"It's the Network" . . . Hmmm...Not so much anymore guys...
Years ago when cell phone useage was just exploding, some networks had really crappy coverage, others had great coverage (started off Sprint was better than Verizon took hold of the better coverage reigns) and all networks could charge an arm and a leg for minutes, coverage was really important for a lot of people and even if coverage wasn't a huge issue for folks because costs were similar across the board (a plan for every budget with most providers basically) the other thing people wanted was good customer service. The economy was strong, people could afford a bit more for better coverage and better customer service.
Verizon became and is King...
Now here we ar...
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I dont think anyone in here needs a price lesson or an update on the housing market or rising oil costs. WE ALL KNOW.
If you want to leave to save money...just go. You don't to announce it to the whole phonescoop world. We don't care, none of us are loosing sleep knowing that you ported to an inferior carrier. Just take your money and go.
And verizon doesn't want to be the cheapest carrier. Look where sprint is right now? They are in huge financial trouble and now they have to give away the farm just to attract customers. They have a failing business model ...
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I also posted a cancellation fee question which luckily didn't turn into that, at least not in a big way but a sprint sucks person did manage to chime in anyway even though I specifically asked those replying not to chime in the Sprint sucks responses.
Lastly I figured what the heck, get a discussion going about pricing in relation to the economy, etc, see what people have to say about it which would only make sense that I put my two cents in to start.
And here I get a VZW police telling me quite literally to quietly go away?
Wow...
As a consumer that believes in and supports a competitive market place is LITERALLY IS my duty (if I care about the company or subject at hand) to voice my opinion, kudos or complaints in a forum such as this.
If you prefer no compet...
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I just dont see the point in these posts, all they do is cause flame wars and the last thing this forum needs is more flame wars.
And if you're so happy with sprint, go to the sprint forum and share you stories, im sure they would love to hear all about it. They could prolly use some cheering up over there.
But if you want the true decision makers at VZW to pay attention, I would not waste my time here. They have options for customer to voice their concerns directly to them where they can actually do some good. Yes, I am sure the legal team keeps an ey...
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phonefan1 said:...
Let me see if this makes sense to you. You come into the Verizon forum and make repeated post about how you are going to Sprint and that Verizon is too expensive. Ok- that's cool we get it. Where the problem comes in is that while you are offended when someone does not "respect" your opinion, you get upset. Basically, you are doing the same thing. So, if you can't afford your phone bill or mortgage, we get it too, times are tough. Go to a carrier that will work for you. No problem there.
But if you want the true decision makers at VZW to pay attention, I would not waste my time here. They have options for customer to voice their concerns directly to them where they can actually do some good. Yes,
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Second, who says I haven't sent a feedback communications to VZW about their pricing?
Third, if you truly think that there is no one at VZW looking at these posts for customer satisfaction information you are dead wrong. This and forums like this are a GOLD MINE for them in terms of seeing what customers are saying, thinking etc about their services.
You don't like me saying what I'm saying? Too bad...get over it.
sdgmcdon said:
You don't like me saying what I'm saying? Too bad...get over it.
Wow ...that was quite a zinger! No need to get all nasty.
I never said I did not like you saying what you said, I simply said I disagreed with your logic.
I am sure you will do well at Sprint! From reading your post, it will be a perfect fit and you will get what you deserve from your service provider.
Peace
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Actually these forums serve as an outlet, source and exchange of information for those interested in the topic at hand. They are also I'm quite sure reviewed regularly by the companies the forum thread is related to. So if those companies monitor these threads, which they do, and come across threads continually mentioning people leaving or considering leaving because of the high cost of their services, economic reasons etc the chances of said companies making improvements within their companies increases.
As a consumer that believes in and supports a competitive market place is LITERALLY IS my duty (if I care about the company or subject at hand) to voice my opinion, kudos or complaints in a forum such a
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sdgmcdon said:
I posted about a roaming question...The "Sprint Sucks" crowd chimed in and turned that question into that.
The problem is that Trolls make fake posts to incite riots within the forums. It's best to ignore the trolls and the people retalliating against them. I did notice that you at least read my post in the roaming question thread, but you are right that the post got hijacked.
But, it doesn't help your case to post about you porting out. It just adds fuel to the fire, as the post has no point. Posts about cancellation fees and roaming questions are fine because they provide information, but posts like this are the reason why people post stuff like "Sprint sucks" in response to your othe...
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sdgmcdon said:
I posted about a roaming question...The "Sprint Sucks" crowd chimed in and turned that question into that.
I also posted a cancellation fee question which luckily didn't turn into that, at least not in a big way but a sprint sucks person did manage to chime in anyway even though I specifically asked those replying not to chime in the Sprint sucks responses.
Lastly I figured what the heck, get a discussion going about pricing in relation to the economy, etc, see what people have to say about it which would only make sense that I put my two cents in to start.
And here I get a VZW police telling me quite literally to quietly go away?
Wow...
Get used to it CWANTY is VErizon biggest de...
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I dont need to hear every other day about someone leaving. Just go, and start posting in your new carriers forum.
stop clogging up this forum with the same stupid price comparissons. Everyone in here knows that sprint is cheaper, and if we wanted to leave, we would.
Chris
Even if someone DOES know the exact same thing has already been said, another post on the topic is simply viewed as another "vote" for lack of a better word on the subject. For me personally, I'm not bashing Verizon, I truly hope that with enough people voicing this concern on pricing Verizon will react and do something about it. If no one said anything about it Verizon wouldn't know it's an issue.
You don't like reading about it? Then don't read it....read the oth...
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I understand you are just sharing your views, and quite frankly, you have the right to do so. I guess personally i just dont see the point in writing a long post about why you're leaving. Like I said before, people in this forum are reasonably knowledgeable and don't need a listen on price and the economy.
It's just the same old tired post threating to leave, or actually leaving. Next time, I'll take your advice and just scroll down to the next post.
...It happens.
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Listen, everyone in here knows that verizon is not the cheapest, but their prices are on par with ATT who is their chief rival in terms of coverage and market penetration.
I dont think anyone in here needs a price lesson or an update on the housing market or rising oil costs. WE ALL KNOW.
If you want to leave to save money...just go. You don't to announce it to the whole phonescoop world. We don't care, none of us are loosing sleep knowing that you ported to an inferior carrier. Just take your money and go.
And verizon doesn't want to be the cheapest carrier. Look where sprint is right now? They are in huge financial trouble and now they have to give away the farm just to attract customers. T
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cwcanty said:
If you want to leave to save money...just go. You don't to announce it to the whole world. We don't care, none of us are loosing sleep knowing that you ported to an inferior carrier. Just take your money and go.
If only we can say this to customer...if only.
sdgmcdon said:
And that's exactly my point. A lot of people these days don't have the luxury of spending more for a little better service and I suspect it will start to hurt Verizon if they don't adjust to the times. AT&T has similar high pricing, but they also have rollover, which in our case would have kept us from seeing $500/month bills 2 months in a row as we had a lot of minutes through the winter and spring that were un-used. AT&T also has the attraction of phones as well (iPhone etc) over Verizon. Verizon's only justification for their higher prices is "the network" and it use to be worth it, but not anymore.
Used to be worth it but not anymore???? Maybe in your opinion. Regardeless STOP flaming wi...
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The economy isn't an issue on peoples minds?
The majority of folks out there have plenty of money to spend?
VZW doesn't charge significantly more for their services than their competition?
With JUST THOSE THREE things said (which are true, all of them by the way) it's not reasonable to assume that VZW's higher pricing will start to erode their customer base? ...Hmmm...Oh wait...it already HAS done that.
http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/4/verizon_q1_vz_ »
(25% fewer new customers than previous quarter)
Opinion portrayed as fact? Wake up and smell reality.
By the way, I'm not flaming or at least not intending too, I simply feel VZW is a good company a...
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If you read the article, it clearly states that Wireless is up 13/2% y/y. And with 1.19% overall churn, I am more than happy to see the addition of 1.5 million new customers on VZW.
I see that as a 500,000 person LOSS...
Maybe it's just my math?
I am sure real estate agents wish they could have those earnings in this market!
I know a bunch of people with Sprint now that are perfectly happy with them, they are 50% cheaper than VZW so I'm giving them a try...Maybe I'll be back, ...
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at first i agreed with you that VZW is more expensive and sprint has its plusses, which i still do to an extent. but now it seems that you just want to start a flame war.
**puts on flame suit so as not to get strunk by an collateral damage. sets out jiffy pop and grabs a cold beer......**
...I just couldn't help but to notice you're having to do that with 20% of the post's on the front page of VZW's own forum here.
20% of the posts on the first page of their own forum here are from people LEAVING (not even including my cancellation fee or roaming question posts) and that's good? That isn't descriptive of the problem with VZW when every single one of those posts cites their pricing as the problem?
Keep defending VZW...yeaaa!
Keep telling yourself they are worth all that extra cash...to you maybe.
I am done with him!
I don't know awhole lot but if Sprint is a big network in his area then it'll work out really well for him, along with being cheaper.
Everyone needs to learn to be a bit more unbias in responses. The OP was calm and gave us his story and didn't bash VZW, no need to bash the company he's going to.
"Oh, you're moving to England and getting Vodafone? Have fun with that terrible network and no mobile to mobile users to talk to."
I work for VZW, I'd love to see them stay, but you gotta open your mind before you just post "rabble rabble Sprint is crap, rabble!"
I have not been in any area where sprint is the dominant carrier. I also only know 1 person who has ATT and they have a lot of customers so idk.
Sprint is decent in my area, but not very many people have them.
sdgmcdon said:
I'm about to jump ship from Verizon to Sprint for ONE REASON - COST.
"It's the Network"?
It WAS the network; I suspect now it's more along the lines of "it's the cost Verizon i think is going to catch onto that only when it's too late.
Goodbye Verizon.
I have a Verizon Personal account (KRZR) and a work provided Sprint Blackberry.
All I can say is that there IS a big difference between the coverage and Verizon still wins hands down.
My Sprint phone drops calls for no good reason and very often I just use the VZ phone because the Sprint phone can't decide if it has 5 bars or none - all while I am standing still very close to the tower.
you think they guy will learn??? ๐คฃ ๐คฃ ๐คฃ ๐คฃ ๐คฃ ๐คฃ