Vzw to Att: Switching between phones not so bad with Vzw afterall
One of the biggest complaints people with verizon always say is that switching between phones is such a hassle having to either call customer service or log into My Account to do the ESN swap. Everyone wishes that verizon had sim cards like Att and Tmobile, but are sim cards really so great if you switch between phones daily?
I always thought the same thing while I was with Verizon. When the iphone came out and I switched to Att, I learned that using verizon's "my account" to switch esns really wasn't that bad afterall. I switch phones at least once a day, usually when I work out or go to the beach, i switch to my "secondary phone" that I dont care too much about. For a while I was also switching between the iphone and the razr2 as primar...
(continues)
I always thought the same thing while I was with Verizon. When the iphone came out and I switched to Att, I learned that using verizon's "my account" to switch esns really wasn't that bad afterall. I switch phones at least once a day, usually when I work out or go to the beach, i switch to my "secondary phone" that I dont care too much about. For a while I was also switching between the iphone and the razr2 as primar...
(continues)
...
good post!
I think people get so caught up with the sim card. Most of these people prolly dont even switch phones or go overseas. They just brag about it because they "can do it".
Good to hear some positive thoughts on the verizon system.
Chris
I think people get so caught up with the sim card. Most of these people prolly dont even switch phones or go overseas. They just brag about it because they "can do it".
Good to hear some positive thoughts on the verizon system.
Chris
...
Ya it is a total misconception that truly isn't such the big deal that people make it out to be. Having a Sim card is not and should not be any kind of deal breaker between GSM vs. CDMA.
...
my only concern is going from an EVDO phone to a 1x phone (e.g. enV to a Juke). It won't let you do it and you have to call customer service. Please verify that isn't true anymore ...
...
I do agree, evdo to 1x and vice versa is a pain in the but. Im not sure if this has been fixed yet but ya it needs to be fixed. From the couple of times I had to call in and do this though, they did waive the fee since it can't be done online.
...
verizonplayah said:
I do agree, evdo to 1x and vice versa is a pain in the but. Im not sure if this has been fixed yet but ya it needs to be fixed. From the couple of times I had to call in and do this though, they did waive the fee since it can't be done online.
When I had regular Nextel phones, there were SIM swapping limitations as well.
For example, if you owned an old i700 rugged work phone, but then upgraded to say, an i880, you had to use the old SIM card between phones in order for the swapping out to work. in other words, if you changed over to the new SIM card that came with the new phone, it wasn't backward compatible. You would get an error message instead. This sucked because the newer card...
(continues)
...
People always comment about how nice it is to store their contacts on their SIM card so when they switch from phone to phone they always have their info and don't need a cellebrite machine to move their phone book. Unfortunately, if you lose your GSM phone with SIM card in it, you are actually worse off then if you lost your VZW (or Alltel, or US Cellular, or Sprint) CDMA phone... provided you have backup assistant (which I think is available on most major carriers now). The numbers are stored independently of the phone and the service is free if your are registered for My Account... which everyone should be.
...
I don't see how you could be WORSE off by having your contacts on the SIM.
All other variables aside, if you lose OR break your CDMA phone, contacts are gone no matter what.
If you just BREAK your GSM phone with contacts on the SIM, at least your still have your contacts.
I have never had a phone get "wear and tear" from switching the SIM card out repeatedly. Be more careful then.
All other variables aside, if you lose OR break your CDMA phone, contacts are gone no matter what.
If you just BREAK your GSM phone with contacts on the SIM, at least your still have your contacts.
I have never had a phone get "wear and tear" from switching the SIM card out repeatedly. Be more careful then.
...
I have to say that i agree that i like vzw better also. i have both cdma and gsm and the gsm sim card will not hold all of my contacts, so i hase to save alot of them to the phone and the sim.so how is that better??? with vzw back up assistant saves all of them.and switching is so easy.if you break your cdma phone you never lose your contacts.
...
The difference is that with a CDMA phone you can choose to upload you numbers to a secondary source... (ie backup assistant.) so if you phone is lost, stolen or damaged.. its a simple matter of downloading back from the secondary source. were as in GSM phones all the data is stored on the card, if lost you out all your info.
...
VZWrara said:
The difference is that with a CDMA phone you can choose to upload you numbers to a secondary source... (ie backup assistant.) so if you phone is lost, stolen or damaged.. its a simple matter of downloading back from the secondary source. were as in GSM phones all the data is stored on the card, if lost you out all your info.
NOt really. My phone syncs with outlook automatically when I walk in the door.
If I lost my SIM I could get another SIM card pop it in to one of my drawer full of old phones and just sync it with any one of my computers. ANY phone regardless of the features. No calls, No fees to waive. No problem.
Oh and its not so much the hasle of swiching Verizon phones in as muc...
(continues)
...
AvgJoe said:
FREEDOM and FLEXIBILITY
Can you hear me now?
Yeah, we do. You're the guys who lost in Q1. 😎
...
AshDizzle said:
I have never had a phone get "wear and tear" from switching the SIM card out repeatedly. Be more careful then.
Well when you switch phones even once a day, thats 365 times per year, I don't care how "careful" you are, it will cause it to wear poorly.
...
That it is not just about switching phones. It's about the ability to buy any unlocked phone that I like. I just bought another K790a a few minutes ago. (I had this phone and gave it away -big mistake)
AT&T never picked up this amazing phone. But I can still buy it UNLOCKED (which is the way to go anyway) and put my SIM card in it. I wish I could show you all the things this bad boy can do!
In the mean time you guys can only switch between whatever phones Vz lets you have. I know this will change soon, but until then you won't know what you've been missing.
AT&T never picked up this amazing phone. But I can still buy it UNLOCKED (which is the way to go anyway) and put my SIM card in it. I wish I could show you all the things this bad boy can do!
In the mean time you guys can only switch between whatever phones Vz lets you have. I know this will change soon, but until then you won't know what you've been missing.
...
There are a lot of sweet phones out there ...
For people like us, although the percentage is growing (which is one of the reasons why VZW is going open access), we only represent probably less than 5% of VZW's customer base. The other 95% could really care less about their phone.
For people like us, although the percentage is growing (which is one of the reasons why VZW is going open access), we only represent probably less than 5% of VZW's customer base. The other 95% could really care less about their phone.
...
Really? I'm pretty sure that there's a lot of people out there who've lost/broke phones before and wished they were able to get phones from any other means than Vz. Especially, when they're still not eligible for upgrade and have to pay retail price. I was one of them, so I know it sucks. But what can I say? I was in my early 20's and I didn't know any better.
...
izzymac83 said:
Don't you pay retail price for a unlock phone?
NO.That is anot true on high end phones......The high end Nokias are routinely sold for $200 Plus of Retail price. Thats why I do not believe ATT will carry them. They cannot offer a subsidy on a phone one can already get unlocked at the same price.
...
tnt2k1 said:
There are a lot of sweet phones out there ...
For people like us, although the percentage is growing (which is one of the reasons why VZW is going open access), we only represent probably less than 5% of VZW's customer base. The other 95% could really care less about their phone.
Verizon going open access? Thats funny. Lets see how much MORE they charge for THAT plan!!!!
You won't see open access for a long long time.They talk about it now because some of their customer base must be getting antsy and anxious about GSM phones and VEriaon's choices.
They did have 1.2% churn the first QTR...Same as ATT...YIKES. They have fallen to the same levels as ATT..
...
AvgJoe said:
They did have 1.2% churn the first QTR...Same as ATT...YIKES. They have fallen to the same levels as ATT..
Sigh. You keep screwing that up. ATT's overall churn was 1.7%. It's postpaid churn was 1.2 percent:
http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20 ... »
Verizon? 1.19 percent overall, and I believe 0.93 percent postpaid. So yeah, Verizon whomped ATT in churn/customer loyalty, but that's nothing new.
...
SystemShock said:AvgJoe said:
They did have 1.2% churn the first QTR...Same as ATT...YIKES. They have fallen to the same levels as ATT..
Sigh. You keep screwing that up. ATT's overall churn was 1.7%. It's postpaid churn was 1.2 percent:
http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20 ... »
Verizon? 1.19 percent overall, and I believe 0.93 percent postpaid. So yeah, Verizon whomped ATT in churn/customer loyalty, but that's nothing new.
Whoa wans't it YOU wha said pre paid doesn't count?
Compare BOTH comanies on POST paid. Theres you sign!!
...
AvgJoe said:SystemShock said:AvgJoe said:
They did have 1.2% churn the first QTR...Same as ATT...YIKES. They have fallen to the same levels as ATT..
Sigh. You keep screwing that up. ATT's overall churn was 1.7%. It's postpaid churn was 1.2 percent:
http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20 ... »
Verizon? 1.19 percent overall, and I believe 0.93 percent postpaid. So yeah, Verizon whomped ATT in churn/customer loyalty, but that's nothing new.
Whoa wans't it YOU wha said pre paid doesn't count?
Compare BOTH comanies on POST paid. Theres you sign!!
Are you on meds?
ATT's overall churn...
(continues)
...
BROWN27 said:
the bottom like is ATT still sucks so who gives a fig! 🤣
Not according to Millions of long time users who do "give a fig". Verison is living on the past as well as many of their users who are not even aware of what phones can do. You guys are all giddy about a phone that is already 18 months old and very old news on the ATT side......in the Curve!!!!! LOL
The bottom line is there are more people in this country using ATT than Verizon. Something must not suck about ATT.
...
okay ... let's re-analyze this. What are the number of customers between ATT and VZW? Last time I checked they were pretty close in comparison ... I mean something that close, it might as well be 50/50.
I look at online polls where people say "46% this" or "54% that" ... to me that's more less 50/50 to me.
I look at online polls where people say "46% this" or "54% that" ... to me that's more less 50/50 to me.
...
tnt2k1 said:
okay ... let's re-analyze this. What are the number of customers between ATT and VZW? Last time I checked they were pretty close in comparison ... I mean something that close, it might as well be 50/50.
I look at online polls where people say "46% this" or "54% that" ... to me that's more less 50/50 to me.
You would think ATT would be losing customers to Verizon at an alarming rate the way the way some talk. It simply is not happening in any material way. I'd bet Verizon is picking up more customers from Sprint than ATT.
...
I also agree that VZW picks up more customers from Sprint. I know there is data out there that shows the amount of ports between carriers.
I do remember hearing that VZW gets more port ins from AT&T than VZW port outs to AT&T - that was like a year or two ago.
I do remember hearing that VZW gets more port ins from AT&T than VZW port outs to AT&T - that was like a year or two ago.
...
tnt2k1 said:
I also agree that VZW picks up more customers from Sprint. I know there is data out there that shows the amount of ports between carriers.
I do remember hearing that VZW gets more port ins from AT&T than VZW port outs to AT&T - that was like a year or two ago.
Im guessing the IFad changed that. Even some Verizon diehards got sucked into the Apple orchard.
...
I love how AT&T throws customer base around like they are the big dog around the parts.
First and foremost, outside oh maybe a quarter or two, Verizon has made more money and gained more customers than AT&T, so don't throw that useless information out there like its something special, AT&T gets owned by Verizon in every other category, so throwing one victory out doesn't mean AT&t is worth a "fig", its pure opinion so don't try to start an argument about it.
I have no idea what you think you prove by consistently bashing Verizon, but it is rather pathetic that everytime a Verizon win comes, for their customers and themselves, you try to chirp in with your useless and bias opinions.
What about sprint? They are just getting the curv...
(continues)
First and foremost, outside oh maybe a quarter or two, Verizon has made more money and gained more customers than AT&T, so don't throw that useless information out there like its something special, AT&T gets owned by Verizon in every other category, so throwing one victory out doesn't mean AT&t is worth a "fig", its pure opinion so don't try to start an argument about it.
I have no idea what you think you prove by consistently bashing Verizon, but it is rather pathetic that everytime a Verizon win comes, for their customers and themselves, you try to chirp in with your useless and bias opinions.
What about sprint? They are just getting the curv...
(continues)
...
rjsumthin said:...
I love how AT&T throws customer base around like they are the big dog around the parts.
First and foremost, outside oh maybe a quarter or two, Verizon has made more money and gained more customers than AT&T, so don't throw that useless information out there like its something special, AT&T gets owned by Verizon in every other category, so throwing one victory out doesn't mean AT&t is worth a "fig", its pure opinion so don't try to start an argument about it.
I have no idea what you think you prove by consistently bashing Verizon, but it is rather pathetic that everytime a Verizon win comes, for their customers and themselves, you try to chirp in with your useless and bias opinions.
What about sp
(continues)
...
You still have the same tired argument. A commie UI on a smart phone? We are still talking about the same thing right?
Please, let's take a step out of your world, and your tried copy and paste fan boy insults.
You get more pantie wadded about people getting excited about stuff on a carrier that you have no interest in, than I do when ignorant people post their useless opinions where they aren't wanted or needed. Not to mention the pure bias hatred you have for the company.
So if you are GOING to make a crack on things like the curve, make sure you include Sprint, and whoever else might JUST be getting the curve in the mix. Not just one, I mean, you are coming from YOUR crappy little GSM world and bashing a CDMA Carrier, atleast ...
(continues)
Please, let's take a step out of your world, and your tried copy and paste fan boy insults.
You get more pantie wadded about people getting excited about stuff on a carrier that you have no interest in, than I do when ignorant people post their useless opinions where they aren't wanted or needed. Not to mention the pure bias hatred you have for the company.
So if you are GOING to make a crack on things like the curve, make sure you include Sprint, and whoever else might JUST be getting the curve in the mix. Not just one, I mean, you are coming from YOUR crappy little GSM world and bashing a CDMA Carrier, atleast ...
(continues)
...
Got Defense? LOL
Since when does Verizon need defending with SO MANY WORDS??????
Thats alone speaks volumes. Surely you don't need to write a book to defend such a great company.......or do ya?
Since when does Verizon need defending with SO MANY WORDS??????
Thats alone speaks volumes. Surely you don't need to write a book to defend such a great company.......or do ya?
...
Again, not defending a company, I only mention verizon because that's where your useless flaming is going towards.
If you notice I said I hate you and your attitude, and that's what my flaming is based towards.
Granted, again, intelligence is needed for comprehension. Not something you are really overflowing with.
Notice every point I bring up is formulated about your opinion, which is always GSM is ownage, or Verizon sucks. So kind of hard to bring up anything outside of Verizon.
Read the above post, read this statement in it....
Get off your ignorant posts, it's not defending my carrier, it's preaching to people like you that can't formulate or fathom the idea that people don't give a crap about your opinion on how lat...
(continues)
If you notice I said I hate you and your attitude, and that's what my flaming is based towards.
Granted, again, intelligence is needed for comprehension. Not something you are really overflowing with.
Notice every point I bring up is formulated about your opinion, which is always GSM is ownage, or Verizon sucks. So kind of hard to bring up anything outside of Verizon.
Read the above post, read this statement in it....
Get off your ignorant posts, it's not defending my carrier, it's preaching to people like you that can't formulate or fathom the idea that people don't give a crap about your opinion on how lat...
(continues)
...
I could care less what you think of me...You are wasting your time "flaming" me personally. Its like water off a duck...However I do know 5 million more people choose ATT over Verizon in this country. Worldwide CDMA carriers are but a fraction of users.
...
SystemShock said:
And yet, in the US, CDMA is more popular than GSM.
Whoa. 😉
No one said America is the last word on anything.
In fact when it comes to cell phone technology the US is far far behind the rest of the world as evidenced by the phones we don't get.
Its not CDMA thats popular. Its the fact that Sprint and Verizon had a longer time to advertise consistently. Most peoples entire research into a decision is an clever advertising campaign.
Although the current Verizon "take your network everywhere" is a tad lame. Its focused on the right people though. Focus groups work.
The ATT crowd would not buy into that ad. They know better.
...
Meh, I was just pointing out a fact... CDMA is more popular than GSM in the US. No need to cry about it.
You may have your own pet theories as to why it's true, but it does not change the fact. 😉
You may have your own pet theories as to why it's true, but it does not change the fact. 😉
...
SystemShock said:
Meh, I was just pointing out a fact... CDMA is more popular than GSM in the US. No need to cry about it.
You may have your own pet theories as to why it's true, but it does not change the fact. 😉
damn right! 🤣
...
Most people in this country don't know the difference between CDMA and GSM, so it's not like they are making a conscience choice to take CDMA technology over GSM. They shopping devices, coverage, and cost.
CDMA is only more popular because it was here first AND most of the people in this country don't care about the higher end phones. Most people in this country care only for whatever free flip the carrier is giving them. In places where higher tech and features are in the forefront, they go with GSM. There are very few high end phone, like the Nokia N95, if any, that are CMDA devices and available in this country.
As for your argument that VZW is allowing "open" network for devices, that's BS. They still are only going to let device...
(continues)
CDMA is only more popular because it was here first AND most of the people in this country don't care about the higher end phones. Most people in this country care only for whatever free flip the carrier is giving them. In places where higher tech and features are in the forefront, they go with GSM. There are very few high end phone, like the Nokia N95, if any, that are CMDA devices and available in this country.
As for your argument that VZW is allowing "open" network for devices, that's BS. They still are only going to let device...
(continues)
...
AvgJoe said:
I could care less what you think of me...You are wasting your time "flaming" me personally. Its like water off a duck...However I do know 5 million more people choose ATT over Verizon in this country. Worldwide CDMA carriers are but a fraction of users.
but gsm world wide in most countries is requires by laws- like europe. so that government can see what citizens are up to. control of citizens lives. if carriers could use cdma in europe, which system do you think they would have set up if they had the choice. as for gsm here in us. only reason some still have it is because of contracts. but then what percentage of att customers are prepaid.
...
AvgJoe said:The bottom line is there are more people in this country using ATT than Verizon. Something must not suck about ATT.
To be technically correct, of persons that signed up for at@t versus Verizon service, Verizon has more native customers than at@t. To be specific to your point, as a matter of consumer decision, which is the only point your position would have had; no , more people are not choosing at@t. Save for a quarter.
That said, I've been pretty specific to stating that at@t has done a pretty rock solid job of leveraging the merger for a positive outcome and has improved precipitously.
Still, if the point you were making is that customers knowingly are choosing at@t, that is not correc...
(continues)
...
No, I didn't fail to realize that. I just stated that there are a few misconceptions with the ease of use of switching phones with a sim card. Both have positives and negatives, no one can deny that. And I agree with the whole unlocked thing. That is one of a GSM carrier's strongest attributes.
...
Yes vzw does have the better option to switch phones. Have you ever thought about when you lose your phone? That sim card is gone and now you lose your contacts, ppl will use your account until you report it, have to buy new sim, and a new phone unless you have insurance. If you lose your vzw phone you have the free contact backup if you have My Account, Switch to old phone in less than 5 minutes online and don't have to wait for phone to come in to get to use your service, and you dont need to buy another sim card! so what can I say VZW is the best 🙂
...
actually if a GSM customer loses their phone, yea it suxs they may have to buy another one but they don't pay for their sims, and we also offer mobile back-up, pretty cool to use actually. This is not a bash on VZW either, i actually like a few of the phones they offer like the EnV and a few others like it.
...
