Sprint's iDEN Base Drops 10% In One Quarter
Something some may no know
For Service and Repair, some people are actually able to, when they get their devices repaired for a qualifying issue where the device is defective, switch from a Nextel handset to an equivalent reconditioned Sprint CDMA based device, if a plan switch is necessary it does not extend the contract, etc.
These customers aren't fleeing the Nextel network, they're flocking to a more reliable network that has more to offer at what is still a very very good price.
With Sprint also rolling out another form of PTT (please, f***ing pick one and stay this time... I believe this will stick considering it is part of the multi-million Network Vision) this will enable these customers to immediately switch to one of these new devices with no change to...
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These customers aren't fleeing the Nextel network, they're flocking to a more reliable network that has more to offer at what is still a very very good price.
With Sprint also rolling out another form of PTT (please, f***ing pick one and stay this time... I believe this will stick considering it is part of the multi-million Network Vision) this will enable these customers to immediately switch to one of these new devices with no change to...
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Truthfully, I don't know how much of a market for Push to Talk exists anymore....most handsets don't support it, most customers don't know what it is, and these days most people seem to think that those kinds of simple conversations that they used to have with PTT are now better handled with text messages.
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T Bone said:
Truthfully, I don't know how much of a market for Push to Talk exists anymore....most handsets don't support it, most customers don't know what it is, and these days most people seem to think that those kinds of simple conversations that they used to have with PTT are now better handled with text messages.
PTT is still needed in business applications (where it actually orignated). Text messaging is not a substitute in a work environment where instant, hands-free communication is essential.
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Then you get a regular phone on a regular network that has a PTT button...maybe even a Sprint phone....there is absolutely no need to use Nextel
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Die hard Nextel customers are one thing, that is very self-descriptive, DIE HARD
The service for PTT is absolutely the best thing ever, for calling to Mexico for those with family there also amazing because you can use the PTT unlimited and talk internationally to Mexico for free. I don't need PTT, so I don't have one, but use one in our store for quick communication between the back office and front office area and man, does this thing mean business! If only they could find a way to integrate the two to where it didn't make the handsets cost a fortune and have to run two networks. If CDMA could get a PTT solution as fast and reliable as Nextel, it would get a ton of business.
The service for PTT is absolutely the best thing ever, for calling to Mexico for those with family there also amazing because you can use the PTT unlimited and talk internationally to Mexico for free. I don't need PTT, so I don't have one, but use one in our store for quick communication between the back office and front office area and man, does this thing mean business! If only they could find a way to integrate the two to where it didn't make the handsets cost a fortune and have to run two networks. If CDMA could get a PTT solution as fast and reliable as Nextel, it would get a ton of business.
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Die hard Nextel customers are one thing, that is very self-descriptive, DIE HARD
The service for PTT is absolutely the best thing ever, for calling to Mexico for those with family there also amazing because you can use the PTT unlimited and talk internationally to Mexico for free. I don't need PTT, so I don't have one, but use one in our store for quick communication between the back office and front office area and man, does this thing mean business! If only they could find a way to integrate the two to where it didn't make the handsets cost a fortune and have to run two networks. If CDMA could get a PTT solution as fast and reliable as Nextel, it would get a ton of business.
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Oh, I might add that this is one of a few features that Sprint's last CDMA answer to Nextel customers DID NOT support... I'll say it again, I hope for all the effort theyre putting into it this time they dont come up with another sub par alternative while shutting down the network and expecting those 8 mil subs to stick around.
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Nextel's Direct Connect(DC) is different than a Push To Talk(PTT)variant.
Since no current technology can duplicate "Direct Connect", I would find it very unlikely that Sprint or any other carrier would master the speed and accuracy of the IDEN network for instantaneous Walkie-Talkie.
I'm not sure of the current standing of Sprint's long term plans for this type of offering. But I need to state that if people are looking for an exact replica of Direct Connect, it is in all likelihood; futile.
I think the judging of Sprint's last attempts at PTT from people are somewhat unfair. Verizon and ATT have the provisions for PTT but have chosen to cease aggressive marketing for it. It has proved be inferior to DC not to mention that it is...
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Since no current technology can duplicate "Direct Connect", I would find it very unlikely that Sprint or any other carrier would master the speed and accuracy of the IDEN network for instantaneous Walkie-Talkie.
I'm not sure of the current standing of Sprint's long term plans for this type of offering. But I need to state that if people are looking for an exact replica of Direct Connect, it is in all likelihood; futile.
I think the judging of Sprint's last attempts at PTT from people are somewhat unfair. Verizon and ATT have the provisions for PTT but have chosen to cease aggressive marketing for it. It has proved be inferior to DC not to mention that it is...
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Nextel's Direct Connect(DC) is different than a Push To Talk(PTT)variant.
Since no current technology can duplicate "Direct Connect", I would find it very unlikely that Sprint or any other carrier would master the speed and accuracy of the IDEN network for instantaneous Walkie-Talkie.
I'm not sure of the current standing of Sprint's long term plans for this type of offering. But I need to state that if people are looking for an exact replica of Direct Connect, it is in all likelihood; futile.
I think the judging of Sprint's last attempts at PTT from people are somewhat unfair. Verizon and ATT have the provisions for PTT but have chosen to cease aggressive marketing for it. It has proved be inferi
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Can't one just make a friggin call? I mean, Sprint has free m2m to every carrier, never mind intra-network? I'm sure its well possible to make a durable well constructed cdma phone to be used by industry. Why does one have to roam around on iden, like some trailer park trash and act like a tool annoying everyone else? Heck, give them a mid or low end Android phone, no contract extensions, and I will nominate Sprint for a Noble Prize.
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Telling 8 million people that rely on instantaneous contact to take a hike, is not really a good decision. The extreme advantage to DC over other PTT offerings or voice calls, is the speed. These people consider anything less, an insult.
By the time you finish dialing(even speed dialing) a number on a cellular network and connect to your party, the short conversation or quick question you had looking for an answer, is already done and over with through DC.
I can't tell you how many times I miss that. It is that fast.
John B.
By the time you finish dialing(even speed dialing) a number on a cellular network and connect to your party, the short conversation or quick question you had looking for an answer, is already done and over with through DC.
I can't tell you how many times I miss that. It is that fast.
John B.
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Slammer said:
Telling 8 million people that rely on instantaneous contact to take a hike, is not really a good decision. The extreme advantage to DC over other PTT offerings or voice calls, is the speed. These people consider anything less, an insult.
By the time you finish dialing(even speed dialing) a number on a cellular network and connect to your party, the short conversation or quick question you had looking for an answer, is already done and over with through DC.
I can't tell you how many times I miss that. It is that fast.
John B.
Well said. As all of us Nextel DC users/fans have been trying to say, DC is an excellent, high-performing tool that is invaluable in some situations.
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Versed said:
Can't one just make a friggin call? I mean, Sprint has free m2m to every carrier, never mind intra-network? I'm sure its well possible to make a durable well constructed cdma phone to be used by industry. Why does one have to roam around on iden, like some trailer park trash and act like a tool annoying everyone else? Heck, give them a mid or low end Android phone, no contract extensions, and I will nominate Sprint for a Noble Prize.
To "Versed": I agree, there are plenty of inconsiderate people who misused Nextel DC and unnecessarily annoyed those around them. But that is a problem with a specific personality profile, not the fault of Nextel's DC capability.
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There are two things that we need to keep in mind here:
1) Nextel's DC protocol works independently from their normal cellphone feature. The common cellular network is actually split into two separate frequencies. One for transmitting and one for receiving. The Nextel DC feature uses a third separate frequency from their cellular and is dedicated just for the use of DC. This causes two problems. One is this becomes problematic in trying to breed the IDEN technology with CDMA technology. This such case is the PTT variant such as Verizon's. It is used over their 1xRTT of the CDMA network. This means congestion from normal calling can delay PTT up to as long as 12 seconds as opposed to Nextel's 1 second. The second is that unless the standi...
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1) Nextel's DC protocol works independently from their normal cellphone feature. The common cellular network is actually split into two separate frequencies. One for transmitting and one for receiving. The Nextel DC feature uses a third separate frequency from their cellular and is dedicated just for the use of DC. This causes two problems. One is this becomes problematic in trying to breed the IDEN technology with CDMA technology. This such case is the PTT variant such as Verizon's. It is used over their 1xRTT of the CDMA network. This means congestion from normal calling can delay PTT up to as long as 12 seconds as opposed to Nextel's 1 second. The second is that unless the standi...
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jrfdsf said:
PTT is still needed in business applications (where it actually orignated). Text messaging is not a substitute in a work environment where instant, hands-free communication is essential.
🤨 Hands free? How exactly do you operate the PTT button then?
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LoL.
Instant communication that only takes one hand to use is pretty useful in certain scenarios.
Construction work it is very useful to be able to tell 10 people in 10 different places at one time the samething.
Also drug dealers love it.
Instant communication that only takes one hand to use is pretty useful in certain scenarios.
Construction work it is very useful to be able to tell 10 people in 10 different places at one time the samething.
Also drug dealers love it.
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Well said. To your points I would add:
To all of these posters who offer their opinions that PTT is "irrelevant", how is it that you think you can speak for everyone else in the US? How is is that you are so smart that you know every situation that every other wireless customer is in, so that YOU know that texting is better than PTT in a given situation?
If PTT is so irrelevant, why is it that Verizon fell all over itself for the past 5+ years desparately trying (and failing) to emulate Nextel's PTT success? Same for ATT. Why do the two industry giants keep trying time and tme again to emulate little old Nextel? I dare y'all to ask yourselves those questions, because your answers should be very entertaining.
As a side bar, perhaps t...
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To all of these posters who offer their opinions that PTT is "irrelevant", how is it that you think you can speak for everyone else in the US? How is is that you are so smart that you know every situation that every other wireless customer is in, so that YOU know that texting is better than PTT in a given situation?
If PTT is so irrelevant, why is it that Verizon fell all over itself for the past 5+ years desparately trying (and failing) to emulate Nextel's PTT success? Same for ATT. Why do the two industry giants keep trying time and tme again to emulate little old Nextel? I dare y'all to ask yourselves those questions, because your answers should be very entertaining.
As a side bar, perhaps t...
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Caucasian said:
LoL.
Instant communication that only takes one hand to use is pretty useful in certain scenarios.
Construction work it is very useful to be able to tell 10 people in 10 different places at one time the samething.
Also drug dealers love it.
I vote for the latter.
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haha, its HAND FREE versus "hands free" slightly safer that both hands and eyes on the phone texting
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The demise of PTT would be well welcomed. Its way past the intended use of construction, delivery or other business use. While far less of a problem then a year or two ago, I won't have to listen to the chirp of iDEN and the nonsense conversations while out at dinner, or walking in some place like the mall. I don't understand why someone has to keep it through the speaker to tell her husband to pick up diapers because their kid has the craps.
Honestly, I hope they all enjoy their new cdma Android devices on Sprint.
Honestly, I hope they all enjoy their new cdma Android devices on Sprint.
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Caucasian said:
With Sprint also rolling out another form of PTT (please, f***ing pick one and stay this time...
How many have they tried? They had ReadyLink back before they bought Nextel. Then they've had QChat which came along with Nextel. They're now going to be rolling out an updated version of QChat, Qchat 2 if you will. Doesn't appear that they've tried this a whole lot of times like you make it seem...
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Ready Link - dead
Nextel - soon to be dead
QChat - dead
This will be the fourth attempt.
Most carriers pick one and stick to it, ultimately it is a massive pain the neck for customers who want a business solution that is going to be around a while. Shows a lack of faith in our own products/decisions, etc.
Nextel - soon to be dead
QChat - dead
This will be the fourth attempt.
Most carriers pick one and stick to it, ultimately it is a massive pain the neck for customers who want a business solution that is going to be around a while. Shows a lack of faith in our own products/decisions, etc.
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Seriously, try being that guy that convinces the CEO of the company that its cost effective and a great boost in productivity to switch to this new Direct Talk service from Sprint "its everything Nextel used to be but better because its on Sprints nationwide network which has more coverage and is overall faster and more reliable!" Then Sprint pulls the plug on the service leaving you looking like the big idiot as the crap phones break and need to be replaced and there are none to be had... Nextel was and still is the longest running most reliable PTT service for businesses, and with every "better" solution Sprint tries, they alienate more and more people from even the idea of PTT... Not to mention since day one they've promised to shutter t...
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