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NEW PLANS = NICKEL AND DIME

TommyBoy

Oct 15, 2007, 7:42 AM
Ok so I have never been one to complain about vzws marketing and money making strategies but this one takes the cake for me. The new plans are roing to make people pay for the data transmission on data products like vznav, gin apps and such. So even though there will be a free 30 day trial on vznav there will be a 4 dollar charge to download it! So on a ringer its (already expensive) 3 dollars to buy then 2 dollars for the transfer cost! It basically means gin apps and web usage will not be minute based and will pay vw money every time someone uses these products. UNLESS of course (vzw forcing vcast down customers throats) they subscribe to vcast service... This was done in attempt to PREVENT vzw from nickel and diming customers but to me it...
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skillz2003

Oct 15, 2007, 8:30 AM
Everyone, its not going to cost as much as TommyBoy says. we will not nickel and dime you
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Anxiovert

Oct 15, 2007, 8:44 AM
I think his point is that; he will have to pay for something he didn't have to in the past.
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TommyBoy

Oct 15, 2007, 8:49 AM
And if I accidently hit the web key it cost me. Even getting to the "free my account" on mobile web is going to cost data transmission. Again what is the positive side for customers with these new plans? Also I think you might be forgetting that vzw is the only one out there that basically forces customers to use GIN for almost everything... So in actuallity even though the rate is the cheapest it is still going to be more expensive. They also are going to round up to the nearest MB...
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Zoltar

Oct 15, 2007, 9:40 AM
The rounding will NOT be per session, it will be per bill cycle.

For example if you end the month with 9 data sessions of .5MB each (4.5MB total) that will be rounded to 5MB.

You will NOT be rounded up to 1MB per session.
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Anxiovert

Oct 15, 2007, 11:05 AM
What? Why would they round up? Other carriers (AT&T)don't do this. I know they can do it.
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MidnightDT

Oct 15, 2007, 2:38 PM
yeah but at&t charges 1c per Kb which is $10.48 per MB

VZW is charging $1.99 a MB.

which is really cheaper?
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izzymac83

Oct 15, 2007, 12:13 PM
TommyBoy said:
And if I accidently hit the web key it cost me. Even getting to the "free my account" on mobile web is going to cost data transmission. Again what is the positive side for customers with these new plans? Also I think you might be forgetting that vzw is the only one out there that basically forces customers to use GIN for almost everything... So in actuallity even though the rate is the cheapest it is still going to be more expensive. They also are going to round up to the nearest MB...


You don not have to worry about the new plans; if you already have verizon wireless, this doesn't appy to you. You as a current customer, still be charge minutes of use for GIN, and other data application.
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MidnightDT

Oct 15, 2007, 2:37 PM
wrong. My account portion of the mobile web does NOT use MB


as for rounding up to the nearest MB thats only done once at the end of the month, not on every connection like it was with minutes. With minutes you made fifteen connections to the mobile web over the month by mistake they were like 5 seconds each, each one rounded up thats 15 minutes.

If you made 15 accidental connections on the new deal it would be a very small amount of Data which at the end of the month would maybe round up to 1mb, but not 15 mb like with minutes.

also you can block the data so if you don't want it to be a problem block it.
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izzymac83

Oct 15, 2007, 12:04 PM
The new plans only applies to new customers after november 1st or making major changes to your plans after Verizon Wireless discontinue the old calling plans.
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DRA44

Oct 15, 2007, 1:05 PM
Since this is my first post I hate to sound totally ignorant, but since I am, here goes anyway.
I currently have an AMERICA'S CHOICE II FAMILYSHARE PRI 2100 ANY UNL N&W/IN CLG. The primary line is eligible for a new every 2 upgrade as of Oct 16, which I'm sure would extend the contract for another 2 yrs. With the new data charges coming out, am I wise to make the move now or to wait and see what happens over the next couple of months?
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sangyup81

Oct 15, 2007, 1:27 PM
If you don't change your plan, you're fine.
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vzwinagent

Oct 15, 2007, 8:48 AM
Ummm... your prices are way off. I saw a spreadsheet somewhere else that said 100 mobile web pages are 1MB. It also said that like 5 ringtones are 1MB and 4 games are 1MB. The price per MB is only 1.99 so each of those alone is way under $1. From my understanding other carriers have billed this way for a long time already.
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TommyBoy

Oct 15, 2007, 8:53 AM
Like I was saying other carriers don't rely on their own multimedia service (GIN) like vzw does. And just becasue others are doing it doesnt always mean vzw has to. They were making positive strides and then do something like this.. If they want the cost of a ringer to be 4 dollars then make it that don't make it 3 dollars and another dollar to download it... It's all about the vcast abd you know it.
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trucksmoveamerica

Oct 15, 2007, 9:57 AM
I thought I read somewhere that you had to change to that plan to be charged that way. If you stay on your current plan you are on now, you will still use airtime when using GIT, or the web. Did I read wrong? Or do we all get swithced to the MB charge system coming out?.

From the formula used above on the actual cost, they might as well just add $.50 to the price of ringtones and games from GIT.

I and my family buy ringtones here and there, but going to a per mb charge will slow that way down, so actually in my case, verizon will be losing money from my five lines by going this route.

And I know I read that verizon is not a follower, they just proved that wrong here. Other carriers are doing it, so verizon might as well to. No...
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The.Game

Oct 15, 2007, 10:15 AM
As long as you do not change your rate plan, up or down after the 1st of November you will remain on the "Americas Choice". If you change your plan you will be put on the "Nationwide" plans.

If you upgrade your equipment, as long as you stay on the same plan you do not have to bump up to the Nationwide plans, you can stay on your current plan.

If you are on a single line and go to family share after the 1st you will be on Nationwide. So hurry up and add those lines now.

If you are on a Family share plan and want to add lines the new lines will stay on the "America's Choice"

Americas Choice = Mins of use for GIN,APPS, etc

Nationwide = Megabyte billing for downloads and apps.
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MidnightDT

Oct 15, 2007, 2:31 PM
look its nearly 2008. No one bills in minutes for Data anymore. it was time for VZW to step up and get with the times. 1.99$ a MB is CHEAP. sprint charges 30$ a meg! att charges 10$ a meg.

go complain about their prices.
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LordObento

Oct 15, 2007, 11:45 PM
These plan came about from customer complaining that they get overage from using too much Data. So... Would you rather be charged .45 a min using data or $1.99/MB.

I know some people are frugle and do it on Nights or Weekend. You don't have to change your plans.

As for Verizon not being a follower, they do stuff other carriers do... but do it better.

Verizon charges ETF's like other carrier, but now they prorate them

Verizon changed from 15 day to 30 day return policy like other carriers but they do Test Drive, so if you port out... You don't pay for your calls/service

Verizon now charges for data but 1.99 per MB vs the $10.24/MB (at&t) and $30.72/MB (Sprint)
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rjsumthin

Oct 16, 2007, 9:18 AM
Also take into consideration what alot of people don't hear. Its a concept as well as a ploy for money, again, anyone that begins to think verizon, at&t, Alltel, any company... isn't trying to "nickel and dime" their customer... you are naive.

The fact is Verizon does it in a way and can market it to the point that they can still get away with it until another company knocks them off their "Our **** don't stink pile" and takes their place. Either way, I digress, onto the subject.

I work in a call center, I don't necessarily LOVE these new plans, but it is going to cause just as much complaining as "Oh why do I have to use airtime to send pictures or download ring tones or browse?"

No one will be happy with either policy, I get c...
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rjsumthin

Oct 16, 2007, 9:22 AM
Just a thought. Furthermore, the people that are downloading ringtones could potentially benefit as well.

Depending on how long they are browsing compared to airtime. Just an off chance but still. 5 lines spending about 30 minutes a piece per month on the GIN apps. Thats 150 minutes, that could be the difference of moving down a price plan or not.

It's not unusual to see that kind of browsing on the GIN platform.
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