anyone think we will be around??
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just want to know what other people think
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i see them getting bought out!!
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dunno maybe alltel! Actually Sprint or verizon would also benifit. They have coverage in West Virgina and Maine.
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And how would someone be able to buy us out when we're buying up other markets? ๐ No, we're not nationwide like the Big Four, but we are a force to be reckoned with and NOT going anywhere anytime soon. Hands down, our coverage is way better. People call me every day jumping ship from Alltel, Sprint, and Verizon because they can't get half decent coverage there and all their friends with USCC talk about the great coverage they get...so in five years, I see USCC expanding, if anything.
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thats what i like to hear
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I would have to agree with that statement. I have been with USC going on 5 years now. They are slow with some things but do provide an EXCELLENT network. Plus they have the financial backing of TDS.
Not to mention their stock is the highest valued domestic wireless provider closing at $69.83 today. Up $1.63/share. USC does not hold the MASSIVE debt that many other carriers do. I believe that Verizon Wireless debt was in the $32B range last time I checked.
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i don't know the big boy's can buy you even if you don't want to be bought. โน๏ธ ๐
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The other thing you have to consider is the anti-trust laws. None of these carriers will be able to take USC over unless they grant the sale.
Also, the Department of Justice may say that a merger is ok BUT it still has to pass through the FCC. It is going to be EXCEEDINGLY difficult for Verizon or Sprint to buy USC because of the anti trust laws. The only other possiblity would be Alltel.
This is why the AT&T merger is being held up.
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I worked for USC about two years ago for three years. This company is so focused on the customer and growth that I don't see any reason for them not to be around in five years. As long as some bone-head doesn't get in the top office, USC will be fine. They continue to offer excellent plans and features. Their network is one of the best I've had the honor of being on. I currently live in Utah where USC, sadly, has no presence. However, if they ever did show up here I'd be jumping on that ship in a heartbeat. Their growth is quite impressive.
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Agreed. Our stock is high, we are continuing to expand. We do not really make sense as a prospect for Verizon or Sprint. Alltel is the most likely to to be interested. Our two market shares would make for a very interesting and formidable marriage.
I don't see it happening anytime soon...... another five years.. who knows..... maybe we will buy em all ๐
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USCellular by their own admission is not buying or expanding markets for several years. The MSA they bought in NC won't be developed for at least 3-5 years. US Cellular does have good stock prices but their organization is a facade and they may get bought out. See my rant under USC SUX.
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drksyde said:
The other thing you have to consider is the anti-trust laws. None of these carriers will be able to take USC over unless they grant the sale.
Also, the Department of Justice may say that a merger is ok BUT it still has to pass through the FCC. It is going to be EXCEEDINGLY difficult for Verizon or Sprint to buy USC because of the anti trust laws. The only other possiblity would be Alltel.
This is why the AT&T merger is being held up.
Another thing to consider with Verizon was that they were forced to divest 20mhz of PCS licenses when Verizon acquired Primeco & Ameritech Cellular in Illinois & Northern Indiana. I don't know if Verizon would be allowed to reacquire those licenses today ...
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Why would Alltel buy us out when they sold us a chunk of Cell One during that buy out? No one is going to buy out U.S. Cellular, at least not anytime soon and anyone that knows anything about buisness, finance, marketing and such knows that. All this talk is just from a bunch of dissatisfied employees (probably from the call centers) griping about their company. If any of them acctually went out to the front lines and paid attention then they would see a loyal and rabid customer base. U.S. Cellular is going nowhere but up, guarenteed!!!!!!!
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I didn't say they weren't. And just because your going up doesn't mean you can't get bought. Voicestream was doing damn good buying up GSM carriers all over the country then one day they themselves get bought by a germen company called tmobile! So your point is?
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wombough said:
I didn't say they weren't. And just because your going up doesn't mean you can't get bought. Voicestream was doing damn good buying up GSM carriers all over the country then one day they themselves get bought by a germen company called tmobile! So your point is?
you are right i work for weyerhaeuser and we bought servial companys in the last few year's that want for sell.it call hostile take over. ๐คจ ๐ณ
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It Just frightens me a little that if you hold up Verizons rate guide next to ours... the national plans perfectly mirror each other.
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good taste in the potent potables my friend the Grey goose is loose
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It indeed is, even though Im more of an Effen fan ๐คค
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More of a level or belvedere man my self, nothing better then a capecodder or belvedere
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Would it technically be a buyout if alltel buys us? We both have TDS as our parent company.
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firephoenix said:
Would it technically be a buyout if alltel buys us? We both have TDS as our parent company.
TDS is the parent company of both Alltel and USCC? Huh? You must be joking.
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in 2004:
Alltel offers instant connection with Touch2Talk service
ALLTEL acquires wireless assets from U.S. Cellular and TDS Telecom.
ALLTEL invested more than $1 billion to improve and expand its local telephone and digital wireless networks.
They acquired assets from TDS and USCC. Were does it say they became the property of them?
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Just going by what I was told. Don't hang me for it. ๐
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US Cellular has no name recognition, in my area they have the best coverage but they have one corporate store, and they have nowhere close to the number of gross ads as we have.
USCC picks up great in the sticks, but I don't see that propelling them into the mainstream, but being more of a niche carrier. I don't see Alltel buying USCC out, there are lots of markets that Alltel and USCC both occupy, my ex-girlfriend trained some USCC stores that switched from Alltel b/c they were bought out by USCC during the Western Wireless and Cell One mergers of Alltel.
So I don't see Alltel buying them out.
Sprint is gonna have tight pockets for a little while. But in five years, EVDO and WiMax could be all the rave and I see a USCC buyout bein...
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SprintLynchburg_VA said:
US Cellular has no name recognition, in my area they have the best coverage but they have one corporate store, and they have nowhere close to the number of gross ads as we have.
USCC picks up great in the sticks, but I don't see that propelling them into the mainstream, but being more of a niche carrier. I don't see Alltel buying USCC out, there are lots of markets that Alltel and USCC both occupy, my ex-girlfriend trained some USCC stores that switched from Alltel b/c they were bought out by USCC during the Western Wireless and Cell One mergers of Alltel.
So I don't see Alltel buying them out.
Sprint is gonna have tight pockets for a little while. But in five years, EVDO and WiMax could
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US Cellular? Cellular makes people think old technology imho, there is little or no national name recognition with the name, it sounds like Brand X Wireless. They bought a lot of non cellular spectrum in the AWS auction, so they might be moving to higher spectrum, which negates the name cellular. I don't see a US Cellular in 5 years, sorry. I live in a town where they have been forever 18 years, noone knows who they are, and they have the best coverage. Helio and Amp'd have more name recognition. Thats embarrasing in my opinion. I send customers to USCC when we can't offer them coverage, and the usual responses are "I don't want to deal with a reseller", "Is that a cell phone company?", and my personal favorite, "I'm gonna have to get a bag ...
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Reseller? That's funny, considering that both Amp'd and Helio are resellers and USCC isn't. USCC does need to do some better advertising and either get their name out more or change to a better one!
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US Cellular gets confused a lot with One Stop Cellular which has a better ad campaign. ๐คฃ
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You have a lot of good points my friend. Sadly I agree with you almost 100%. I have been with USC as an agent for nearly 5 years. It's frustrating to have a great company standing behind you but no proper marketing to support it.
This is the only part of this business where bigger is better. Throwing a name out there, like Helio, Amp'd etc and putting some seriously creative ads and lots of money behind them.
USC needs to find a new marketing company or marketing team. I stand behind them investing in great advertisments, increasing the amount of co-op money available to their agents which count for 70% of their distribution so that they can disperse the ads for them. Regulate the message that way...
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Amen, brother! I agree, if USCC were to invest in better advertising, rather than doing penny razrs in local areas, it would be a better investment. Look at the great job Alltel has done with advertising. Doing National advertising even though they are a regional company has really done well for them.
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Here is the financial info about US Cellular that makes them a very difficult company to "buyout". Not only do they have TDS's backing but their main stock value is the best in the country with Alltel ironically the only company that comes close to having the same value and is still $10 less per share.
What you really need to look at below is the amount of outstanding and floating shares and multiply that by the $68.76/share value. This stock symbol is USM on the AMX.
Thats an incredible value! Plus take into account their other stock valued at $14 and change per share. Traded under symbol UZV.
They are really a financial giant with a lot going for them. They just need someone to lead them in the marketing dept.
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i dint understand the stock stuff but we've talked about this before drksyde but isn't or wasn't midwest wireless back in part by TDS and they were bought out by alltel right?
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Yeah. It doesn't matter how big of a company you are. You are subject to buyout. Directv did not want to be bought when dish offered, They rejected Dish and Dish went to GM direct and they said sure great but the FCC turned it down as they are the only two DBS companies!
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Midwest Wireless was a privately owned company that TDS was the majority investor in. TDS had nothing to do with the sale of the company BESIDES the fact they received $100M out of the deal for their portion of the company. MW chose to sell out.
US Cellular COULD be bought out and merged BUT they have to go through the stockholders of US Cellular and have to go through TDS to do so. Its fairly complicated but that is the simplified terminology.
The definition of hostile takeover:
occurs when a company attempts to buy out another whether they like it or not. A hostile takeover can occur only through publicly traded shares, as it requires the acquirer to bypass the board of directors and purchase the shares from other sources. This...
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i see i do know that we have talked some about this before... probley not going to happen (someone buying out uscc) then but if a company did buy them out i hope it's not verizon i hate them...
i do know they need a name change with better advertising...
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I hope all new management from the bottom up
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I love working for USCC and I love having a USCC phone and service. I seriously do not for see them being bought out but I wouldn't be surprised if they bought someone else out. USCC has been and will be growing. No provider does for it's customers what USCC does for theirs and for that I've never been prouder to stand behind a company I work for. And someone please tell me (honestly cause I don't know) but can a CDMA network join with a GSM network? Wouldn't it cost more the switch towers and whatever else that involves.. not to mention to upgrade customers to new equipment?? So that leaves Verizon, Alltel, and other smaller companies?
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So that leaves Verizon, Alltel, and other smaller companies?
Ahem. lets not forget Sprint, which love them or hate them, can't be called a "smaller company"
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Will you be around? Absolutely yes. You have too good of a business model to fail. I can see you merging with another tier 2 carrier such as Alltel and creating the fifth tier 1 carrier. Verizon would gain little from buying you because you have no New York, or L.A. licenses where they need bandwidth. Iowa, rural Oklahoma and NorthCarolina mean little to them. Sprint will gain absolutely nothing to buy you and besides they are kinda pre-occupied with this Nextel thing.
The only company it would make sense to buy you would be Alltel to complete a nationwide footprint for both carriers. It would be a merger of quasi-equals. Alltel-U.S. Cellular would be a great fit if you look at the licenses each company holds.
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I almost cry when I see responses so well thought out. I couldn't have said it better.
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