natural & claim that Verizon's growth was natural.
Verizons growth was not natural. Here in my local market (DENVER) they had a merger with AirTouch. Verizon was not ever a glimmer in anyones eye before that.
This was the same with other companies also. I think that the only company that was an ORIGNAL carrier, for the 80's, was AT&T. Verizon came into existence the same way as Cingular, T-Mobile & other various carriers.
Please do not hate me for this post, it is just an observation.
So, Cingular becoming #1 is directly correlated to ATT merger and VZW's success has an indirect correlation to its many mergers.At&t just happened to be a very LARGE merger. Yes, Verizon had many LITTLE mergers... but a merger is a merger is a merger.
VZW's success has an indirect correlation to its many mergers.
Or... they are even worse, since they had to merge with MANY companies to gain that customer base. Its like the pot calling the kettle black or throwing stones in glass houses.
Now in all fairness, Verizon has had about 4 years to add those 20 million customers and the new Cingular has only had about 6 months. as the big dog on the block. Proba...
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bigdaddyjay said:
Cingular seems to take the Texas approach and thinks that they have just branded 21 million head of cattle from the ATT buyout and will be the best because they have more headcount!
How is it different? See the June 30, 2000 entry.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/aboutus/milestones.shtml »
Thanks to texaswireless for the link
This my friends is the Texas arrogance of Ed Whitacre and crew at SBC.
From what is going on it doesn't appear that having 50.4 million customers makes you the best wireless carrier. Cingy still has a higher churn rate, higher cash expense per customer, lower cash flow margin, ARPU that is trending downward and is adding less customers than VZW. But hey, it only cost 41 billion to say they are number 1!
Think what Verizon Wireless would be like if they spent half of wh...
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Pacific Bell Wireless, Cellular One, Ameritech, Bell South, SWB Wireless, Nevada Bell Wireless, Houston Cellular and (damn if I forget the eighth one) were all owned by two companies, Bell South and SBC. They merged them under one banner.
Now Verizon goes this way
http://www.verizonwireless.com/aboutus/milestones.shtml »
Does any of this matter. NO!
None of this boasting/taunting does anything to serve any customers, it just gives us all a warped sense of satisfaction.
schnozejt said:
I know your post is not directed to me, but I will try to attempt to answer your question. VZW didn't DIRECTLY become #1 by adding customers and towers, they worked at it. Cingular become #1 in customer base instanteously because of the merger. So, Cingular becoming #1 is directly correlated to ATT merger and VZW's success has an indirect correlation to its many mergers.
Wait a minute.
Didn't Verizon become number one instantaneously as well?
ATT was number one until Verizon was formed. Verizon has had the marketing power of claiming number one for a few years now.
Cingular is a younger company than Verizon and has accomplished much since it's birth.
True VZW was formed and was bigger than ATT but ATT and Cingular couldn't keep up with the growth that VZW displayed while they were number one and number one is only an Alltel or U.S. Cellular buyout away for Verizon if they wnt to take the easy way back to the top.
bigdaddyjay said:
Not really, Cingular only added around 4.5 million customers from January 2001 until October 2004 when they bought another 21 million customers that didn't want to be Cingular customers.
True VZW was formed and was bigger than ATT but ATT and Cingular couldn't keep up with the growth that VZW displayed while they were number one and number one is only an Alltel or U.S. Cellular buyout away for Verizon if they wnt to take the easy way back to the top.
Well, your statements are sort of true. You are just missing the fact that Cingular became number one through good business sense and now they are number one. The only way that Verizon will become number one anytime soon, is if someone a...
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Verizon Wireless was formed in April 2000. They were formed by combining Airtouch, Bell Atlantic, Ameritech Cellular/GTE Wireless and Primeco. By July of 2000 VZW had 24.5-25 million customers.
Cingular was formed by combining the wireless assets of SBC and Bell South interests. In January 2001 they had 20.2 million customers.
By the time October 2004 rolled around Cingular only grew to just under 25 million customers and Verizon was at over 41 million customers! Neither Cingular or Verizon made any large takeovers of smaller cell companies until the Cingular/ATT merger was approve in October 2004.
If you do the math you will s...
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