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Price per MB - regular cell vs smartphone - insane!!

wantonsoup

Nov 7, 2007, 4:35 PM
Let me get this straight. If you have a cell phone and use the Mobile Web, you'll pay $1.99 per MB.

If you have a Smartphone or PDA phone, you'll pay more than $15 per MB! ($0.015 / KB)

That's INSANE. What the hell is going on??
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dudechewy

Nov 7, 2007, 4:38 PM
thats why u should get a mb plan with ur pda theres the 25 35 and 45 plan.
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robtheman

Nov 7, 2007, 6:29 PM
The Blackberry data changed. I think it's $30 for unlimited now.
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Voice_Of_Logic

Nov 7, 2007, 6:49 PM
robtheman said:
The Blackberry data changed. I think it's $30 for unlimited now.


the new $30 plan is only good as long as it is BIS services. BES is still the $45
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robtheman

Nov 7, 2007, 6:57 PM
😕

My corporate rep told me the $30 package was replacing the $45 because Verizon got a deal with RIM for their Blackberries.
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Celling_it

Nov 8, 2007, 7:50 AM
VZW may have gotten a good deal on handsets from RIM but the 29.99 BB plan is only good for customers who are using the BIS server. Any corporate customers who need BEs access wil still have to pay 44.99. BB has set up the feature with VZW that the 29.99 plan will not access a BES server.
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WM6user

Nov 7, 2007, 7:39 PM
dudechewy said:
That's why you should get an MB plan with your pda. They have a $25, $35, and $45 plan.






That is true.
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lilgabe1

Nov 7, 2007, 4:39 PM
Smartphone users are paying for a more robust internet experience. The voyager will be the first non smartphone device that has a full html browser. They also use alot more data on the network and thus pay a higher per unit cost.

If you look around the industry, this practice is standard.
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crackberry

Nov 7, 2007, 5:14 PM
lilgabe1 said:
Smartphone users are paying for a more robust internet experience. The voyager will be the first non smartphone device that has a full html browser. They also use alot more data on the network and thus pay a higher per unit cost.

If you look around the industry, this practice is standard.

what's the unlimited plan for regular phones? are they doing away with that and just charging per mb?
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Wireless Buddy

Nov 7, 2007, 5:18 PM
Ya.
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wantonsoup

Nov 7, 2007, 5:32 PM
What are you talking about? $15 / month for VPak includes unlimited Mobile Web.
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wantonsoup

Nov 7, 2007, 5:36 PM
You have two options for Mobile Web (Verizon's cell-phone web browser):

$1.99 / MB

or

$15 for the VPak which includes unlimited Mobile Web bandwidth (within reason, like 3-4 GB a month)
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vzman23

Nov 7, 2007, 6:15 PM
includes ringtone dl's and game's
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Voice_Of_Logic

Nov 7, 2007, 4:56 PM
its pretty straight forward, a WAP browser vs a HTML browser! usage between the two are very different experience

wap = less data to transfer = less to pay.

html = more data to transfer = more to pay.
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wantonsoup

Nov 7, 2007, 5:30 PM
Well, not really. I mean, MB are MB. If I transfer 3 MB in WAP pages or 3 MB in HTML pages, it's still 3 MB.

What you're thinking is actually this: Ironically, using a WAP browser is inherently much more lean, and will transfer less bandwidth per page. So 1 MB to a WAP browser goes a lot further than to a regular HTML browser. It's just ANOTHER reason this pricing is ridiculous and insane.
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vzman23

Nov 7, 2007, 6:16 PM
nm
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Voice_Of_Logic

Nov 7, 2007, 6:51 PM
yep, sorry i should have explained a little better in the "less transfer" part
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sangyup81

Nov 8, 2007, 10:20 AM
Wanton, the issue isn't total Monthly data. The issue is capacity.

You have 10 users pulling WAP pages vs. 10 users pulling HTML at a given moment. Which scenario causes more problems (and upkeep costs) for Verizon Wireless?

This is why the price is so different.
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Celling_it

Nov 8, 2007, 7:55 AM
As someone else said it the b rowsing expereince that you are paying for. I can buy a high end luxury car or a mid level sedan and they might possible have the same options available, get the same gas mileage, ect and one costs a lot more than the other. It is the exeperience of driving the high end luxury car that I am really paying for.
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hammey22

Nov 8, 2007, 8:48 AM
So, just so I am understanding what you are saying. The $1.99/Mb does not apply to any Smart/PDA Phones such as the i760? I was under the impression that I could drop the data plan if I am not pulling email down to my device and only use the web sparingly. Also, if the number I was seeing is true then it is $15/Mb for the Smartphone pay-as-you-go option?
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Celling_it

Nov 8, 2007, 7:19 PM
Yes that is correct the pay as you go for a PDA os 0.015/kb, or 15.00 /mb. I is still steal consideriong Sprint charges over 30.00/mb for there pay as you go. The pay as you go for a standard phone (non PDA) is 1.99/mb.
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wantonsoup

Nov 14, 2007, 2:54 PM
Sorry, that's baloney. 1 MB of transfer is 1 MB of transfer. True, a WAP browser is less enhanced, but 1 MB = 1 MB.

What weighs more - a pound of crap or a pound of diamonds?
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primus

Nov 9, 2007, 10:56 PM
Very simple, VZW wants all customers that own PDA/Smartphones to have unlimited data. That is why the pay as you go and 10MB plans are so expensive.

At the same time the regular phones they cant charge the 1.5 cents per KB rate at because it would cost the customers too much when their kid they gave the phone to and didnt tell them anything goes on the mobile web and racks up 5 MB of use.
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