Is there a Verizon phone that ATT users want and can't get?
there are a ton of GSM phones that Verizon users salivate over and (eventually) get albeit after they are way old news to the billions of GSM users worldwide. WORLDWIDE? Not THATS coverage. Not just a few laces in Montana or South Dakota where it soes not pay for GSM carriers to bother with.
Has Verizon ever had a phone GSM users wanted and had to wait for?
A few dropped calls now and then does have its advantages...... 😁
Has Verizon ever had a phone GSM users wanted and had to wait for?
A few dropped calls now and then does have its advantages...... 😁
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Oh, there you are!
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
LOL Verizon has no choice but to be dragged a kickin' and screamin' into open source. Believe me they do not want to go there and it will cost them a revenue stream they can now charge for. ATT is already there and has been.
They would not have joined if they were not forced to by the market pressures.
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Well, you are right about one thing: Verizon wants more customers (who doesn't?)
It just seems like 18 months ago, Verizon ONLY wanted GOOD customers who paid their bills and didn't mind the fact that Big Brother was in control of all the details.
That did leave a class of Americans out there like the credit challenged or the techies like yourself that VZ wasn't really tailoring to. Now, it seems like upper management has said: "Wait a minute, why are we ignoring these small market segments? Direct Post-paid subscribers ARE the best customers, but even lower grade customers can still be profitable, right?"
Well, the answer is yes. AT&T, VZW, T-Mobile and Sprint (well, maybe not Sprint) are in this business to make money. If they ...
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It just seems like 18 months ago, Verizon ONLY wanted GOOD customers who paid their bills and didn't mind the fact that Big Brother was in control of all the details.
That did leave a class of Americans out there like the credit challenged or the techies like yourself that VZ wasn't really tailoring to. Now, it seems like upper management has said: "Wait a minute, why are we ignoring these small market segments? Direct Post-paid subscribers ARE the best customers, but even lower grade customers can still be profitable, right?"
Well, the answer is yes. AT&T, VZW, T-Mobile and Sprint (well, maybe not Sprint) are in this business to make money. If they ...
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Well, you are right about one thing: Verizon wants more customers (who doesn't?)
It just seems like 18 months ago, Verizon ONLY wanted GOOD customers who paid their bills and didn't mind the fact that Big Brother was in control of all the details.
That did leave a class of Americans out there like the credit challenged or the techies like yourself that VZ wasn't really tailoring to. Now, it seems like upper management has said: "Wait a minute, why are we ignoring these small market segments? Direct Post-paid subscribers ARE the best customers, but even lower grade customers can still be profitable, right?"
Well, the answer is yes. AT&T, VZW, T-Mobile and Sprint (well, maybe not Sprint) are in
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AvgJoe said:...CellStudent said:
Well, you are right about one thing: Verizon wants more customers (who doesn't?)
It just seems like 18 months ago, Verizon ONLY wanted GOOD customers who paid their bills and didn't mind the fact that Big Brother was in control of all the details.
That did leave a class of Americans out there like the credit challenged or the techies like yourself that VZ wasn't really tailoring to. Now, it seems like upper management has said: "Wait a minute, why are we ignoring these small market segments? Direct Post-paid subscribers ARE the best customers, but even lower grade customers can still be profitable, right?"
Well, the answer is yes. AT&T, VZW, T-Mobile and Sprint
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That's the thing - profit sharing. From what people and I have gathered, they are giving a good portion (way above the norm) of service revenue from the iPhone back to Apple - that's giving away the farm. And I think AT&T would rather have control over the warranty than Apple (but I could be mistaken).
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but it's money that they are not subsidizing the cost of the handset for... also not having to pay employees for warranty. warranty is a huge expense for any company.
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crackberry said:
but it's money that they are not subsidizing the cost of the handset for... also not having to pay employees for warranty. warranty is a huge expense for any company.
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/the-831-iph ... »
I hope that extra expense AT&T is paying does cover warranty and other control issues.
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tnt2k1 said:crackberry said:
but it's money that they are not subsidizing the cost of the handset for... also not having to pay employees for warranty. warranty is a huge expense for any company.
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/the-831-iph ... »
I hope that extra expense AT&T is paying does cover warranty and other control issues.
it's not that much.
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Blackberry Thunder 😲
And its more than a "few" dropped calls. Att has terrible voice quality, A joke of a 3G network, and there Nationwide foot print is strong, but still suspect in many parts of the country.
And I don't believe their overall phone lineup is any better than verizon's. They have a few heavy hitters (iphone, N95) but other than that I'm not overly impressed.
And its more than a "few" dropped calls. Att has terrible voice quality, A joke of a 3G network, and there Nationwide foot print is strong, but still suspect in many parts of the country.
And I don't believe their overall phone lineup is any better than verizon's. They have a few heavy hitters (iphone, N95) but other than that I'm not overly impressed.
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You know. I'm sick of people in here repeating whatever consumer reports 'claims'. I have perfect call quality and clarity. It's no different or better than that of you guys. Actually, AT&T picks up more background sounds which is why some people say that's clearer (you can hear a child crying from afar on the other end. Or you hear the sound of the wind hitting the windshield while you're driving 60mph or higher). I think you need to pick up an AT&T phone and start making some phone calls on it, because those 'AT&T voice quality issues' are non-existent. And I wish other people on AT&T would jump on here to back up this statement.
You guys keep bringing that, just as much as the trolls in here complain about bt being crippled. Gosh, it ge...
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When was the last time you have used a Verizon phone? I have been switched now for almost a year (switched to ATT for the iPhone), and I can tell you hands down ATT is no where near the call quality of Verizon. I know the iPhone is not great in call quality, but I also have a razr and a samsung sync, so its not just one phone that is the problem.
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When was the last time you have used a Verizon phone? I have been switched now for almost a year (switched to ATT for the iPhone), and I can tell you hands down ATT is no where near the call quality of Verizon. I know the iPhone is not great in call quality, but I also have a razr and a samsung sync, so its not just one phone that is the problem.
But really who cares? Myself and millions of users would give up some"call quality" for far better phones, more flexibility, less expense and worldwide coverage everyday of the week....In fact many do just that. The Iphone and SAMSUNG? are your examples? Are you kidding me?
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"Some call quality?" Every time I'm with someone on AT&T they need to borrow my phone just to make a call cuz they have NO BARS....geez...get a grip. There's a reason we pay those exorbitant bills to Verizon. Their service works.
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mellowlen62 said:
"Some call quality?" Every time I'm with someone on AT&T they need to borrow my phone just to make a call cuz they have NO BARS....geez...get a grip. There's a reason we pay those exorbitant bills to Verizon. Their service works.
Why don't your friends just switch to VErizon if they have to use your phone EVERYTIME?
Really? What do they torture themselves with such shoddy service. You don't know do you. You made that up didn't you?
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When was the last time you have used a Verizon phone? I have been switched now for almost a year (switched to ATT for the iPhone), and I can tell you hands down ATT is no where near the call quality of Verizon. I know the iPhone is not great in call quality, but I also have a razr and a samsung sync, so its not just one phone that is the problem.
But really who cares? Myself and millions of users would give up some"call quality" for far better phones, more flexibility, less expense and worldwide coverage everyday of the week....In fact many do just that. The Iphone and SAMSUNG? are your examples? Are you kidding me?
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verizonplayah said:
When was the last time you have used a Verizon phone? I have been switched now for almost a year (switched to ATT for the iPhone), and I can tell you hands down ATT is no where near the call quality of Verizon. I know the iPhone is not great in call quality, but I also have a razr and a samsung sync, so its not just one phone that is the problem.
does it sound better when you talk to other at&t people? i have at&t and my wife has verizon and when i talk on my at&t phone to someone on verizon it sounds like crap but when i call someone on at&t or a landline it sounds fine. when i use her phone, verizon people sound fine and at&t people sound like crap... it's weird.
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crackberry said:...verizonplayah said:
When was the last time you have used a Verizon phone? I have been switched now for almost a year (switched to ATT for the iPhone), and I can tell you hands down ATT is no where near the call quality of Verizon. I know the iPhone is not great in call quality, but I also have a razr and a samsung sync, so its not just one phone that is the problem.
does it sound better when you talk to other at&t people? i have at&t and my wife has verizon and when i talk on my at&t phone to someone on verizon it sounds like crap but when i call someone on at&t or a landline it sounds fine. when i use her phone, verizon people sound fine and at&t people sound like crap..
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hm, I havn't noticed that but Ill try and give it a shot. My gf has verizon so I will pay attention next phone call. Thanks
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I have personally had att and my parents and sister both have att currently. I actually told my parents to avoid calling me on their cell phones if they are at home. I told them to you use a landline!
The voice quality is an issue for some people, and att is certainly not better than verizon in that category. I'm glad you like your service, but personally, I'll stick with verizon and actually get more bars in more places.
The voice quality is an issue for some people, and att is certainly not better than verizon in that category. I'm glad you like your service, but personally, I'll stick with verizon and actually get more bars in more places.
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cwcanty said:
I have personally had att and my parents and sister both have att currently. I actually told my parents to avoid calling me on their cell phones if they are at home. I told them to you use a landline!
The voice quality is an issue for some people, and att is certainly not better than verizon in that category. I'm glad you like your service, but personally, I'll stick with verizon and actually get more bars in more places.
Yeah like the places few go. Actually worldwide I believe GSM gets more bars in more places.....ya think? Now the question is do you really go to all those rare places?
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huh? your question was all fragmented...what exactly are you asking me.
And I don't frequently travel overseas and neither do most of your customers, so whats the point? It s prolly cheaper to just get a prepaid phone when you get there or bring an unlocked phone and use a prepaid sim card. The travelin overseas thing is overrated.
Im not going to go with a certain cell company because maaaayyybbbeeee if I can go to europe and use the same device. And not all GSM/ATT phones are quad band, so they might not even function properly overseas
And I don't frequently travel overseas and neither do most of your customers, so whats the point? It s prolly cheaper to just get a prepaid phone when you get there or bring an unlocked phone and use a prepaid sim card. The travelin overseas thing is overrated.
Im not going to go with a certain cell company because maaaayyybbbeeee if I can go to europe and use the same device. And not all GSM/ATT phones are quad band, so they might not even function properly overseas
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cwcanty said:
huh? your question was all fragmented...what exactly are you asking me.
And I don't frequently travel overseas and neither do most of your customers, so whats the point? It s prolly cheaper to just get a prepaid phone when you get there or bring an unlocked phone and use a prepaid sim card. The travelin overseas thing is overrated.
Im not going to go with a certain cell company because maaaayyybbbeeee if I can go to europe and use the same device. And not all GSM/ATT phones are quad band, so they might not even function properly overseas
You claim Verizon has more bars in more places. I claim GSM does. The piint is it doesn't matter who has the larger footpring in the US or Worldwide...
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I live in the Midwest, those "rare" places are everywhere even entire states. SUPERISE people live and travel to the "rare" places.
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gozvzw said:
I live in the Midwest, those "rare" places are everywhere even entire states. SUPERISE people live and travel to the "rare" places.
Doesn't mean anything to those who don't travel there. Im glad for you guys living in the sticks Verizon has come to the rescue. I feel bad that you cannot enjoy the benefits of technology as it is released and have to wait sometimes a year for your turn.
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I don't live in the stix, thanks though. My point was the places you think are rare aren't, at least not in the Midwest. AT&T is very spotty all over the Midwest, call me crazy but I like being able to use my phone on I-90. Also the technology is not that far behind, yes we did just get the Curve (1 year later blah blah blah) but there are many other phones that are very comparable to AT&T's phones. Also the Thunder is coming to VZW first, I know you don't care about it but that doesn't mean other people don't. They will have it before AT&T, if AT&T even gets it.
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cwcanty said:
I have personally had att and my parents and sister both have att currently. I actually told my parents to avoid calling me on their cell phones if they are at home. I told them to you use a landline!
The voice quality is an issue for some people, and att is certainly not better than verizon in that category. I'm glad you like your service, but personally, I'll stick with verizon and actually get more bars in more places.
Chris, in the message about you crackberry made an interesting statement. He says that when he calls at&t subscribers with his at&t handset, the calls sound fine. But if he calls other carriers with his at&t phone such as vzw, that's when the call clarity takes a dump....
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You know. I'm sick of people in here repeating whatever consumer reports 'claims'. I have perfect call quality and clarity. It's no different or better than that of you guys. Actually, AT&T picks up more background sounds which is why some people say that's clearer (you can hear a child crying from afar on the other end. Or you hear the sound of the wind hitting the windshield while you're driving 60mph or higher). I think you need to pick up an AT&T phone and start making some phone calls on it, because those 'AT&T voice quality issues' are non-existent. And I wish other people on AT&T would jump on here to back up this statement.
You guys keep bringing that, just as much as the trolls in here complain
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I switched to GSM a few months ago, and there is a difference in the call quality and reception. Dropped calls and connectivity is an issue as well. So why doesn't the rest of the world use CDMA? That's easy if you care to actually think about it.
First of all, the cost to switch every network in the world from GSM to CDMA would be enormous. No company in their right mind would try to make that happen globally.
Second, the international customer base has never used CDMA and doesn't know what they're missing out on. Even if a company had the resources to switch from GSM to CDMA, why would they? Their customers probably don't even know what CDMA is.
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First of all, the cost to switch every network in the world from GSM to CDMA would be enormous. No company in their right mind would try to make that happen globally.
Second, the international customer base has never used CDMA and doesn't know what they're missing out on. Even if a company had the resources to switch from GSM to CDMA, why would they? Their customers probably don't even know what CDMA is.
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robtheman said:
So while call quality is better with CDMA, there are pros and cons to both. The pros for GSM outweigh the cons in the rest of the world. Here in the US, CDMA really is a better technology for voice and data unless you do a lot of international travel. Sacrificing newer technology to have that advantage is something that some people are willing to do. You aren't. We get it. Move on.
I don't see the advantage to ever giving up superior technology becasue a few calls are dropped now and then. Voice quality is what it is. Can I understand the person on the other end> ALWAYS. This is not HiFi. Its voice communications through tiny speakers.
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Yep. You're one person. You can make that choice. Good for you. You still fail to see that others aren't willing to make the same choice because of things like dropped calls, connectivity to towers, call quality, etc.
I said I switched to GSM. I've had more dropped calls in those months since I switched than I did with the the years I had Verizon. You don't seem to care, but I'm willing to bet it's because you, like the customers in Europe, simply don't know any better.
I said I switched to GSM. I've had more dropped calls in those months since I switched than I did with the the years I had Verizon. You don't seem to care, but I'm willing to bet it's because you, like the customers in Europe, simply don't know any better.
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Yep. You're one person. You can make that choice. Good for you. You still fail to see that others aren't willing to make the same choice because of things like dropped calls, connectivity to towers, call quality, etc.
I said I switched to GSM. I've had more dropped calls in those months since I switched than I did with the the years I had Verizon. You don't seem to care, but I'm willing to bet it's because you, like the customers in Europe, simply don't know any better.
I KNOW i will nevr drop a call with Verizon. I KNOW Verizon is the end all in coverage and service. I KNOW the fidelity of the voice quality is secend to none.....
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It's been said a million times. ATT customers get the phones first, VZW customers can actually use them. Same old story. Different day. Can we move on??
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AvgJoe said:
Yeah We do KNOW all that. Yet somehow it still does not make any difference becasue out actual experience says otherwise in millions of cases.
The technology trumps the less than represented better call quality and reliability Veriaon is touted to have. It's really not ALL that much better then what we have. However all the other features we have are a thousand times better.
In. Your. Opinion.
It's great that you like AT&T and GSM so much. More power to you. You keep missing that you do not speak for everyone. Believe it or not, the world does not revolve around you. Your opinion is not the end all when it comes to consumer electronics. Sure, there are others like you which is w...
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AvgJoe ... you have to understand here that people in the US still don't care about phones ... as long as they work. Trust me ... work cell phone retail for 3+ years in the US and you will see that.
I know you say that the market for tech savy cell phone consumers are growing in the US and will eventually become like the European market. I disagree. The American market has always been a conservative market and will always remain the same (relative to the rest of the world of course).
I know you say that the market for tech savy cell phone consumers are growing in the US and will eventually become like the European market. I disagree. The American market has always been a conservative market and will always remain the same (relative to the rest of the world of course).
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tnt2k1 said:
AvgJoe ... you have to understand here that people in the US still don't care about phones ... as long as they work. Trust me ... work cell phone retail for 3+ years in the US and you will see that.
I know you say that the market for tech savy cell phone consumers are growing in the US and will eventually become like the European market. I disagree. The American market has always been a conservative market and will always remain the same (relative to the rest of the world of course).
Youger people are very tech savvy and they will not be satisfied with "just a cell phone" Older folks (Verizon customers) are more inclined to view a cell phone as just a phone. There is Verizon's market. AS...
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You are right ... VZW is the older folk's cell phone provider. And I believe that belief does pass down on the younger generation. I was speaking to my little sister and her floormates (who are good representations of the youth that you refer to) and although they like cool phones ... I told them about the N95 and other phones like that and they all say that's overkill and prefer something simple like the chocolate (wow, I can't believe the world is calling the chocolate phone a simple phone now)
Oh trust me AvgJoe, I see the writing on the wall. That is why I say the keyword relative. VZW will change to be part of the industry trend, but they will always be behind because they know the majority of the American customers they serve co...
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Oh trust me AvgJoe, I see the writing on the wall. That is why I say the keyword relative. VZW will change to be part of the industry trend, but they will always be behind because they know the majority of the American customers they serve co...
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I switched to GSM a few months ago, and there is a difference in the call quality and reception. Dropped calls and connectivity is an issue as well. So why doesn't the rest of the world use CDMA? That's easy if you care to actually think about it.
First of all, the cost to switch every network in the world from GSM to CDMA would be enormous. No company in their right mind would try to make that happen globally.
Second, the international customer base has never used CDMA and doesn't know what they're missing out on. Even if a company had the resources to switch from GSM to CDMA, why would they? Their customers probably don't even know what CDMA is.
Third, SIM cards are vital for places li
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cwcanty said:
Blackberry Thunder 😲
And its more than a "few" dropped calls. Att has terrible voice quality, A joke of a 3G network, and there Nationwide foot print is strong, but still suspect in many parts of the country.
And I don't believe their overall phone lineup is any better than verizon's. They have a few heavy hitters (iphone, N95) but other than that I'm not overly impressed.
Show me one post in here or HoFo where an ATT users wants the Blackberry Thunder!!!
By the time you see that phone ATT will have trumped it with other phones.......as usual
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why do I need to go to hofo?? Go to the forum for the thunder on this website and there are people that want it. Go to boy genius report and read the comments on his blog.
Once again, you've proven you can't have a sensible discussion. You only see one side and that just starts flame wars. It's great that you like att, but other companies doing some great things, and if you are going to turn a blind eye to this--then your opinions are worthless.
The Bold for att, and the Thunder for verizon will both be good devices and im sure people on each carrier will want the other phone. Thats the nature of cell phones today.
Once again, you've proven you can't have a sensible discussion. You only see one side and that just starts flame wars. It's great that you like att, but other companies doing some great things, and if you are going to turn a blind eye to this--then your opinions are worthless.
The Bold for att, and the Thunder for verizon will both be good devices and im sure people on each carrier will want the other phone. Thats the nature of cell phones today.
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Blackberry Thunder 😲
And its more than a "few" dropped calls. Att has terrible voice quality, A joke of a 3G network, and there Nationwide foot print is strong, but still suspect in many parts of the country.
And I don't believe their overall phone lineup is any better than verizon's. They have a few heavy hitters (iphone, N95) but other than that I'm not overly impressed.
Show me one post in here or HoFo where an ATT users wants the Blackberry Thunder!!!
By the time you see that phone ATT will have trumped it with other phones.......as usual
Yup, I knew this was coming - https://www.phonescoop.com/news/discuss.php?f m=m&ff=3028&fi...
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We already have a 3G blackberry, several actually. Any handset that runs the Blackberry overlay will work.
And Verizon doesn't have that handset yet so it hardly qualifies.
And Verizon doesn't have that handset yet so it hardly qualifies.
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You don't have a true 3G BB yet, nice try tho. If you have to hack the software, that doesn't count. And the thunder is confirmed for verizon, so I would say that you could throw that in the mix.
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The BB overlay is not a hack. Are you not familiar with this process?
And until you can buy the Thunder you don't have it. We had an LG VU for months, then we finally were able to buy it.
And until you can buy the Thunder you don't have it. We had an LG VU for months, then we finally were able to buy it.
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No, im sorry, I have verizon--all of our blackberries come out of the box with EVDO coverage 😎
And I bring up the thunder, because it has a ton of potential and is an exciting release that people on other carriers are certainly going to be jealous of. The thunder is a way bigger deal than another LG prada clone (btw, check out the VU reviews...not so hot)
And I bring up the thunder, because it has a ton of potential and is an exciting release that people on other carriers are certainly going to be jealous of. The thunder is a way bigger deal than another LG prada clone (btw, check out the VU reviews...not so hot)
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You may see the Thunder after all the "vigorous testing" in about a year. The Thunder is another "catch up" offering. No more no less. And by the time you actually get it. The "technology" will be old news by anyone's standards.
Verizon is not very quick about releasing new phones. I guess its all the "testing"
Verizon is not very quick about releasing new phones. I guess its all the "testing"
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I looked on VZW website and did not see. Is the Curve Rev A or Rev O? What about previous versions? I honestly did not know that the Verizon BB handsets were broadband of any type. Half of my stores are in a market where there is no Verizon. The other half are all new.
Thanks for the information.
Thanks for the information.
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I used to want the Prada, there have been others as well, but i have always found something to hold me over
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There were/are a lot of phones that ATT doesn't have that Verizon does. Granted, there are similar models (vice versa also).
LG 8800 (Venus)
LG 9400
LG 9800 (V)
LG 9900 (EnV)
LG 9100 (EnV2)
LG 10000 (Voyager)
Samsung Juke
Samsung Glyde
BlackBerry Thunder
I'm sure there are more too, I just can't think of all of them. Granted, a lot of these GSM users don't wait for because there is no option. There might be a counterpart to some of those in GSM versions, who knows. I've never seen a similar model to the ones listed for GSM.
LG 8800 (Venus)
LG 9400
LG 9800 (V)
LG 9900 (EnV)
LG 9100 (EnV2)
LG 10000 (Voyager)
Samsung Juke
Samsung Glyde
BlackBerry Thunder
I'm sure there are more too, I just can't think of all of them. Granted, a lot of these GSM users don't wait for because there is no option. There might be a counterpart to some of those in GSM versions, who knows. I've never seen a similar model to the ones listed for GSM.
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there are a ton of GSM phones that Verizon users salivate over and (eventually) get albeit after they are way old news to the billions of GSM users worldwide. WORLDWIDE? Not THATS coverage. Not just a few laces in Montana or South Dakota where it soes not pay for GSM carriers to bother with.
Is this supposed to be written in English?
Now to answer your question, I am sure there are. The Venus, voyager, the Glyde, How about the Samsung i760? That really is a fantastic phone if you like Windows Mobile.
The same goes vice versa.
Now a couple of questions for you. Why don't you quit trolling around this forum and go play with your beloved AT&T fanboys? If you truly loathe Verizon so v...
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aavera said:...AvgJoe said:
there are a ton of GSM phones that Verizon users salivate over and (eventually) get albeit after they are way old news to the billions of GSM users worldwide. WORLDWIDE? Not THATS coverage. Not just a few laces in Montana or South Dakota where it soes not pay for GSM carriers to bother with.
Is this supposed to be written in English?
Now to answer your question, I am sure there are. The Venus, voyager, the Glyde, How about the Samsung i760? That really is a fantastic phone if you like Windows Mobile.
The same goes vice versa.
Now a couple of questions for you. Why don't you quit trolling around this forum and go play with your beloved AT&T fanboys?
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AvgJoe said:...aavera said:AvgJoe said:
there are a ton of GSM phones that Verizon users salivate over and (eventually) get albeit after they are way old news to the billions of GSM users worldwide. WORLDWIDE? Not THATS coverage. Not just a few laces in Montana or South Dakota where it soes not pay for GSM carriers to bother with.
Is this supposed to be written in English?
Now to answer your question, I am sure there are. The Venus, voyager, the Glyde, How about the Samsung i760? That really is a fantastic phone if you like Windows Mobile.
The same goes vice versa.
Now a couple of questions for you. Why don't you quit trolling around this forum and go pla
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I agree with the above. Why not hang out in the at&t forum if you're so happy with at&t?
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why did you let yourself get sucked into playing joes game once again 🙄 C'mon Chris you're better then that.
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I know. I guess I hold the belief that maybe people can change. Hell, a few months ago, you used to piss me off on a daily basis, lol. Now, you're prolly one of the better posters on this forum.
I guess I'm holding out hope that maybe this dbag will pick his game up, but after reading some of his posts on the att forum--that seems unlikely.
Chris
I guess I'm holding out hope that maybe this dbag will pick his game up, but after reading some of his posts on the att forum--that seems unlikely.
Chris
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He did mention in one thread saying that he's done posting in VZW forums ... wasn't that last week?
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I agree with crackberry. We have customers who want phones like the full qwerty env and people were interested in the Voyager as well.
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South Dakota doesn't want ATT cuz we have the best verizon! So ha ha ATT go someplace else! LIke NYC
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