max $150ish

Envy2 or the new casio boulder. Both are pretty full featured and should hold up for a while.

Got it....thanks 🙂

How do you feel about the Dare and the Voyager?.....for some reason I really like the Voyager, is the ENVY2 better?

I have always gone for Motorola phones in the past but always end up regretting my choice. ☹️

voyager has gotten some pretty mixed reviews. I think its a little too big personally.

Stay away from moto, LGs tend to work best with verizons network. But the Casio boulder works pretty well (my friend has one). I would also recommend reading the reviews on this site. They are very helpful when picking a device.

I have been reading the reviews, but people love or hate each phone, and for different reasons...so it's kind of hard to really gauge the ratings.

For some reason I can't seem to get used to the idea of a Casio phone, although their watches are pretty good quality...at least until they decided to start making them in China.

You are right, I saw the Voyager and it is a bit too big for me to put it in my pocket...like I do with my god awful Razr v3m.

How about the Dare?

Ive had two friends with the dare and both dont like it. I have used it several times and its really hard to type on. If you text a lot, you prolly wont really like the phone.

The boulder is a good looking phone and its ruggedized so it should last a while.

The Dare is a really nice phone...The enV2 is weird looking and chips and looks cheap after a while although I guess it's a decent enough phone. I would not say the enV2 is better than the Dare OR Voyager. The Dare is smaller than the Voyager but even without an actual keypad, the touch screen is decent and I think works well.