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OK... so when WILL you have the V3 razor? seriously!

mshaw

Dec 9, 2004, 10:03 PM
I know about the testing .. yeah yeah .. but for some reason vz seems to have the least attractive selection of phones. don't get me wrong, i've been with vz 10 years (gte first) and the service is fine .. but they seem to get the good phones later and later and sometimes not at all .. so now that cingular is already selling the v3, when will vz finally offer it?
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CainMarko

Dec 9, 2004, 10:06 PM
Never.
It's a GSM phone.
VZW is CDMA.
Will Moto make something similar for CDMA carriers? Probably not, but if they do, no one would be able to afford it. It's a $650.00 phone. It would probably be 750.00 from a CDMA carrier just because of the cost of the chipset.
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GWFOX

Dec 10, 2004, 1:41 PM
Cain is right.

V3 is a Cingular exclusive and is a GSM only phone.

I don't think the price would be that much of a difference to be honest.

I highly doubt Moto would go into R&D to make the phone chipset compatable with CDMA... ESPECIALLY where moto has had such a bad run of CDMA based phones.
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VZW_insider

Dec 13, 2004, 10:21 PM
I have to agree, the chance of Verizon Wireless carrying the V3 is slim to none. It's a hot looking phone, not neccessarily a very practical phone for the features available, but hey, i would say 75% of people buy a phone for looks over functionality (as long as it works) even if they say they don't.

Motorola has some work to do on their charging ports, which is one reason VZW hasn't been pushing for new moto phones. We swap anywhere from 10-20 motorola phones (all makes and models) a day for the same problem, after about a year the charging ports become very fussy. I'm a long time Motorola fan, had a v60, t720, v400 (back in my Cingular days) and a v710, loved them all, never had a charging problem, but then again being in the industry f...
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jester2ll2

Dec 9, 2004, 10:33 PM
Uhm...do you know anything? It's not for VZW. Never has been. Never will be.

IT'S GSM!!!!
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JDigital

Dec 10, 2004, 1:25 AM
Yeah... and hey, does anybody know when they are FINALLY going to realease Mac OS X for the PC? Geez, I've been waiting forever.
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BetterThanJake

Dec 10, 2004, 1:26 AM
That'd be nice... OS X rocks 🙂
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schnozejt

Dec 10, 2004, 4:19 AM
I have OS X on my personal computer(PC)---i consider my mac a pc
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Tebor0

Dec 10, 2004, 3:02 PM
Most consider it a POS. đŸ¤Ŗ

Just kidding, just kidding. 🙂
The Mac definitely has it's strong and weak points just like a IBM based PC.
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schnozejt

Dec 10, 2004, 3:34 PM
I love the fact that when I plug in most external devices into my mac it automatically recognozes it. When my friend plugs any external device into his IBM he has to load up software for it to recognize the device(which doesnt work well at times).

I also love the fact that my powerbook weighs about 5lbs, has an alunimum casing, 12"(its small) and only 1" thik. OS X is very users friendly, i didnt become a mac fan untill OS X came out. OS 9 was horrible, it was so archaic kinda like windows 93--maybeb like dos
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Tebor0

Dec 10, 2004, 3:42 PM
The last time I remember having to install drivers for a USB device was back when I was using Windows95. Installing software is different.

I'm sure you can find plenty of small notebook/laptops using the x86 or newer 64bit architecture.

The Mac and specifically OSX is very nice. The software support like what an IBM PC has though just isn't there. For the average user a "normal" PC is often the best choice. Macs are more of a specialized computer.
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BetterThanJake

Dec 10, 2004, 6:09 PM
Mmm... I dunno about that. I use OS X regularly, and really haven't run into anything that I want to run that is Windows-only, except for a few games (and even then, the big hit games nearly always come out on Mac, they just take awhile). Plus, if I ever did wanna run something that was PC-only, there's a program called Virtual PC that would let me run said PC program on a Mac.

Honestly, when it was time to buy my last computer, I tried coming up with reasons why I should jump over to Windows, and couldn't come up with any that were convincing. And its also been nice to smile every time a new Windows virus hits (which seems almost weekly now), while I just don't have to worry.
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JDigital

Dec 11, 2004, 3:56 PM
Hey nerds.... I was making a smartass remark. Come on!
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BetterThanJake

Dec 11, 2004, 5:29 PM
JDigital said:
Hey nerds.... I was making a smartass remark. Come on!

If you hang out on Internet forums much of the day, as you seem to, then you're a 'nerd' as well.

Not that there's anything wrong with that 😉
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tnyflrs

Dec 12, 2004, 12:28 PM
I like both systems but my preference leans towards Windows but I sure would like MAC for my daughters or to make movies.
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JDigital

Dec 14, 2004, 4:23 PM
I don't "hang out" here... I run two different wireless stores, and I'm on here for actual info most of the time. I pop in to check the forums about three times a day for about five minutes each, unless of course someone (ahem...CainMarko...ahem) sets me off. 😉
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speck

Dec 13, 2004, 9:36 PM
*nix
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JessiCSR

Dec 10, 2004, 1:27 PM
NEVAR! đŸ˜ŗ It's a cingular exclusive, AND GSM.
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mshaw

Dec 10, 2004, 2:10 PM
wow ... some venom in those responses! ok, I get it .. not gonna happen .. but y'all should know that I'm the demographic for VZ .. not a phone expert like yourselves .. and this kind of emphasizes the fact that VZ just doesn't carry a line up of phones that compares favorably with some of the competition .. and you don't need to tell me about the service and coverage or anything .. as I said I've been with VZ for 10 years.

but I get it .. and I thought the mad OS to pc comparison was pretty witty!
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DDA

Jul 9, 2005, 11:56 AM
Actually, Motorola is looking to release the C-RAZR around christmas. I don't remember where Rich posted info about it, but its supposed to be just a little thicker than the regular RAZR and have a megapixle camera instead of the G-RAZR's VGA

So your answer is sometime after christmas, if at all.
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vzw2010

Dec 12, 2004, 12:41 PM
sometimes i post in the worng section ,but verizonwireless cannot offer the phone it is strictly gsm ☚ī¸
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JessiCSR

Dec 14, 2004, 5:58 PM
It's not even that great of a phone. Ohhh it's shiny and thin! Woooo...?

The Moto V400 is the same if not better.
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MightyJoeYoung

Dec 14, 2004, 6:29 PM
Well, not to say that I'd pay 500-600 bucks for it, but the v3 is a whole lotta phone compared to the v400. You are correct in saying that the phones have similar features, but the v3 has the "cadillac" version. Everything about the phones basic design elements are high end. The screen is pretty new and experimental. the same with the battery. the keypad is one of the coolest keypads i have ever used. the camera is a higher quality camera. spend 30 minutes with the phone and you will see what i mean. the only thing that disappointed me about the phone is the lack of edge. the phone was designed for europe tho, so that's the reason edge wasn't added.
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JessiCSR

Dec 14, 2004, 6:32 PM
OK then....the V551 is a better phone.

the V3 is all bark. It's like the rolex. Made of expensive stuff, but the thing ain't even waterproof.
The RAZR is made of titanium and the keys are cut with lazers. But it has no better features than the V400..and that phone is really crappy.
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megs72979

Dec 14, 2004, 6:42 PM
it has the lcd on the outside, which is a hot feature. and ever use bluetooth? i will never use a non bluetooth phone again.
don't get me wrong, i can't afford to buy it on my pay here at cingular (it is a good thing motorola is so generous), but it is a sweet phone.
too bad lockline won't insure it though, i am so nervous using it with my track record on my phones, i did their two claim limit already this year.
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JessiCSR

Dec 14, 2004, 6:54 PM
I think it's crap..I'm mean my boss has one that's less than 2 months old, and the paint on the keys already wore off. it looks cool. But I don't like it. I really dont' even think it's that cool looking anyway..I like the V551 mooch better.
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megs72979

Dec 14, 2004, 7:04 PM
if the v551 had an external lcd, that would be cool. i got my sister a job at the comp store next town over, and she is brand new and loves that phone. moto has a sales incentive where we can win our choice of phones and some bluetooth accessories and she wants the v551. but you can get the mpx220 or the a630. i convinced her to get the mpx and sell it on ebay or something and then buy the v551. mpx is worth twice as much, but i think once she actually plays with an mpx she'll keep it. have you seen it? it is pretty cool. the only thing i don't like is that you need a data package and can't use media works. which stinks! so i'll be getting myself the a630, still a pretty hot phone.

i am actually a nokia buff, i wish they'd have cool incen...
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BetterThanJake

Dec 14, 2004, 7:11 PM
Yeah, but the Razr, while not practical for most people, is still important- I think a lot of phones in the future are going to try to emulate its look and styling.

Its sort of a trendsetter, sort of in the way that the iPod is. Of course, the Razr will never take over its market in the way the iPod has (due to price and that its Cingy-exclusive, plus the iPod pioneered/created a market[HD MP3 players], Razr didn't), but still, only a few products in any given market are 'inspirational' in any way, and I'd say the Razr is one of those.

Though I'd sure be more 'inspired' if there was a Razr-clone that was half the price and available on VZW. I'm sure it'll happen someday... in the meantime, my Sammy is pretty nice.
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JessiCSR

Dec 14, 2004, 7:22 PM
But the thing is, teh iPod offers more than anything before it.

The razr actually offers less than similar phones offer.
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BetterThanJake

Dec 14, 2004, 8:01 PM
Oh, certainly- like I said, the iPod created a whole new market, the Razr comes nowhere near.

But the Razr will likely be a *design* trendsetter, which the iPod has been also (though ppl bought the iPod only partly for the design, and largely for the capability- thousands of songs in your pocket n' all that).
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JessiCSR

Dec 14, 2004, 8:03 PM
of course...that why i gave the comparison of the Rolex and the RAZR.

You pay for the design and the materials that make it. Not the quality.
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MightyJoeYoung

Dec 14, 2004, 8:22 PM
You don't buy a Rolex for quality?
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JessiCSR

Dec 14, 2004, 8:28 PM
Most rolexes aren't even waterproof...you pay for the precious gem gears. 🙄
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megs72979

Dec 14, 2004, 8:29 PM
who wears a rolex scuba diving?
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JessiCSR

Dec 14, 2004, 8:34 PM
waterproof isn't the same as working under deep pressures.

And seriously...if you wear a watch, it's never gotten wet? Watches that aren't waterproof crap out just like a cell phone would if it got wet.

And why are we arguing about this? I'm just using the rolex's non-waterproofness as an example of the basic things you miss out on for things that are less expensive.
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JessiCSR

Dec 14, 2004, 8:36 PM
that last part should mean.

You miss out on basic stuff that comes with any other phone, but you pay nearly twice as much.
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megs72979

Dec 14, 2004, 8:37 PM
not arguing, just saying that being waterproof isn't that important. if you spend money on a real rolex, you would be careful to not get it wet.
the razr is a beautiful phone, and i wasn't sold until after i started using it. i was going to give mine to my sister, but decided to keep it for myself.
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JessiCSR

Dec 14, 2004, 8:49 PM
...not my point..

You can pay 10.00 for a watch and it'd be waterproof. It's a standard thing...you pay thousands of dollars for a watch that's lacking in a basic feature that EVERY OTHER watch has.
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BetterThanJake

Dec 14, 2004, 8:31 PM
I think Jessi might be confusing 'quality' and 'capability'.

A Rolex has quality, certainly, just not a lot of special capability. Ditto the Razr.
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JessiCSR

Dec 14, 2004, 8:37 PM
Yeah...that's what I mean. đŸ¤Ŗ
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speck

Dec 14, 2004, 7:38 PM
I disagree... The Cingular junkie I am... The Razr is worthless in my book... Though pretty... Pretty is not worth $599 in my book... For that kind of price it's a HUGE dissapointment it lacks features that are standard on just mid-end phones... There is absolutely no excuse for that... Especially because the other high-end phones sprt those features... All you're paying for is pretty... I know people will buy this phone for that reason... People pay millions for splatters of paint on canvas because the artists stated it expressed their rage... People will pay thousands for a 10 yr old cheese sandwhich...

Does this make the phone worth it? Or consumer brilliant? No. In our industry today with the technological advancements that have come ...
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DDA

Jul 9, 2005, 12:06 PM
https://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=1142 »

That is the link to the news article showing when the C-RAZR is to be launched stateside!
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