Why do all the available Verizon phones suck!?
This has been a frustrating experience.
I've been struggling with my Motorola 180e for the past 2 years or so. About a year ago, the power connector on this phone stopped working about 90% of the time. When I want to charge the thing, I need to sit there for 20 minutes each time, carefully aligning, bracing and taping the phone until I get a power connection. Very often, I have to do this more than once a charge. I'm fed up and I want a new phone.
So I go to Verizon's phone offerings...and maybe it's me...but it appears that VZW's phone offerings are either cheap, introductory crap...or real expensive palm-like devices. And there's not many choices either!!!
I want a phone that gets good reception, has tri mode operation, sound...
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I've been struggling with my Motorola 180e for the past 2 years or so. About a year ago, the power connector on this phone stopped working about 90% of the time. When I want to charge the thing, I need to sit there for 20 minutes each time, carefully aligning, bracing and taping the phone until I get a power connection. Very often, I have to do this more than once a charge. I'm fed up and I want a new phone.
So I go to Verizon's phone offerings...and maybe it's me...but it appears that VZW's phone offerings are either cheap, introductory crap...or real expensive palm-like devices. And there's not many choices either!!!
I want a phone that gets good reception, has tri mode operation, sound...
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This was why I left Verizon last month for Cingular. No regrets.
Fyi> talk to your Verizon store to see if they'll turn up a phone you purchase from Sprint. Some posters say they will, others say it no longer happens. If I had known this before I switched carriers I would have tried this myself.
Sprint uses the same technology and has a much better phone selection, especially Nokia's.
Fyi> talk to your Verizon store to see if they'll turn up a phone you purchase from Sprint. Some posters say they will, others say it no longer happens. If I had known this before I switched carriers I would have tried this myself.
Sprint uses the same technology and has a much better phone selection, especially Nokia's.
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canddmeyer said:
This was why I left Verizon last month for Cingular. No regrets.
Fyi> talk to your Verizon store to see if they'll turn up a phone you purchase from Sprint. Some posters say they will, others say it no longer happens. If I had known this before I switched carriers I would have tried this myself.
Sprint uses the same technology and has a much better phone selection, especially Nokia's.
Oh well, things have changed. I see Sprint's Nokia selection is down to only two phones, so I'm adjusting my post. Just the same, if Verizon will activate a Sprint phone you find appealing, then consider that option.
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does anyone no for sure if Vz will activate a Sprint phone or is this a hit or miss situation?
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Actually, there's a bunch of VZW phones launching Feb. 1st or close to it- the LG VX-8000, the Samsung A-890, the Audiovox 8940. And Nokia has recently said they're going to make more CMDA phones for the North American market, which should benefit Verizon.
If none of that meets your needs, ah well, but the selection is getting better.
If none of that meets your needs, ah well, but the selection is getting better.
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BetterThanJake said:I eagerly await Nokia's high end models for Verizon (or at least I fantasize about what Nokia MIGHT deliver for Verizon).
Actually, there's a bunch of VZW phones launching Feb. 1st or close to it- the LG VX-8000, the Samsung A-890, the Audiovox 8940. And Nokia has recently said they're going to make more CMDA phones for the North American market, which should benefit Verizon.
If none of that meets your needs, ah well, but the selection is getting better.
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Yeah, that'd be cool. But I'm pretty happy already. My Samsung 530, a 'low-tech' straightforward phone, has performed wonderfully for me so far.
The original poster seems to have some odd ideas... even the lower-end VZW phones are pretty good, and the network of course is the best. Don't know what 'Samsung horror stories' he's heard, but mine's been pure buttah. đ
The original poster seems to have some odd ideas... even the lower-end VZW phones are pretty good, and the network of course is the best. Don't know what 'Samsung horror stories' he's heard, but mine's been pure buttah. đ
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BetterThanJake said:When it comes to CDMA phones, there is no 'Samsung horror story'. Besides Sanyo, I can't think of another carrier besides LG that makes better CDMA phones. The 530 is an excellent phone...especially the gold edition that came with the extended battery as a bonus. I always wonder why they included that. Does the standard batt...
Yeah, that'd be cool. But I'm pretty happy already. My Samsung 530, a 'low-tech' straightforward phone, has performed wonderfully for me so far.
The original poster seems to have some odd ideas... even the lower-end VZW phones are pretty good, and the network of course is the best. Don't know what 'Samsung horror stories' he's heard, but mine's been pure buttah. đ
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I think the original poster was talking about the samsung A310 horror stories. I have stories about just SELLING the phone to the customer and having it break when I took it out of the package!
What I find funny is that the two nokias that ran parallel with the mot-v120e have been extinct for several months now. The new nokia is the speakerphone based 6015.
LG having a bad rep?? I heard that from the kiosk today as well.. I think that kiosk worker was on something. LG is the #1 phone brand I sell. The TM510, LG4400 and later models have been incredible.
Personally I could give two flyings about how "cool" or "feature filled" a phone is. Can it ring, make calls and receive calls clear? Yes. Can it do text messaging? Yes. That is real...
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What I find funny is that the two nokias that ran parallel with the mot-v120e have been extinct for several months now. The new nokia is the speakerphone based 6015.
LG having a bad rep?? I heard that from the kiosk today as well.. I think that kiosk worker was on something. LG is the #1 phone brand I sell. The TM510, LG4400 and later models have been incredible.
Personally I could give two flyings about how "cool" or "feature filled" a phone is. Can it ring, make calls and receive calls clear? Yes. Can it do text messaging? Yes. That is real...
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Who needs a clock that also has a radio in it? A clock is for telling time. If I want a radio I'll get a radio. What AM and FM on one radio- you raving tech head.đ
What? Your car has a radio, a 12v outlet, adjustable seats, luggage rack and air conditioning? All most people want from a car is that it get them from point a to point b. Personally I could give two flyings about how "cool" or "feature filled" a car is. Can the engine start, the wheels role and the steering wheel steer? Yes. That is really all anyone needs a car for.đĄ
Today's tech convergent gadgets are becoming the defacto communication accessories. Wireless technology is usurping the old land-line paradigm. At the present rate there's no tellin...
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What? Your car has a radio, a 12v outlet, adjustable seats, luggage rack and air conditioning? All most people want from a car is that it get them from point a to point b. Personally I could give two flyings about how "cool" or "feature filled" a car is. Can the engine start, the wheels role and the steering wheel steer? Yes. That is really all anyone needs a car for.đĄ
Today's tech convergent gadgets are becoming the defacto communication accessories. Wireless technology is usurping the old land-line paradigm. At the present rate there's no tellin...
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muchdrama said:
The 530 is an excellent phone...especially the gold edition that came with the extended battery as a bonus. I always wonder why they included that. Does the standard battery wear down too quickly?
I have the grey 530 that came later... and that DIDN'T come with both batteries. But I later got the extended batt seperately.
Do you need it with the 530? Yeah, kinda. Battery life with the std batt isn't great. Talk time is ok, but I notice that if you fiddle with your phone a lot (i.e. screen is on), yeah, you can run down the standard pretty quickly.
With the extended its fine though. đ
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I really don't understand what you are talking about. First of all, LG and Samsung make some of the best CDMA phones available. The LG 4500 is a wonderful phone, but all digital. The LG 6100 is also great. It has a camera, but who cares? It's not expensive, and if you don't like it, don't use it. The Samsung a650 also fits all of your requirements, as does the LG 3200. The Nokia 6015i is the current model they are offering and it has only been around for a couple of months, so I'm not sure where you are getting your information. The older Nokia model is the 3589i, which if you can still find it is a superb phone. Your complaints really make no sense at all. Most people who complain about Verizon's phones are mad that they don't hav...
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Agree 100%. I've owned my LG 4400 for two years, best phone ever for me. Admittedly, Verizon doesn't have cool phones - I've been waiting for a good Palm-based flip phone for years. But as stated, Verizon has some great phones that focus on making good, clear calls.
I think stragegrey may not have had all the facts when he wrote his rant.
I think stragegrey may not have had all the facts when he wrote his rant.
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Admittedly, Verizon doesn't have cool phonesYes. Maybe to utter phone dorks like us. But to the other 41,999,999 customers in the US...I think Verizon's lineup is perfectly adequate. Verizon's entire lineup does what it's supposed to do...work.
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mk said:
I think stragegrey may not have had all the facts when he wrote his rant.
You're absolutely correct. I *don't* have all of the facts...and that's actually why I posted. After rereading my post, it certainly does read like a rant...but it's more like a cry for help.
If you dig deep enough, you will find horror stories about every damn phone that's sold...and I know that's a cliche...because I've specifically concerned with VZW phones, since that's my service provider, I dug deepest on VZW phones.
Having said that, the spirit of my post was very much in the vein of:
"3/4 of the phones offered don't work for my needs, the other 1/4 has some horror stories...tell me why I should disregard t...
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Well, considering that you diss Samsung, Motorola, and LG, it'd be closer to say that, in your opinion, "3/4 of the phones I've heard horror stories about, the other 1/4 don't meet my needs."
Don't know what to tell ya... if you think most of the major phone manufacturers stink, you're probably not going to find much to like. You also may not like the new Audiovox 8940, Samsung A890, or LG VX-8000, either because of the maker or because they're 'not straightforward enough' for you.
But for myself, I have no problems with VZW's lineup... several phones I like, lots of new phones being introduced. Can't really see how a 'cry for help' is necessary. *shrug*
Don't know what to tell ya... if you think most of the major phone manufacturers stink, you're probably not going to find much to like. You also may not like the new Audiovox 8940, Samsung A890, or LG VX-8000, either because of the maker or because they're 'not straightforward enough' for you.
But for myself, I have no problems with VZW's lineup... several phones I like, lots of new phones being introduced. Can't really see how a 'cry for help' is necessary. *shrug*
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BetterThanJake said:Verizon doesn't even offer a...
Well, considering that you diss Samsung, Motorola, and LG, it'd be closer to say that, in your opinion, "3/4 of the phones I've heard horror stories about, the other 1/4 don't meet my needs."
Don't know what to tell ya... if you think most of the major phone manufacturers stink, you're probably not going to find much to like. You also may not like the new Audiovox 8940, Samsung A890, or LG VX-8000, either because of the maker or because they're 'not straightforward enough' for you.
But for myself, I have no problems with VZW's lineup... several phones I like, lots of new phones being introduced. Can't really see how a 'cry for help' is necessary. *shrug*
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I guess it does....although it does sound like you're asking for more than the average person.
I've had Sprint, Cingular and Verizon (not T-Mobile), and Verizon's service is superior - no news there. They have some great phones that do what they're advertised - make calls and hold signal. I'll admit they don't have the perfect phone for me yet: flip, Palm, speakerphone. I'm still holding out though. We were teased with news about the Samsung i640/645 (Windows, but not a bad alternative to Palm), but I haven't heard anything in months.
I've had Sprint, Cingular and Verizon (not T-Mobile), and Verizon's service is superior - no news there. They have some great phones that do what they're advertised - make calls and hold signal. I'll admit they don't have the perfect phone for me yet: flip, Palm, speakerphone. I'm still holding out though. We were teased with news about the Samsung i640/645 (Windows, but not a bad alternative to Palm), but I haven't heard anything in months.
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I own and use my LG vx 6000 everyday! I have finished my contract with Vrz. So now I go month to month. My 6000 kicks a**! I have never had any regrets with this phone.
This phone is so good, that I might just pass on the Lg Vx 8000.
No Complaints Here!!!!!!
This phone is so good, that I might just pass on the Lg Vx 8000.
No Complaints Here!!!!!!
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Ditto for my LG 4400 - best phone I've had, 2 years and going strong. Who'd have known that LG would make such quality products!
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I agree. My NE2 is coming up soon and were it not for the fact that the cost of a new battery for it exceeds the cost of a new phone purchased under the NE2 program, plus the warranty that comes with a new phone, I'd stick with my 4400.
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Why cant they just put everything into one phone... bluetooth, nice camera, removable memory, speakerphone, EV-DO, the works...
instead of some phones that do half and other phones that do the other half.
instead of some phones that do half and other phones that do the other half.
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Why can't they make a phone that can act as a heart monitor, a thermometer, a flashlight, bluetooth, mp3 player, speakerphone, removable memory, 4.1 megapixel camera with an actual GOOD lense and optical zoom (not that digital junk)... hell, a mini-dv cam would be better. Ooh, and instead of just EV-DO they could have it do AMPS, CDMA, TDMA, GSM, W-CDMA, CDMA2000, HSDPA, EV-DO and even EV-DV for good measure? Am I asking for too much here people?
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well i dont think they can make that phone because my it would be too cool.
SHUT UP donkey lover
SHUT UP donkey lover
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seven_elevencj said:I've never trusted donkey lovers.
well i dont think they can make that phone because my it would be too cool.
SHUT UP donkey lover
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Well I want a phone to wipe my ass. Really people, there is only so much stuff they can cram in a phone and keep the size down. The reason that they dont make a phone like that is becuase nobody would buy a phone the size of a brick, at least not these days. In order to keep size and cost down, not all features can be implemented.
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PooFlinger1 said:
Really people, there is only so much stuff they can cram in a phone and keep the size down. The reason that they dont make a phone like that is becuase nobody would buy a phone the size of a brick, at least not these days. In order to keep size and cost down, not all features can be implemented.
That's true. Another dirty little secret of the tech industry is that battery technology hasn't exactly kept pace. Put everything and the kitchen sink into a phone, and give it the biggest brightest screen on the market, and watch your battery life go out the window. âšī¸
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BetterThanJake said:
That's true. Another dirty little secret of the tech industry is that battery technology hasn't exactly kept pace. Put everything and the kitchen sink into a phone, and give it the biggest brightest screen on the market, and watch your battery life go out the window. âšī¸
A similar issue is plaguing the auto industry as well--all these DVD systems, high end sound systems, power every-damned-thing that consumers expect is taxing the 12V electrical system to the snapping point. Delphi came up with a 39V battery that is the same size as the regular 12V ones, but it's not being marketed yet because there's resistance to changing over to a higher voltage system--there will be issues with...
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mycool said:
Why can't they make a phone that can act as a heart monitor, a thermometer, a flashlight, bluetooth, mp3 player, speakerphone, removable memory, 4.1 megapixel camera with an actual GOOD lense and optical zoom (not that digital junk)... hell, a mini-dv cam would be better. Ooh, and instead of just EV-DO they could have it do AMPS, CDMA, TDMA, GSM, W-CDMA, CDMA2000, HSDPA, EV-DO and even EV-DV for good measure? Am I asking for too much here people?
You forgot to add the following:
"And if VZW DOESN'T START OFFERING a phone that does ALL OF THE ABOVE, I'm LEAVING for another carrier!" đ
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BetterThanJake said:mycool said:
Why can't they make a phone that can act as a heart monitor, a thermometer, a flashlight, bluetooth, mp3 player, speakerphone, removable memory, 4.1 megapixel camera with an actual GOOD lense and optical zoom (not that digital junk)... hell, a mini-dv cam would be better. Ooh, and instead of just EV-DO they could have it do AMPS, CDMA, TDMA, GSM, W-CDMA, CDMA2000, HSDPA, EV-DO and even EV-DV for good measure? Am I asking for too much here people?
You forgot to add the following:
"And if VZW DOESN'T START OFFERING a phone that does ALL OF THE ABOVE, I'm LEAVING for another carrier!" đ
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mycool said:
Why can't they make a phone that can act as a heart monitor, a thermometer, a flashlight, bluetooth, mp3 player, speakerphone, removable memory, 4.1 megapixel camera with an actual GOOD lense and optical zoom (not that digital junk)...
This was posted by others (BigPhony) before:
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
It's true, though:
Bluetooth
Camera
Data-Capable
Expansion Card
Speaker Phone
These are the features that most people will want in a modern cell phone.
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wnrussell said:
It's true, though:
Bluetooth
Camera
Data-Capable
Expansion Card
Speaker Phone
These are the features that most people will want in a modern cell phone.
Most people?!
Most people on this site maybe. The majority of cell users don't care about most of that stuff (save a large segment that likes cameras and speakerphones).
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shadedpain4 said:Bwahah! Almost identical to my reply.wnrussell said:
It's true, though:
Bluetooth
Camera
Data-Capable
Expansion Card
Speaker Phone
These are the features that most people will want in a modern cell phone.
Most people?!
Most people on this site maybe. The majority of cell users don't care about most of that stuff (save a large segment that likes cameras and speakerphones).
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shadedpain4 said:wnrussell said:
Bluetooth
Camera
Data-Capable
Expansion Card
Speaker Phone
These are the features that most people will want in a modern cell phone.
Most people on this site maybe. The majority of cell users don't care about most of that stuff (save a large segment that likes cameras and speakerphones).
Don't you think that most people look down the road a bit when buying a new phone? My StarTac had text messaging, but when I wought it I never thought I would use it.
Now to say that a large segment likes cameras, that's great, but how do you get 50 megapixel pictures off the camera to develop them?
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wnrussell said:I don't thing that's what most people want for a moment. WE might want that...but most people? Nope. About the only thing on that list I can...mycool said:
Why can't they make a phone that can act as a heart monitor, a thermometer, a flashlight, bluetooth, mp3 player, speakerphone, removable memory, 4.1 megapixel camera with an actual GOOD lense and optical zoom (not that digital junk)...
This was posted by others (BigPhony) before:
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
It's true, though:
Bluetooth
Camera
Data-Capable
Expansion Card
Speaker Phone
These are the features that most people will want in a modern cell phone.
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put all of it on the phone for those who want it all... and for those who dont, they dont need to have all those features
damnit
damnit
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Not everyone wants those features, each person is different and has different tastes. Get this, some people aren't allowed to own a camera phone due to their job.
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so... since SOME people can not have cameras on their phone, Verizon should just not offer any camera phones?
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That's not what he was saying at all. He simply stated that some people have different tastes and may not WANT a camera phone, which is true. He also said that some ppl aren't allowed to have a camera phone at work, which is also true... as I can personally attest, since that is my company's policy.
So how do you make the leap from that to thinking he's advocating that Verizon should stop offering camera phones? Trust me, even if that's what he's advocating (and its obviously not), VZW is far too in love with their 'pix' messaging revenue to ever stop releasing camera phones.
So how do you make the leap from that to thinking he's advocating that Verizon should stop offering camera phones? Trust me, even if that's what he's advocating (and its obviously not), VZW is far too in love with their 'pix' messaging revenue to ever stop releasing camera phones.
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Let's see, you've eliminated Motorola, Samsung, LG, and Kyocera. There's not much left. The LG 6100 is a sweet phone, as is the Samsung a670. Give those a try. They're mid-range and are quite popular.
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Petition:
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Digg:
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Petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/ver...-carry-g-phone »
Digg:
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