Verizon Switches to GSM's Side For Ultra Highspeed 4G Technology
Verizon Wireless today announced it would support "Long Term Evolution" (LTE), the super fast 4G technology currently in testing from Nokia and its European friends in the 3GPP group, and operating at a blistering 100Mbps. It's certainly hot technology, but one seen as an extension of GSM's high-speed packet technology. This is a rejection of CDMA's EV-DO (which has a faster Rev. C that could have been rolled out) and a definite rejection of WiMax, which has been Sprint's chosen 4G technology. As dramatic as the shift is, it's not totally surprising when you look at Verizon's historic lack of compatibility with its European co-owner, Vodafone, an early LTE supporter. It also fits with Verizon's new pledge of openness: presumably this means i...
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They might start using Removable User Identity Module (R-UIM) which is a simcard that can be used with a cdma network also the card can be used with gsm as well so that might be how they fix that problem who knows we will see.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RUIM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RUIM »
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It's not like they are switching their CDMA and EVDO network over, they are just going to LTE for 4G data. So if you have a GSM,EDGE,UMTS,HSDPA phone, you will not be able to use it on Verizon's network still. You will be able to use LTE only phones (which will probably use VoIP), CDMA/EVDO/LTE phones or Global phones with CDMA/EVDO/GSM/LTE with no issue.
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but AvjJoe knows all, if he says its gsm then we should all believe him. Now we can all get a cool nokia phone that we tuck under our pillows at night to keep us all warm and fuzzy 🤣
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duckbutter said:
but AvjJoe knows all, if he says its gsm then we should all believe him. Now we can all get a cool nokia phone that we tuck under our pillows at night to keep us all warm and fuzzy 🤣
I'm sure that's his fondest dream.
"Nokia... nokia.... nokiaaaaaaaa...." 😁
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LOl All you guy see is RED in your socialistic GUIs, on your phones, in your mailboxes and mostly on your faces when you try to transfer a file to another,
And Yes Verizon is indeed abandoning EVDO in favor of a GSM technology. Welcome to the bright side!!
"hot technology, but one seen as an extension of GSM's high-speed packet technology. This is a rejection of CDMA's EV-DO (which has a faster Rev. C that could have been rolled out) and a definite rejection of WiMax, which has been Sprint's chosen 4G technology."
What part of "extension of GSM technology" and "rejection of CDMA's EV-DO" don't you understand?
And Yes Verizon is indeed abandoning EVDO in favor of a GSM technology. Welcome to the bright side!!
"hot technology, but one seen as an extension of GSM's high-speed packet technology. This is a rejection of CDMA's EV-DO (which has a faster Rev. C that could have been rolled out) and a definite rejection of WiMax, which has been Sprint's chosen 4G technology."
What part of "extension of GSM technology" and "rejection of CDMA's EV-DO" don't you understand?
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Seriously Joe- LTE is not GSM, it is the evolution that GSM will take. LTE networks will be the dominant standard worldwide, so VZW is going to launch the services as will VodaPhone. at@t will most likely do the same and both companies will need to replace existing infrastructure to implement LTE, build out areas with LTE and add it to current infrastructure. LTE will carry voice via VOIP and data speeds will top out at over 300Mbps on multiplexed 20MHz channels if pursued.
LTE doesn't in any way mean any company using it is going to GSM. GSM is to LTE what the Ford Model T would be to the Ford GT, a thing of the past and no relation to the current technology. Please look beyond the bubble you are stuck in or life will pass you by Joe!
LTE doesn't in any way mean any company using it is going to GSM. GSM is to LTE what the Ford Model T would be to the Ford GT, a thing of the past and no relation to the current technology. Please look beyond the bubble you are stuck in or life will pass you by Joe!
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Seriously Joe- LTE is not GSM, it is the evolution that GSM will take. LTE networks will be the dominant standard worldwide, so VZW is going to launch the services as will VodaPhone. at@t will most likely do the same and both companies will need to replace existing infrastructure to implement LTE, build out areas with LTE and add it to current infrastructure. LTE will carry voice via VOIP and data speeds will top out at over 300Mbps on multiplexed 20MHz channels if pursued.
LTE doesn't in any way mean any company using it is going to GSM. GSM is to LTE what the Ford Model T would be to the Ford GT, a thing of the past and no relation to the current technology. Please look beyond the bubble you are stuc
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Tsk... AvgJoe sure needs to read up on 4G technology, looks like. He really thinks LTE is GSM? 🤣
GSM is TDMA-based... i.e. very OLD tech. 😲
LTE is OFDM- and SC-FDMA- based. Much different, and better, than stone-age GSM/TDMA tech. Heck for its 3G upgrade path, the GSM boys had the good sense to have their air interface be CDMA-based, i.e. WCDMA. Even THEY know GSM/TDMA isn't up to it.
So why would anyone go backwards to crappy old GSM for their 4G? A: They didn't.
LTE may be on GSM's upgrade path, but it's sure not the same tech. If it were, it would be huge step backwards.
From Wikipedia:
The proposed E-UTRA system uses OFDMA for the downlink (tower to handset) and Single Carrier FDMA (SC-FDMA) f ...
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GSM is TDMA-based... i.e. very OLD tech. 😲
LTE is OFDM- and SC-FDMA- based. Much different, and better, than stone-age GSM/TDMA tech. Heck for its 3G upgrade path, the GSM boys had the good sense to have their air interface be CDMA-based, i.e. WCDMA. Even THEY know GSM/TDMA isn't up to it.
So why would anyone go backwards to crappy old GSM for their 4G? A: They didn't.
LTE may be on GSM's upgrade path, but it's sure not the same tech. If it were, it would be huge step backwards.
From Wikipedia:
The proposed E-UTRA system uses OFDMA for the downlink (tower to handset) and Single Carrier FDMA (SC-FDMA) f ...
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Wow, you really are retarded..
this info was from like this past summer and VZW had it posted in their news releases
and you really need to learn to research. Calling LTE GSM is like calling WCDMA GSM... GSM is GSM, it isnt anything else. GSM is a very limited tech that has passed its day. GSM is a 2G tech that only has voice and text ability, there have had to be other techs thrown on top of it to make it functional in todays world.
There is this great invention you should start using.. its called the "internet" it has a ton of useful information on it about a wide verity of topics. You should try using it to inform yourself about topics before making idiotic statements.
this info was from like this past summer and VZW had it posted in their news releases
and you really need to learn to research. Calling LTE GSM is like calling WCDMA GSM... GSM is GSM, it isnt anything else. GSM is a very limited tech that has passed its day. GSM is a 2G tech that only has voice and text ability, there have had to be other techs thrown on top of it to make it functional in todays world.
There is this great invention you should start using.. its called the "internet" it has a ton of useful information on it about a wide verity of topics. You should try using it to inform yourself about topics before making idiotic statements.
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Wow, you really are retarded..
this info was from like this past summer and VZW had it posted in their news releases
and you really need to learn to research. Calling LTE GSM is like calling WCDMA GSM... GSM is GSM, it isnt anything else. GSM is a very limited tech that has passed its day. GSM is a 2G tech that only has voice and text ability, there have had to be other techs thrown on top of it to make it functional in todays world.
There is this great invention you should start using.. its called the "internet" it has a ton of useful information on it about a wide verity of topics. You should try using it to inform yourself about topics before making idiotic statements.
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Damn you guys sure know your stuff, in my little world I push a button and talk 😉
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COFDM »
"In Orthogonal Frequency Division Multiple Access (OFDMA), frequency-division multiple access is achieved by assigning different OFDM sub-channels to different users. OFDMA supports differentiated quality-of-service by assigning different number of sub-carriers to different users in a similar fashion as in CDMA, and thus complex packet scheduling or media access control schemes can be avoided."
OFDM, the basis of both LTE and WiMax, is based off of CDMA concepts due to the ability to carry non-concurrent/non-dedicated frequency data packets. Versus TDMA based GSM, which still requires that a slice of frequency remain for delivery throughout the course of connection (short version). CDMA and following ...
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"In Orthogonal Frequency Division Multiple Access (OFDMA), frequency-division multiple access is achieved by assigning different OFDM sub-channels to different users. OFDMA supports differentiated quality-of-service by assigning different number of sub-carriers to different users in a similar fashion as in CDMA, and thus complex packet scheduling or media access control schemes can be avoided."
OFDM, the basis of both LTE and WiMax, is based off of CDMA concepts due to the ability to carry non-concurrent/non-dedicated frequency data packets. Versus TDMA based GSM, which still requires that a slice of frequency remain for delivery throughout the course of connection (short version). CDMA and following ...
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