Union Authorizes Strike Against AT&T
With so many people unemployed right now
I don't see this strike sitting well with the general public. Refusing to work because you are not getting a raise and you are having to pay some more for your health care is not an uncommon union move, but doing so in a recession with unemployment on the rise is just really bad timing.
Just because you have a union, doesn't mean you are immune to the reality of the times.
Just because you don't understand the obligations and business strategies required to keep a company growing, does not other's can't either. Didn't AT&T just cut over 20K jobs last year?
A strike is a risk. Apparently it's a risk the members have agreed is worth taking. Is your union going to pay your rent for you while you are not going to work (and as I und...
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Just because you have a union, doesn't mean you are immune to the reality of the times.
Just because you don't understand the obligations and business strategies required to keep a company growing, does not other's can't either. Didn't AT&T just cut over 20K jobs last year?
A strike is a risk. Apparently it's a risk the members have agreed is worth taking. Is your union going to pay your rent for you while you are not going to work (and as I und...
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taoareyou said:...
I don't see this strike sitting well with the general public. Refusing to work because you are not getting a raise and you are having to pay some more for your health care is not an uncommon union move, but doing so in a recession with unemployment on the rise is just really bad timing.
Just because you have a union, doesn't mean you are immune to the reality of the times.
Just because you don't understand the obligations and business strategies required to keep a company growing, does not other's can't either. Didn't AT&T just cut over 20K jobs last year?
A strike is a risk. Apparently it's a risk the members have agreed is worth taking. Is your union going to pay your rent for you while you
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Part of the dispute centers on unrealistic quotas being placed on workers by management that are intentionally designed to harass them into either quitting, or being fired.
Let's hope the unions have some documentation or management to testify to directly support this claim.
I know from personal experience this is an across the board practice that companies all over America are putting into place that allows them to legally harass and fire high paid workers that they then can replace with low wage, non-unionized contracted labor.
What can you reference to back up this claim?
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The end result of letting corporations get away with doing this is that in the not so very
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taoareyou said:
Let's hope the unions have some documentation or management to testify to directly support this claim.
What can you reference to back up this claim?
Unfortunately, to do so would jeopardize my own job, even though these forums are set up with anonymous user names. I can tell you this: as a manager, I am privy to information that isn't shared with the folks out on the production floor. I know for a fact that management lies about the real purpose behind policies they implement, and many actively seek ways to terminate workers they dislike. This is reality.
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I don't think companies want to revert the economy to an early 1900's standard of living
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I don't believe AT&T is hiring illegals or spaced out druggies. I'm sorry you work for a company that doesn't have employment standards, has management that is deceptive and doesn't care about their employees.
However, that does not mean every company is like that.
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However, that does not mean every company is like that.
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I know from personal experience this is an across the board practice that companies all over America are putting into place that allows them to legally harass and fire high paid workers that they then can replace with low wage, non-unionized contracted labor.
This is a pretty big claim. When I asked for validation you told me that you work for a really shady company that hires illegals and drug users and has management (which you claim to be pa
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Obviously they are willing to take that risk. It is not your job on the line, is it? Unions which never strike are basically toothless lions. I never thought that I would see the day that the CWA would strike. I thought when they originally came to Cingular that they were pawns of corporate with a no trade agreement? I don't know. I look forward to seeing what happens. Very intersting...
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first of all, if the quotas are so unreasonable, then why isn't 3/4 of the sales force gone? secondly, if the company WANTED to get rid of reps, then why do they hire more to replace the ones that leave?
the fact of the matter is that wireless companies need ARPU to go up. they need subs to go up. they want to make money like any other RETAIL store does. they need GOOD sales reps to do this.
while i agree that the company has made some questionable decisions, especially the piece of **** health benefits they offer, i do not agree that the retail reps need so much more time off and extra raises over what they already get, and even MORE quota relief.
management is not getting a raise this year PERIOD. the reps should be lucky for what...
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the fact of the matter is that wireless companies need ARPU to go up. they need subs to go up. they want to make money like any other RETAIL store does. they need GOOD sales reps to do this.
while i agree that the company has made some questionable decisions, especially the piece of **** health benefits they offer, i do not agree that the retail reps need so much more time off and extra raises over what they already get, and even MORE quota relief.
management is not getting a raise this year PERIOD. the reps should be lucky for what...
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they dont care. they would rather make their commissions.
any workers who strike will not get quota relief while striking, so they are only hurting themselves.
any workers who strike will not get quota relief while striking, so they are only hurting themselves.
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I don't believe your correct on that. A lot of states have are Right To Work states. The most a Union could do was levy a fine against you, and kick you out of the union.
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You are a fool. You call the reps kids and you say they are the same as a right aid worker, you are so ignorant. Then you go and say they have mortgages and day care, that doesn't sound like kids to me. You are just bitter because you are in management and think because they took your raise they should take everyones raise. I know when you were on the call you were pissed and wished you had a union to stand to for you. And no one runs and hides under the union, because if you really are a bad rep not making quota the union can't help at all. The union is there when no one in the store makes quota and the company still wants to write everyone up blaming it on the reps insted of poor traffic or crazy quotas.
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first of all, i making a general statement and then following it up with a detail statement, providing more specifics as to the REASONS people here arent going to strike.
second of all, they ARE the same as a rite aid worker - they are RETAIL REPS. they sell retail goods at a cash register. they work most holidays and weekends, including sundays. like i said i spent 2 years as a rep. i didnt try to fool myself into thinking i was something more than i really was. that's why i moved on.
i could care less about them "taking my raise". i still make more in base pay than them.
and, no, i dont wish i had a union to stand behind me. i had that for 2 years. i paid my dues. i didn't see a return on that investment.
so many "write ups" ge...
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second of all, they ARE the same as a rite aid worker - they are RETAIL REPS. they sell retail goods at a cash register. they work most holidays and weekends, including sundays. like i said i spent 2 years as a rep. i didnt try to fool myself into thinking i was something more than i really was. that's why i moved on.
i could care less about them "taking my raise". i still make more in base pay than them.
and, no, i dont wish i had a union to stand behind me. i had that for 2 years. i paid my dues. i didn't see a return on that investment.
so many "write ups" ge...
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first of all, i making a general statement and then following it up with a detail statement, providing more specifics as to the REASONS people here arent going to strike.
second of all, they ARE the same as a rite aid worker - they are RETAIL REPS. they sell retail goods at a cash register. they work most holidays and weekends, including sundays. like i said i spent 2 years as a rep. i didnt try to fool myself into thinking i was something more than i really was. that's why i moved on.
i could care less about them "taking my raise". i still make more in base pay than them.
and, no, i dont wish i had a union to stand behind me. i had that for 2 years. i paid my dues. i didn't see a return on that in
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I don't think the auto industry's problems can be placed solely on UAW. The fact that they dumped the EV technology that they had same as Toyota and allowed Toyota to leverage it for hybrids while they did nothing. The fact that their CEOs make more than their Japanese counterparts and are not as profitable play some role in it.
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Azeron said:
I don't think the auto industry's problems can be placed solely on UAW. The fact that they dumped the EV technology that they had same as Toyota and allowed Toyota to leverage it for hybrids while they did nothing. The fact that their CEOs make more than their Japanese counterparts and are not as profitable play some role in it.
the american auto companies problems started WAY before hybrids were even an idea. i agree that the problems are not ONLY UAV, i think that is a major reason.
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This entire thing is crazy. What is the agenda of the people posting here? If they strike...they strike. I cannot wait to see what happens. All this bitterness and hatred as though you have a personal Just sit back and chill out.
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My main vote for yes is because AT&T wants to remove a paid holiday and wants to remove severence pay.. so if you quit, resign and work until the day you said you would they will not pay you out for accrued unused vacation. Thats ridiculous!!! We already are not guarenteed holidays off to lose the extra pay on a day you have to work on a holiday sucks. I also want to be paid equal to landline with fewer customers. We all know we will be consolidating jobs with landline services..on top of all of the crap we have to do now for mobility to learn landline services and deal with that and be paid considerably less sucks. I LOVE MY JOB! I am happy to have my job! Do not get me wrong but those are the reasons I voted yes to a strike. Had the...
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