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Maybe next year. ATT hopes not.

andy2373

Apr 27, 2009, 1:17 AM
A VZW iPhone next year? Maybe.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article ... »


Apple May Hear Verizon Now

Sunday, April 26, 2009; 6:38 PM
At the risk of repeating myself for the millionth time, in many peoples' minds, the Achilles' heal of the iPhone is the network it's on in the US: AT&T. Since the day it was announced as being exclusive to that provider, people have been wondering one thing: How long until it's on Verizon? Rumors have surfaced time and again about the possibility, but today brings perhaps the most concrete news yet that the two sides are talking.

The two sides are discussing the possibility of getting Verizon version of the iPhone ready for 2010, sources tell
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Barking Cherry

Apr 27, 2009, 2:53 PM
Here's what USA TODAY had to say about it. Probably similar.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/phones/2009-04 ... »
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dromant

Apr 27, 2009, 8:08 PM
Don't see it happening. I'm pretty sure both Apple and Verizon have been on record saying there won't be a CDMA iPhone. If memory serves me right, one of Verizon's exec's did a recent interview in which he talked about an LTE iPhone - but not a CDMA iPhone. Apple has said the main reason they went with ATT is b/c they wanted a model that could be used wordlwide.

Think about it - why would Apple go to all this work to make a CDMA version iPhone for Verizon when Verizon is getting ready to switch to LTE? (Yes, I know that there are other countries using CDMA, but all the "rumors" are stating Apple is doing this for Verizon, not another international CDMA phone carrier). It makes absolutely no sense.

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andy2373

Apr 27, 2009, 9:13 PM

Think about it - why would Apple go to all this work to make a CDMA version iPhone for Verizon when Verizon is getting ready to switch to LTE? (Yes, I know that there are other countries using CDMA, but all the "rumors" are stating Apple is doing this for Verizon, not another international CDMA phone carrier). It makes absolutely no sense.



And just how hard would it be for Apple to put a CDMA chipset in the iPhone rather than what their currently using? 🤨
And you speak as if Verizon's LTE transition will happen as quick as a flip of a switch.
Heck rumor has it ATT had to slow down their EDGE network to get people to move to 3G handsets. 👀
It's all about money. Apples made some off ATT and th...
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dromant

Apr 27, 2009, 11:46 PM
One of the main reasons that Apple went with ATT was because they wanted to create one device - a GSM device, b/c they could sell more GSM devices worldwide. If it was that cheap and easy to plop a CDMA chipset in and make both kinds, why wouldn't they have done it from the beginning? Apple has all the control in their agreement with ATT - its probably one of the more one sided agreements ever hashed out between a phone manufacturer and cell phone carrier in recent history. Apple could have easily told ATT it wouldn't be an exclusive, that they would sell it on Verizon as well, and ATT would have taken it (and liked it 👿 )

Apple made a choice from the very beginning to only manufacture a GSM model, it makes no sense to change now, w...
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mycool

Apr 28, 2009, 7:51 AM
If it were merely a case of the phone being GSM, Apple would have also catered to T-Mobile. They didn't, so I don't see that being a strong arguement.

My guess on it is that Apple was looking for an exclusive agreement. It was probably more lucritive for them to take a portion of the monthly service than what they would get out of strictly selling handsets to all the US carriers.

Don't forget where the carriers make their money (hint: it isn't from the handset).
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andy2373

Apr 28, 2009, 1:28 PM

If it was that cheap and easy to plop a CDMA chipset in and make both kinds, why wouldn't they have done it from the beginning?

Because Verizon snubbed Apple & iPhone in the beginning.

it makes no sense to change now, when the most they will get is 2-3 year years of a CDMA iPhone lifespan on Verizon's network.

So in 2-3 years it'll be LTE and no more CDMA? And all those CDMA handset totting customers will be out of luck, they'll have to buy a new handset? Oh wait, I thought the 700 Mhz spectrum was for LTE and Verizon's current network and LTE would run together. Hence a CDMA iPhone would have a much longer life span with Verizon than 2-3 years.
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dromant

Apr 28, 2009, 3:56 PM
Before the trolls come out - I am not trying to explain this from an ATT is better than Verizon vantage point - I don't give a crap. I am attempting to explain this from an Apple standppoint.

I love how every Verizon person trots out the "we snubbed Apple" line. If Apple truly wanted to produce a CDMA iPhone, they would have negotiated with Verizon. Apple, as a company, basically has a "We're special - either you like it, or we go somewhere else attitude". Verizon didn't want to play ball, so they pitched it to ATT and ATT bent over backwards for them.

Sure, Apple could make a device with dual LTE/CDMA chipsets, but that really isn't Apple's style. Apple has a history of waiting until everything is where they want it, then launching a...
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epik

Apr 29, 2009, 9:39 AM
You're right on with most of your remark. Personally, I've never taken the position that Verizon snubbed Apple. I've always maintained that it wasn't the type of relationship that Verizon wanted, so they said "no, thanks."

On the aspect of the cost of making a CDMA iPhone, have you ever disassembled a Nokia phone? If you ever have the chance, look through similar GSM and CDMA models and you'd be surprised to learn that much of the circuitry is the same. In fact, CDMA Nokia phones often have the same space cut out of the circuit board and housing for the SIM card as their GSM cousins. The components are often practically the same.

In fact, I could show you multiple transceivers (speaking of two-way radios here) that transmit in dif...
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SwillVZWagent

Apr 28, 2009, 3:32 PM
Maybe you missed this little tidbit of info...

APPLE CAME TO VERIZON PITCHING THE IPHONE FIRST.

Verizon turned it down due to the outrageous amount of money and control wanted. Apple is not asking near as much as they did originally.

Also 6 months before the iphone came out the CEO of apple went on record saying there would be no iphone. So dont take what any CEO goes on record as saying as truth. Things change.

I'm not saying the iphone will surely come out on verizon, but if it did that be nice. I always said the iphone is a great device but horrible phone
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Kayslay34

Apr 28, 2009, 3:55 PM
I wouldnt mind it going to verizon, because people will be able to jailbreak it for sprint then. Then people will stop leaving sprint and verizon just for a iphone.
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dromant

Apr 28, 2009, 3:59 PM
or maybe not....

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/04/28/microsoft- ... »

Just what the world needs… Another iPhone killer. If the Wall Street Journal’s report is to be believed, it looks like that USA Today story may have omitted a relatively important detail regarding Verizon’s “iPhone” offering — it might not be an iPhone at all. Citing an apparently different group of “people familiar with the matter,” the Journal indicates that Big Red is currently in talks with Microsoft regarding a project with the codename “Pink”. Pink will be a Microsoft-designed iPhone rival with a multimedia focus and, undoubtedly, a big touchscreen. Acco...
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andy2373

Apr 28, 2009, 4:27 PM
Then again there's this report.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10228831-1.html? ... »


Over the last few months rumors have continued to swirl around a possible Verizon-Apple deal to bring the iPhone to Verizon once Apple's exclusive pact with AT&T expires in 2010. But Tuesday BusinessWeek added a new twist to the rumor, reporting that Verizon and Apple are in talks to develop two new wireless devices that may hit the market this year.

Allegedly, one device would be a thinner, lighter, and lower-priced version of the iPhone--an iPhone Lite, if you will. While the other device would be something akin to the jumbo iPod Touch that we wrote about previously. BusinessWeek's anonymous source describes it as a "media
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dromant

Apr 28, 2009, 4:32 PM
I bet Steve Jobs is leaning back in his chair just laughing away. Name one other company/product that generates more buzz with a bunch of unnamed sources saying this or that. Free advertising by just staying silent ( at least publicly )
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epik

Apr 29, 2009, 9:40 AM
Yeah, but he's probably got a nasty cough with that laugh.
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