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why it is better to add a line with att vs vzw..

Truth-Seeker

Jun 9, 2008, 10:52 PM
Okay lets say in situation A - you have two lines already with att. But you have ton of rollover minutes. You could simply add a line for 9.99 and over all, you do not have to increase the plan by 20.00 more so that the new users could use more minutes.

Situation B - You have two linse with vzw..same rate plan but since you don't have rollover you now do have to increase to the next plan by $20.00 more to gain more minutes.

So $199.99 for the new 3g iphone.. Come on down folks be part of the next best thing..
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phonefan1

Jun 9, 2008, 10:56 PM
"So $199.99 for the new 3g iphone.. Come on down folks be part of the next best thing"

NEXT BEST THING was correct. Definitely not the BEST thing!
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yeahright

Jun 9, 2008, 10:57 PM
🤣 ....Thunder!
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phonefan1

Jun 9, 2008, 11:30 PM
🤣
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vzman23

Jun 10, 2008, 1:26 AM
All that time before you were overpaying. It evens out. The rollover minutes rarely save the customer anything.
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60dollarcarcharger

Jun 10, 2008, 10:56 AM
he's assuming you'd even have to change your minutes when you add the line too. MORON
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tnt2k1

Jun 10, 2008, 11:36 AM
no guys. rollover is useful. we're just so stuck on the VZW pride that we don't look outside the box.

I look at my VZW bill all the time and I have about 300 minutes left over on my 1400 minute FSP. so I'm on the wrong plan? no because the next lower plan is 700 minutes. what gives? the fact that AT&T offers the same plan but you can carry over your minutes ... that is golden. admit it.

So after 4 months I want to add another line ... by that time I should have about 1200 minutes rolled over. instead of increasing my rate plan to take into account of the minutes that the new user would be using, I can just stay on my plan, have that new person slowly eat those minutes up and then change, saving myself some hard earned dollars.
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60dollarcarcharger

Jun 10, 2008, 11:51 AM
well if that user is using the same number of minutes you are, then you're only saving yourself one month... yes i understanding something is better than nothing, but the original assumption was that you would have to change your price plan with verizon and you wouldn't with att... if the new user can get by with your 300 extra min a month (due to the fact that they can call tons of people for free) then there really is no problem adding with vzw.

But i will say that you MAY have shown me a way in which rollover could be useful
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Truth-Seeker

Jun 10, 2008, 7:54 PM
bump . Well said
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AvgJoe

Jun 27, 2008, 9:15 AM
tnt2k1 said:
no guys. rollover is useful. we're just so stuck on the VZW pride that we don't look outside the box.

I look at my VZW bill all the time and I have about 300 minutes left over on my 1400 minute FSP. so I'm on the wrong plan? no because the next lower plan is 700 minutes. what gives? the fact that AT&T offers the same plan but you can carry over your minutes ... that is golden. admit it.

So after 4 months I want to add another line ... by that time I should have about 1200 minutes rolled over. instead of increasing my rate plan to take into account of the minutes that the new user would be using, I can just stay on my plan, have that new person slowly eat those minutes up and then change, saving
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AvgJoe

Jun 10, 2008, 11:34 PM
vzman23 said:
All that time before you were overpaying. It evens out. The rollover minutes rarely save the customer anything.


BS I am on the loest pland and Still have A ton od roll over minutes. Which is great for those months where we actually use more than 550 minutes. MOat of the time we are banking 200-300.

Roll Over is great for low end users who have high call months,
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vzman23

Jun 17, 2008, 5:11 AM
leave
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AvgJoe

Jun 17, 2008, 10:16 AM
vzman23 said:
leave


I call it like I see it. Deal with it or whone to the moderators? Get it? Good.
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vzman23

Jun 18, 2008, 12:47 AM
lol 🤣
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AvgJoe

Jun 17, 2008, 4:39 PM
vzman23 said:
All that time before you were overpaying. It evens out. The rollover minutes rarely save the customer anything.


Thats the "Verizon corporate line". Not true If you do not use all your minutes on a 550 minute plan there IS NO LOWER plan to go to with roll over and you can easily have 2000 minutes in the bank to share with a NEW LINE...

You assume everyone uses the same minutes every month and have no high usage months...Not true. YOu assume if you don't use all of your minutes you are on the wrong plan..So I guess you go over EVERY MONTH and pay what $.45 a minute? LOL
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berzito

Jun 27, 2008, 1:47 AM
yea most people wit rollover tend to have 500 to 1000 rollover minutes over a year they are over paying
yea it covers you for a few months that you go over but your still over paying and what so hard about checking your minutes takes less than a minute and if you see your going over a quick call fixes the problem but yea keep your precious rollover minutes you paid for them cherish them b4 they expired
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AvgJoe

Jun 27, 2008, 9:12 AM
berzito said:
yea most people wit rollover tend to have 500 to 1000 rollover minutes over a year they are over paying
yea it covers you for a few months that you go over but your still over paying and what so hard about checking your minutes takes less than a minute and if you see your going over a quick call fixes the problem but yea keep your precious rollover minutes you paid for them cherish them b4 they expired


Not really. Again thats the Verizon corporate line.

FREEDOM and Flexibility is the GSM way.....

What more flexibility could one want then to be on ANY plan and need to exceed that plan different times of the years without worry about paying huge rates per minute?

I am not overpay...
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texaswireless

Jun 27, 2008, 11:28 AM
So what plan would you sell a customer who needs two lines of service and averages 1000 daytime minutes per month?
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phonefan1

Jun 10, 2008, 11:22 AM
Truthseeker- are you saying that you get add an Iphone 3G for only $9.99? Did you forget the $30.00 data feature? So, it is really $39.99 per month to add the phone to a family share, right?

Just fact checking- not trying to start a fight. 😉
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izzymac83

Jun 10, 2008, 2:36 PM
I might be wrong, but before you add a additional line to an existing customer, don't you have to change that single line plan to a Family plan to be able to add additional? In additional, don't you lose those rollover minutes when you change your plan, or when a new calender year start? I'm just asking? 🤨
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robtheman

Jun 10, 2008, 3:26 PM
Truth-Seeker said:
Okay lets say in situation A - you have two lines already with att. But you have ton of rollover minutes. You could simply add a line for 9.99 and over all, you do not have to increase the plan by 20.00 more so that the new users could use more minutes.

Situation B - You have two linse with vzw..same rate plan but since you don't have rollover you now do have to increase to the next plan by $20.00 more to gain more minutes.

So $199.99 for the new 3g iphone.. Come on down folks be part of the next best thing..


You missed the part where he said that you already have two active lines implying that you don't need to change to a family plan.
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izzymac83

Jun 10, 2008, 6:05 PM
I forgot about that part when I was writing, but how about when the rollover is done, don't you still have to change your plan?
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Truth-Seeker

Jun 10, 2008, 9:54 PM
Re: If you had a ton of rollover minutes, you weren't on the right plan and were overpaying...

by 60dollarcarcharger Today, 12:51 PM
well if that user is using the same number of minutes you are, then you're only saving yourself one month... yes i understanding something is better than nothing, but the original assumption was that you would have to change your price plan with verizon and you wouldn't with att... if the new user can get by with your 300 extra min a month (due to the fact that they can call tons of people for free) then there really is no problem adding with vzw.

But i will say that you MAY have shown me a way in which rollover could be useful
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ihearttestman

Jun 12, 2008, 3:46 PM
I thought when you added a line you lost all of the rollover minutes ... maybe that's changed, take a look at ATT T&C
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nextel850

Jun 17, 2008, 3:31 PM
Truth-Seeker said:
Okay lets say in situation A - you have two lines already with att. But you have ton of rollover minutes. You could simply add a line for 9.99 and over all, you do not have to increase the plan by 20.00 more so that the new users could use more minutes.

Situation B - You have two linse with vzw..same rate plan but since you don't have rollover you now do have to increase to the next plan by $20.00 more to gain more minutes.

So $199.99 for the new 3g iphone.. Come on down folks be part of the next best thing..


YEA SMART ONE... BUT DID YA FORGET THE FACT THAT YOUR MINUTES ONLY ROLL OVER FOR 12 MONTHS... THEN THEY START OFF BACK TO 0...

COME ON... LETS THINK ABOUT THIS
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izzymac83

Jun 17, 2008, 3:57 PM
I knew there were a catch to it
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AvgJoe

Jun 17, 2008, 7:00 PM
izzymac83 said:
I knew there were a catch to it


There is no catch. You have ONE YEAR to use THIS months extra minutes..meaning you can easily A:WAYS have 2000 plus minutes in your bank even on the 550 a month plan.

Those who view this as a gimmick also view My Circle as a gimmick......They have neither and seriously believe THATS better !!!
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Truth-Seeker

Jun 17, 2008, 6:33 PM
"YEA SMART ONE... BUT DID YA FORGET THE FACT THAT YOUR MINUTES ONLY ROLL OVER FOR 12 MONTHS... THEN THEY START OFF BACK TO 0...

COME ON... LETS THINK ABOUT THIS "

hey nextel when you give information make sure you get ur facts right before you post information.roll over does not expired after 12 months.. it has a year from each month expiration.

okay lets clarify: you simply can't carry your rollover minutes from january 2007 to february 2008. but keep in mind. your february 2007 starts again.

so back to where i stated ..its still cheaper to add a line with att because you don't have to bump up your mins when you add that 3rd line cause you would have those extra unused roll over mins..
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AvgJoe

Jun 27, 2008, 9:19 AM
nextel850 said:
Truth-Seeker said:
Okay lets say in situation A - you have two lines already with att. But you have ton of rollover minutes. You could simply add a line for 9.99 and over all, you do not have to increase the plan by 20.00 more so that the new users could use more minutes.

Situation B - You have two linse with vzw..same rate plan but since you don't have rollover you now do have to increase to the next plan by $20.00 more to gain more minutes.

So $199.99 for the new 3g iphone.. Come on down folks be part of the next best thing..


YEA SMART ONE... BUT DID YA FORGET THE FACT THAT YOUR MINUTES ONLY ROLL OVER FOR 12 MONTHS... THEN THEY START OFF BACK TO 0...

COME ON..
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texaswireless

Jun 27, 2008, 11:35 AM
Wow, amazing that so many of you have NO CLUE how rollover actually works. Doesn't anyone do shopping reports anymore?

You only lose what you saved the 12 months ago. When you do have to use your rollover minutes it pulls from the oldest bank first.
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AvgJoe

Jun 27, 2008, 4:09 PM
texaswireless said:
Wow, amazing that so many of you have NO CLUE how rollover actually works. Doesn't anyone do shopping reports anymore?

You only lose what you saved the 12 months ago. When you do have to use your rollover minutes it pulls from the oldest bank first.


They sell against it and do not know what it is. or how it works. They had better not know becasue it would be tough deemphasizing it if they knew how it worked I guess.

I can imagine what they tell prospects about Roll Over. Typical misleading crap Im sure after reading some of the responses regarding ATT's Roll Over "gimmick" LOL.
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reklisammy

Jun 19, 2008, 10:29 PM
Att has no 3g network the iphones trash kid.
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comewhatmay

Jun 20, 2008, 5:47 PM
or not. because with at&t, anytime you change or alter your plan (this includes an add-a-line), all of your rollover reduce to the amount of minutes in the plan. so say you're on the 1400 min plan and you add a line with 11,000 rollover mins? sorry to say, but your down to 1400.
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colione112

Jun 26, 2008, 11:00 PM
Actually it seems that you need to study the competition a little better.

If you are on a 1400 min family plan, and add a line and don't change your plan you keep all of your roll over minutes.

If you ever raise or lower your plan, you're capped at the new plan minutes for the first month, then can start banking the minutes again.
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AvgJoe

Jun 27, 2008, 9:21 AM
comewhatmay said:
or not. because with at&t, anytime you change or alter your plan (this includes an add-a-line), all of your rollover reduce to the amount of minutes in the plan. so say you're on the 1400 min plan and you add a line with 11,000 rollover mins? sorry to say, but your down to 1400.


Uh do some homework sparky...You got it all wrong...
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texaswireless

Jun 27, 2008, 11:30 AM
Sorry guy but that is completely incorrect.
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Truth-Seeker

Jun 28, 2008, 7:24 PM
voyager, dare - ha ha.. no wifi..

try the real thing.. iphone july 11
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rynels

Jun 29, 2008, 11:54 AM
That is if you have 3G in your locale.
Not bashing the iPhone, it's rad, but WiFi is becoming a thing of the past already. Mobile Web will work with digital service, plus phone can be tethered in a snap.

But, I will say, the iPhone DOES have a better browser, I can deal with that.
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