Cingular Lets 3G Data Info Slip
HA HA!
Yet again GSM fails to catch upto CDMA. The data speeds are no where near what evdo has! Not to worry, europe has millions of users who have no choice but to accept it, so atleast all of you poor gsm useres will not be lonely!
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Okay, just because Cingular is advertising those speeds doesn't mean that is what they will actually be. Can you give them a chance to release it first? They already raised the (soont to be) advertised speeds onces.
1. They have the option of capping speeds. They will most likely raise the speeds after their first release.
2. They are underpromising so as to not disappoint the consumers. Why tell your customers they'll be getting 3mbps before you are sure of it?
That's the wireless business...
1. They have the option of capping speeds. They will most likely raise the speeds after their first release.
2. They are underpromising so as to not disappoint the consumers. Why tell your customers they'll be getting 3mbps before you are sure of it?
That's the wireless business...
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RUFF1415 said:
2. They are underpromising so as to not disappoint the consumers. Why tell your customers they'll be getting 3mbps before you are sure of it?
Sure about that, are you?
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Yes, because they've raised the "advertised" speeds once already. It wouldn't be wise to promise your customers 3mbps before you know that's what you can offer. Make sense?
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RUFF1415 said:
Yes, because they've raised the "advertised" speeds once already. It wouldn't be wise to promise your customers 3mbps before you know that's what you can offer. Make sense?
Oh, it made sense before...I'm just convinced that nobody really knows what kind of speeds we'll see when the service is launched and running nationwide. Remember how 1RxTT supported speeds up to 144kbps?
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Remember how 1RxTT supported speeds up to 144kbps?
Oh, it made sense before...I'm just convinced that nobody really knows what kind of speeds we'll see when the service is launched and running nationwide.
Well reports of speeds by consumers in markets where UMTS (and technically HSDPA, but not officially) has been launched have shown that sustained speeds are much higher than Cingular is planning to initially advertise. An example of this can be read in the Cingular forum over on Howard Forums.
Remember how 1RxTT supported speeds up to 144kbps?
That proves my point. Cingular doesn't want to advertise something that consumers will never see, hence the und...
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stevelvl said:
i actually get close to 210 on my 1xtrr card....
I've never seen 1XRTT speeds that fast...on anything.
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It depends on how you test. There is no international standard for testing wireless data speeds. Many overblown data tests (like over 200 kbps using 1xRTT) include the effects of compression on the transfer speed. As a result, they could be 2 or 3 times the actual data transfer speed.
DSL Reports uses MP3 files (up to 600 kb) which are almost incompressible. You could also use an FTP site and measure the transfer speed. These sorts of tests will provide a good indication of the actual data transfer speeds.
DSL Reports uses MP3 files (up to 600 kb) which are almost incompressible. You could also use an FTP site and measure the transfer speed. These sorts of tests will provide a good indication of the actual data transfer speeds.
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RUFF1415 said:...Remember how 1RxTT supported speeds up to 144kbps?Oh, it made sense before...I'm just convinced that nobody really knows what kind of speeds we'll see when the service is launched and running nationwide.
Well reports of speeds by consumers in markets where UMTS (and technically HSDPA, but not officially) has been launched have shown that sustained speeds are much higher than Cingular is planning to initially advertise. An example of this can be read in the Cingular forum over on Howard Forums.Remember how 1RxTT supported speeds up to 144kbps?
That proves my point. Cingular doesn't want to advertise something that cons
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I have tested my own hardware and have actually gotten 144 kbps using 1xRTT. This was under unusual circumstances, but it was possible for consumers to acheive this. I routinely get better than 100 kbps.
The UNMTS hype of 2 mpbs has never been reached by consumers. In fact, even 384 kbps is as rarely acheived as 144 kbps on 1xRTT.
It appears as if Cingular is telling everyone that HSDPA will provide a downlink that is roughly 2X what UMTS will provide with a similar uplink speed. This is a significant improvement and gets their highspeed data (downlink) to about what EV-DO Rev 0 provides.
When AT&T launched EDGE, they made promises that they could keep, although they were still a bit high on average downlink speeds. No one could a...
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The UNMTS hype of 2 mpbs has never been reached by consumers. In fact, even 384 kbps is as rarely acheived as 144 kbps on 1xRTT.
It appears as if Cingular is telling everyone that HSDPA will provide a downlink that is roughly 2X what UMTS will provide with a similar uplink speed. This is a significant improvement and gets their highspeed data (downlink) to about what EV-DO Rev 0 provides.
When AT&T launched EDGE, they made promises that they could keep, although they were still a bit high on average downlink speeds. No one could a...
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ACtually, 1xRTT DOES support 144 kbps. The conditions need to be right for this, just like UMTS supporting 384 kbps. It is possible, but there can not be many other users connected to the same tower.
The HSDPA uplink of 40 - 60 kbps is not as good as 1xRTT or EV-DO. This is only a little better than GPRS. Remember that 1xRTT is symetrical (the uplink and downlink are similar). EV-DO Rev 0, UMTS, and HSDPA are asymetrical (the uplink is much slower than the downlink).
The HSDPA uplink of 40 - 60 kbps is not as good as 1xRTT or EV-DO. This is only a little better than GPRS. Remember that 1xRTT is symetrical (the uplink and downlink are similar). EV-DO Rev 0, UMTS, and HSDPA are asymetrical (the uplink is much slower than the downlink).
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Bugwart said:
ACtually, 1xRTT DOES support 144 kbps. The conditions need to be right for this, just like UMTS supporting 384 kbps. It is possible, but there can not be many other users connected to the same tower.
The HSDPA uplink of 40 - 60 kbps is not as good as 1xRTT or EV-DO. This is only a little better than GPRS. Remember that 1xRTT is symetrical (the uplink and downlink are similar). EV-DO Rev 0, UMTS, and HSDPA are asymetrical (the uplink is much slower than the downlink).
I would bet my paycheck that the uplink is misprinted. I get those uplink speeds with EDGE now. UMTS has an uplink around 128 and HSDPA isn't supposed to improve that by much.
I think the article is supposed to say 140-160....
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Perhaps they are underpromising a little (10 or 20%) to counter the incredible hype of 14 mbps when HSDPA was announced. This was and is pure bovine feces.
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Bugwart said:
Perhaps they are underpromising a little (10 or 20%) to counter the incredible hype of 14 mbps when HSDPA was announced. This was and is pure bovine feces.
Actually it's not bull crap at all.
HSDPA with HSUPA and MIMO will have a downlink speed of up to 20mbps and an uplink in the 10-15mbps range according to the ITA standard.
Not one company or carrier ever said that HSDPA will have 14 mbps the day it comes out.
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Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? All you need to do is cackle and add "mwahahaha" onto the end of your statement, and you would fit into an Austin Powers movie as one of Dr. Evil's henchmen. 🙄 Why don't you calm down and focus your energy on something productive rather than "teasing" people the way one would do when in first grade.
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