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VZW to start offering Month to Month contracts.

irie

Sep 10, 2008, 10:11 AM
As of 9/21/08 The Big Red (Verizon Wireless) is gonna be offering customers who buy Full Retail or use their own equipment no contract plans. These customers will be offered the same line up of plans and features as contractual customers. This is definatly gonna change the industry and customers should be very happy. Now there is no excuse that you have to always sign a contract. Just fork up the money and you will be contract free. You heard it here first.

-Irie-
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cwcanty

Sep 10, 2008, 10:34 AM
That rocks! I think a lot of people will be pretty happy about this. I really wish this is how the phone industry worked. Just charge more for devices, but take away the contracts. I think this is how things will be eventually, but it will take a while.
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texaswireless

Sep 10, 2008, 4:52 PM
I do not think we will see a stampede of customers rushing to choose a carrier with no contract. Regardless of your choice in carrier AT&T has offered this for some time and most all prefer the lower priced handset.

I think this will force customers to make a true choice and will hopefully give regulators something better to do with their time.
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dmack

Sep 11, 2008, 6:49 PM
I just added a new line of service to my plan in July using a phone I already had, and I was required to sign a 2 year contract. They said I could get a new phone at discounted pricing within the first 6 months of the contract. There wasn't an option for "no contract" by using an existing phone or purchasing at full retail.
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dmack

Sep 11, 2008, 6:50 PM
BTW, I'm with AT&T
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texaswireless

Sep 11, 2008, 7:02 PM
But you work for Verizon. Are you trying to be a troll or do you have a legitimate concern?
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mellowlen62

Sep 11, 2008, 7:54 PM
Troll? I think not. He was trying to say AT&T has NOT offered this for "some time" because it wasn't offered to him...
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dmack

Sep 11, 2008, 8:01 PM
Thank you. Not trolling here, just saying this hasn't been an option with AT&T for some time.
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dmack

Sep 11, 2008, 8:37 PM
by texaswireless Today, 7:02 PM

But you work for Verizon. Are you trying to be a troll or do you have a legitimate concern?



I'm well aware of that. Did you not read the previous post? The AT&T rep said this has been offered by AT&T for some time. My example discredited his post.
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dmack

Sep 11, 2008, 8:40 PM
oops...this post is to reply to "yeahright"
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texaswireless

Sep 11, 2008, 10:35 PM
AT&T has publicly acknowledged, before Verizon, that they offer no contract options on all their plans. If you were told you had to sign an agreement and had your own equipment I would print out their own press release and take it to your local corporate store to have the agreement adjusted. You can also print out the recent WSJ article on the fate of ETF's and current government attempts at regulation as another example of AT&T's own admission of this policy.

Since it appears you were looking to discredit the information as untrue rather than trying to resolve your own problem my original skepticism holds true.

I am pleased at Verizon's decision for the simple fact that I do not want to give the government any reason to regulate the...
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texaswireless

Sep 11, 2008, 10:27 PM
Except that he works for Verizon which is why I asked for clarification. Cpnsidering the tone with which most people post lately causing a stir is more important than being informative.
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dmack

Sep 12, 2008, 1:21 PM
I understand, and agree with your point of view. I think it's an excellent choice for these 2 carriers to have this option. I love my AT&T service, I've had them for about 5 years and don't plan on leaving anytime soon. I don't have Verizon b/c I live in an extended area, so my number isn't portable. ๐Ÿคจ In any case, it's a great option and hopefully other carriers will catch on.
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texaswireless

Sep 12, 2008, 2:58 PM
If you legitimately have that service I would suggest contacting the store where it was purchases first and go from there. If you received no other consideration for a 2 year agreement you didn't need to sign one.
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yeahright

Sep 11, 2008, 8:26 PM
Your post makes 0 sense, this is the Verizon forum you know
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texaswireless

Sep 11, 2008, 10:46 PM
How ignorant you are to think this decision does not have industry wide implications.
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yeahright

Sep 14, 2008, 8:42 AM
How ignorant are you, that post makes even less sense. I was referring to you calling a Verizon person a troll in the Verizon forum...that makes 0 sense
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dmack

Sep 14, 2008, 12:51 PM
dude, chill out and make ur posts more clear. ๐Ÿ‘ฟ
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yeahright

Sep 14, 2008, 7:13 PM
Hey dmack to be clear I was simply stating he shouldn't call you a troll for thinking you were with Verizon in the Verizon forum...is that more clear? So he called me ignorant...I am perfectly chilled.

On topic I persoanlly have not signed a contract for years, i have been eligible to upgrade since early 2006, it is about time Verizon switched to this it should be law for every carrier to offer this IMO.
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dmack

Sep 14, 2008, 7:18 PM
I see. Sorry for the mixup guys. I appreciate the backup on that btw. I agree, I think VZW should also switch to this.
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texaswireless

Sep 14, 2008, 7:24 PM
If clearing the air is truly important to you then perhaps you should re-read my original reply to dmack. Considering the general tone of many of the posters I was curious as to his intent, troll or honesty. His profile contradicted his post and it was absolutely reasonable to question his motives. Even in your post above you still did not get correct the reason for my request for clarity. He explained and additional information was offered by me to try and help resolve his issue. According to his post on AT&T forums his issue was resolved to his benefit.
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yeahright

Sep 14, 2008, 7:33 PM
Read the time I posted that and the time of your reply... You need to take a Valium. I posted the original against you before you clarified your remark. It read to me like an at&t person slamming a verizon person accusing him of being a troll in the Verizon forum. As you know this crap happens all the time in this forum so it annoyed me. After reading your later post I realize that was not the case, but as I said I posted the original remark before seeing your follow up posted so relax, I simply jumped the gun on you, sorta of what you did to him so we were all mislead. I would have not even mentioned anything if your follow up had already been up.
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texaswireless

Sep 14, 2008, 7:38 PM
Fair enough.
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dmack

Sep 14, 2008, 7:37 PM
Yes, my issue has been partially resolved. My upgrade date didn't get changed but I was finally able to upgrade one of my phones. The 2nd upgrade date still needs to get changed, but it's no big deal at this time. And TxWrl, just so you know, I'm not an a*s, not trolling, just simply providing information. I understand where you get your perception of many people on this forum, as I tend to agree that most people come on here just to troll. People really need to find better things to do. Thanks to all you posters who actually try to provide information needed by others rather than provide accurate and essential information. ๐Ÿ˜
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texaswireless

Sep 14, 2008, 7:42 PM
It is good to see someone with an open mind.

Not to hijack this too much but the best course of action for your second line (that is the one for which you used your own phone right?) is to have the contract removed entirely. They cannot technically change the upgrade date because you are only able to get a new phone at the discount if you get it where you signed up for the service. That store was paid the commission and must honor the discounted handset. The further you get away from the activation date the worse your chances are of redeeming that discount.

You are better off making them remove the agreement and signing a new 2 year when you actually are ready to get the new phone.

Good luck!
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dmack

Sep 14, 2008, 8:06 PM
Good idea. Yea it was the 2nd line. It sounds like I got hussled by someone who just wanted commission on a new 2 year contract. It's all good though, I still have the paperwork given to me when I added the new line, so I'll head back there to have the contract removed. Thanks for the info! ๐Ÿ˜
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texaswireless

Sep 14, 2008, 3:17 PM
You really need to mind your own business. Ever the OP thinks you need to chill!
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dmack

Sep 14, 2008, 6:28 PM
If I'm not mistaken, this forum is for opinions of the users of this site. Ain't nobody up in ur biz dude. ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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Matt_a

Sep 10, 2008, 11:28 AM
That would be great, but I personally don't see a big advantage to it for me if the monthly plan has the same price. Here's an example.

Option one: I go sign up to a new 2-year contract and get a phone either really cheap or free and pay $100 a month for my plan.

Option two: I pay $200 for the same phone and still pay $100 a month for my plan.

The only advantage I see is the freedom to jump ship early if I want to. I can do that now and the ETF would still be less than the full retail price of most phones. Am I missing something?
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sangyup81

Sep 10, 2008, 11:32 AM
right, there's almost no advantage financially but because of the way customers can be able commitments, let them have the option right?
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dave73

Sep 10, 2008, 12:34 PM
Now if the governemnt gets their way on the ETF's, the pro-rated ETF will be based on the retail value of the phone, and not a set rate, that goes down each month a few dollars.

But other than that, the no contract offer will be good for some people, especially those who want no contracts, and can change phones more often.
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tnt2k1

Sep 10, 2008, 4:10 PM
Watch the government start regulating the full retail price of the phone.
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texaswireless

Sep 10, 2008, 4:54 PM
WSJ reported that regulators are easing up, for now, on their ETF witch hunt. This will only relieve the pressure more so. #1 and #2 carriers offer no contract options for customers and ETF only if customer accepts a discount on a phone. Hard to have a valid complaint with those choices.
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irie

Sep 10, 2008, 12:55 PM
I agree with you Matt_a. But a lot of customers don't get that point. Almost 90+ percents of phones has over $200 difference between 2 year sale price and full retail price. Take my Blackberry phone for instance. $429.99 full retail, $99.99 after $50 rebate. Take the $329.99 buy some accessories, buy a few drinks and put the rest in a savings account to pay your termination fee when you don't get your way.

Even take a lower end Coupe, 2 year price is $19.99 and full retail is $189.99. That's a difference of $160. With pro-rated termination fees it still doesn't make sunse to pay full retail just because you are scared of commitment.

Either way the main point in this all is that those people now have an option, no matter how foolish i...
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trucksmoveamerica

Sep 17, 2008, 7:42 AM
You are correct to a point on this, if you pay full retail for a phone at verizon, you can do a contract and pay the ETF later and still be cheaper.

The benefit to this no contract thing is if you bring your own equipment to the table. There are other sources to getting phones, friends have one laying around, and of course there is ebay, craigs list, which has some risk to it, but in most cases if you buy from a reputable seller you are fine. And you can buy new unused phones on ebay for $100 less then what verizon sells them for.

So, I would say this is a real benefit for the one's that bring their own equipment.
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llama

Sep 10, 2008, 2:17 PM
would they still get free nights, weekends and M2M?

I mean, 450 minutes for $39.99, no promotional time...
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texaswireless

Sep 10, 2008, 4:49 PM
It is about time.

AT&T has been offering these for some time. Anything to get the regulators off our back and put the responsibility of choice back to the consumer.

Thanks for the update.
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AvgJoe

Sep 17, 2008, 4:05 PM
texaswireless said:
It is about time.

AT&T has been offering these for some time. Anything to get the regulators off our back and put the responsibility of choice back to the consumer.

Thanks for the update.


However you do not get the SAME services if I remember correctly. No Nights and weekends...something is eliminated form the plan without a contract on ATT>
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BLEDSOE

Sep 17, 2008, 4:58 PM
wrong. It did used to be that way nearly 3 years ago..however now..you get THE SAME PLANS.

I SAY AGAIN....


THE SAME PLANS...WHETHER YOU BUY A PHONE AND GET A CONTRACT OR PROVIDE A PHONE AND DO NOT GET A CONTRACT. THE MAIN DIFFERENCE...AN AUTHORIZED DEALER IS NOT GOING TO WANT TO ACTIVATE YOU AT NO CONTRACT..THEY DON'T GET PAID.SO GO TO A CORP STORE.
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sunshinegirl

Sep 11, 2008, 1:05 PM
I don't think it'll make a big difference. Think about it. You spend $300 to $400 retail on a phone have service for a month or two, switch carriers then you're stuck with a phone you just blew hundreds on and you can't activate it on any other network. I, for one, don't mind contracts. Been with verizon for years, worked for them for years, I'm not going ANYWHERE!
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SEM

Sep 11, 2008, 1:59 PM
This, combined with an "open network", will be a huge! Think about it, someone has a phone with another carrier, wants to go to verizon, they can do it on a month to month basis with their current phone. Almost no out of pocket expense.
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mellowlen62

Sep 11, 2008, 8:00 PM
It says a lot when a company has to "lock" its customers into a two year contract to "keep" them as customers. The whole industry is ridiculous. And let's face it, many of these phones are simply not worth a price tag above $100. No matter what network.
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maverick96

Sep 17, 2008, 9:54 AM
irie said:
As of 9/21/08 The Big Red (Verizon Wireless) is gonna be offering customers who buy Full Retail or use their own equipment no contract plans. These customers will be offered the same line up of plans and features as contractual customers. This is definatly gonna change the industry and customers should be very happy. Now there is no excuse that you have to always sign a contract. Just fork up the money and you will be contract free. You heard it here first.

-Irie-


I have read that Verizon is still going to require a credit check even with the no contract. This doesnt make sense to me.
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llama

Sep 17, 2008, 10:42 AM
Why not? You can run up a HUGE overcall charge...or texting...
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AvgJoe

Sep 17, 2008, 3:58 PM
irie said:
As of 9/21/08 The Big Red (Verizon Wireless) is gonna be offering customers who buy Full Retail or use their own equipment no contract plans. These customers will be offered the same line up of plans and features as contractual customers. This is definatly gonna change the industry and customers should be very happy. Now there is no excuse that you have to always sign a contract. Just fork up the money and you will be contract free. You heard it here first.

-Irie-

KUDOS Verizon...
It's about time. This shows Verizon's confidence in their customer base and the continuance of income. I hope it gets to a pint where phone sales are completely separate from service.

No one will be paying full r...
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WHATEVERWORKS

Sep 20, 2008, 10:45 PM
THANKS!
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tgoace

Sep 21, 2008, 4:47 PM
Yes.
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jwadec

Sep 23, 2008, 8:21 PM
I just signed a new 2 yr contract 2 months ago. Is there anyway to get out of it or is it too late? I would like to go month-month if there is any way possible. thanks!
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mekong77

Sep 23, 2008, 11:58 PM
nope. you must serve out the remainder of your existing contract term first.
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