Very Interesting
Now that Cingular and ATT are one. What would the chances be for Verizon and TMobile merging? That would be great for Cingular and Verizon customers. They would then have the best of the two worlds. But, that could create a problem in California since Cingular and TMobile both share Cingular's cell sites and in New York Cingular shares TMobiles sites. At least that is what I have been lead to believe.
Dumb Dumb Dumb. I just renewed with Verizon for 2 years, but it maybe worth the $175 to switch to Cingular. Lots can happen in 6 months. At present, Verizon is still the best and could remain so even with this merger. If you are 2nd, you try harder. Let's hope Verizon tries real hard.
Dumb Dumb Dumb. I just renewed with Verizon for 2 years, but it maybe worth the $175 to switch to Cingular. Lots can happen in 6 months. At present, Verizon is still the best and could remain so even with this merger. If you are 2nd, you try harder. Let's hope Verizon tries real hard.
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t-mo and verizon merging, not a chance! there tech is not compatible, one would have to rebuild its infrastructure. and if you wanna switch to cing id say wait a good 6 months to a year. cause when they eventually intrgrate their would prolly be some network distruption doing so. wait till thats good and done.
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CDMA and GSM CAN MERGE. All that it would take is a phone that will do both. DUH! Just like TDMA (ATT) having a phone that does TDMA and GSM. There is a phone that Verizon will sell soon that will do CDMA in the States and GSM in Europe with Vodaphone. Nothing is impossible in this day.
It does not matter if you are rich or poor, as long as you have lots and lots of money.
Just a few years ago it was a dream to have a picture phone. We have come a long way. My first cellular handheld was big and cost over $1500.00 and people complain about having to pay a $175 cancellation fee to leave a contract after they get a phone for almost nothing. TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Funnnnnnnnnnnny.
It does not matter if you are rich or poor, as long as you have lots and lots of money.
Just a few years ago it was a dream to have a picture phone. We have come a long way. My first cellular handheld was big and cost over $1500.00 and people complain about having to pay a $175 cancellation fee to leave a contract after they get a phone for almost nothing. TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Funnnnnnnnnnnny.
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There is more chance of Verizon Buying out Sprint, Than Verizon buying T-mobile. It's a hell of a lot easier and cheaper to do that instead of trying to get Manufacturers to incorporate GSM and CDMA into one phone.
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big poppa WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? NO WONDER THEY FIRED YOU.
Verizon is getting or has a phone that does just that. GSM and CDMA. It will be used in this way: CDMA in the US and GSM when in Europe.
ATT has phones that do TDMA and GSM.
You don't think that the new merger will have phones that do Cingular GSM and ATT TDMA? Of course they will or what will all the ATT customers do, have only TDMA service while being a Cingular GSM customer?
Verizon is getting or has a phone that does just that. GSM and CDMA. It will be used in this way: CDMA in the US and GSM when in Europe.
ATT has phones that do TDMA and GSM.
You don't think that the new merger will have phones that do Cingular GSM and ATT TDMA? Of course they will or what will all the ATT customers do, have only TDMA service while being a Cingular GSM customer?
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Who really cares?? But as a said, it would be cheaper for Verizon to buy Sprint.. Verizon has no intrest in aquiring a GSM carrier. And if they did, they would most likely convert thier network in CDMA from GSM instead of coming out with hybrid phones..
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GENIUS...there is NO WAY in HELL that Verizon and Tmobile are merging. EVER. So stay off these post with your GSM/CDMA compatibility ramblings. You hurt my head.
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um attws does both gsm & tdma. as a matter of fact attws rolled out gsm before cing.
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UM DUH.. nice that TDMA and GMS kinda work hand in hand. TDMA is dead, GSM is horrible. CDMA can do A LOT more than GSM. Not to mention CDMA has a much MuCH lower dropped call rate than GMS.
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UM DUH.. nice that TDMA and GMS kinda work hand in hand. TDMA is dead
the whole point of that post was becuase there was no mention of attws & gsm on the previous post. i do agree about tdma being dead (well it's dying), but so is cdma. 😁
GSM is horrible..
like ANY of the other technologies there are lots of factors that can make it good or bad. where i live gsm is much better then tdma or even cdma.
CDMA can do A LOT more than GSM.
yeah it can, cdma can drop more calls, get crappier rececption, and no matter what COSTS more to pay for the propriety license to use cdma.
Not to mention CDMA has a much MuCH lower dropped call rate than GMS.<...
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you're an idiot! please find me ANYTHING published that Sprints Network is better than VZW. FIND me something that says that GSM's handoff is SOFT. Then find your head in your ass and pull it out!
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wow, did your daddy help you type that out or was he too busy bending your mom-aunt over?
live in your own world, the rest of us will live in reality.
live in your own world, the rest of us will live in reality.
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What you just said that Sprint is better than Verizon. What the hell are you on. You need to stop smoking what eva sh*t you smokin. Now I usely never make a comment comparing 2 companies network - because you may get two diferent quality at diferent place. You really said something unbelievable. I am a former Sprint custumer. I live in metro Atlanta. One of the major city's in the US. Sprint service was Sh*tty. Verizon Works the best hands on. F what ya heard.
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trey1475 said:
What you just said that Sprint is better than Verizon. What the hell are you on. You need to stop smoking what eva sh*t you smokin. Now I usely never make a comment comparing 2 companies network - because you may get two diferent quality at diferent place. You really said something unbelievable. I am a former Sprint custumer. I live in metro Atlanta. One of the major city's in the US. Sprint service was Sh*tty. Verizon Works the best hands on. F what ya heard.
i don't smoke anything. here in the st. louis area, everyone i know who HAD vzw has left them and went to someone else, including sprint (most when to gsm). you guys really need to get off this brainwashed crap that vzw is really that ...
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Why would VZW want a company with churn rates that are in the top 5? There would also be a licensing problem because Verizon and T-Mobile compete in too many markets. What will be interesting is to see if Cingular will be forced to forfeit licenses because they could end up with as much as 75MHZ of bandwidth in many markets. Hopefully the FCC will be as fair minded about this as they were during the Verizon merger when the GTE and Primeco properties were forced to be sold off because Verizon owned licenses on another band
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they will have to sell of their licenses where they are both the a side and the b side carrier. That is due to the FCC. and they uphold that. New equipment might not be needed for some people but they will probably push people into the new equipment in the near future
Coverage is the biggest variable in the cellular industry. So loosing customers to coverage is a big thing. What good is a phone even if it is 10.00 cheaper a month if when it counts on you using it your out of area. that is a big thing.
Coverage is the biggest variable in the cellular industry. So loosing customers to coverage is a big thing. What good is a phone even if it is 10.00 cheaper a month if when it counts on you using it your out of area. that is a big thing.
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Verizon and T-mobile will never merge with anyone its just not what they have in mind, unless htey will buy some one out and be the buyer. that's the only way
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johnstonhurd said:
Verizon and T-mobile will never merge with anyone its just not what they have in mind, unless htey will buy some one out and be the buyer. that's the only way
SO THEN IT COULD BE POSSIBLE. NEVER SAY NEVER. MERGER, BUY OUT. SAME END RESULT.
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Why in the world would VZW buy T-Mobile. That doesn't make sense to anyone except you. Yeah, okay-- you can create a phone that works on both networks... but why would you want two networks to begin with? Cingular and AT&T had both only because they wanted to eventually convert all of their TDMA to GSM. VZW is not looking to make a transition into GSM, so why would they even comtemplate buying a GSM provider? That's double the cost, double the maintenance, double the testing, etc. That makes no business sense. And they certainly wouldn't do it just to get back to being the "Largest Carrier." An example of having business sense would be for VZW to lay low for the next year or two and continue to increase their market share and revenue...
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I just love it when someone with a logical line of thought posts on here. AND he has a cool name. A'ight Al!
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It is much more likely that VZW would buy Sprint. There have been rumors in the past, but nothing ever happened. I am not saying to will ever happen, but it would be the likely way to go. I am sure that Sprint customers would feel like they found the promised land if that were to ever happen.
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Geez, you never know these days...Verizon could find a way to merge with sprint and for those who say "never".....hhmmm...I never thought attws would merge with anyone. You just never can tell these days
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Not only think about the Nextel PTT customers, but think how that COULD improve Verizon's PTT service. Right now in Ohio, it sucks!
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I think it pretty much sucks everywhere, to slow to start if it starts at all. TechTV did a side by side by side comparison w/ nextel, vzw's ptt and sprint's ready-link. The nextel was fastest to transmit S.F. to D.C., but sounded bad, sprint started slower, but kept up once started and sounded a ton better, VZW's didn't even connect and it was conducted in a office building next to a floor to ceiling window! I think that, along w/ an unattractive phone is why VZW isn't making a dent in the PTT market.
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IN Wireless Week, there was an article in there about the PTT services from Alltel, Nextel, Sprint & Verizon, and this is the following:
Setup times:
Alltel - 2.4-3.2 seconds
Nextel - 0.9 - 1.0 seconds
Sprint - 3.6-9.8 seconds
Verizon - 6.2-7.8 seconds
Compartive Time Delay Times: (Volley Times)
Alltel -
Setup times:
Alltel - 2.4-3.2 seconds
Nextel - 0.9 - 1.0 seconds
Sprint - 3.6-9.8 seconds
Verizon - 6.2-7.8 seconds
Compartive Time Delay Times: (Volley Times)
Alltel -
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hmm..... So their are people that still think cingular and at&t will make a good network. hmm..... verry interesting.
Do you read consumer reports?
both companies rate below verizon in customer service dropped calls waiting to connect and busy signals. Their networks are simular but still different. the merger is not going to give all that much different coverage since they are romming partners anyways. So if you have cingular or at&t the product wont improve you will just be forced into buying new equipment once again to take advantage of the new network.
You Speak like verizon will do anything different because of, or be "scared" of this merger/ buy out.
I have been in sales since 1998 and I have sold cellular one, at&t, alltel, N...
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Do you read consumer reports?
both companies rate below verizon in customer service dropped calls waiting to connect and busy signals. Their networks are simular but still different. the merger is not going to give all that much different coverage since they are romming partners anyways. So if you have cingular or at&t the product wont improve you will just be forced into buying new equipment once again to take advantage of the new network.
You Speak like verizon will do anything different because of, or be "scared" of this merger/ buy out.
I have been in sales since 1998 and I have sold cellular one, at&t, alltel, N...
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I don't work for AT&T or Cingular, but I do work for T-Mobile. We have roaming agreements with both of these companies, but do to cost, we only have agreements in places where the our own service does not work, that I believe is true for AT&T and Cingular as well. That means combined the GSM in city coverage should become much tighter and is likely to be better then Verizon's.
GSM networks are not similar, they are the same. No new equipment is going to be needed. Data services might be one exception.
For the record, I'm a retention rep, and everyday I talk to people who say verizon's coverage sucks. The only time I really lose customers because of verizon's coverage is when they are needing to roam and take advantage of the analog ne...
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GSM networks are not similar, they are the same. No new equipment is going to be needed. Data services might be one exception.
For the record, I'm a retention rep, and everyday I talk to people who say verizon's coverage sucks. The only time I really lose customers because of verizon's coverage is when they are needing to roam and take advantage of the analog ne...
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