Motorola V710
To alllll the liars out there with phony info
By the way no pun intended with the Phony...Verizon has no idea when the new firmware will be coming out or when anything will be coming out..i have been calling various locations where verizon is and they all gave the same resonse " i dont know"...i went to a store in NYC...Long Island..and NJ..they all gave same responses..plus for three weeks now i have called *611 and got the same responses that they really dont know...its totally relying on Motorola not verizon, verizon has no idea, so pllllease stop with all the lies.
Thank You
Fellow V710 User
Thank You
Fellow V710 User
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Not all true 😳 , VZW does control the release of the software. It works like the government 🙂 , The Pres. (Moto) puts forth an idea. This then has to be approved by congress (VZW) before it is passed on. So depending on what is found in testing VZW may release the software, or sent it back to Moto for some tweaks then test again. Just be glad it doesn't take as long as the government 🤣 .
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My advice to everyone is to just take all info at less then face value -- you know like the canadian dollar. when this flash comes out there will be alot more then one or two people with it. I am going to wait and see what every one says before i think about trying -- like is obex there is tf still functional
the usuals but until then why even worry about it let people say what they will and wait and see
it is all you can do after all
rob
the usuals but until then why even worry about it let people say what they will and wait and see
it is all you can do after all
rob
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P2LaYaGD said:
Verizon has no idea when the new firmware will be coming out or when anything will be coming out
The problem really seems to be "Company Policy" as different Customer Service reps give different information.
Last week, I got a December date and this weekend, to the same question I got this:
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Dear Verizon Wireless Customer,
Thank you for contacting the Verizon Wireless website.
At this time we do not have a time frame as to when a new firmware for the V710 will be available. We apologize for the misinformation, but December 2004 is not the correct answer. We apologize for the inconvience. It is part of our company policy not to release information regarding upcoming pr
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It is hard for the people that you and i can reach to talk with to know. they are so far down the chain that they might not know about the upgrade or the release date of a certain phone until a week or a day before release.
seems to me that verizon is so big that one hand doesn't know what the other is doing so i guess i am in a holding pattern because so far the best answers i have recieved from verizon (or moto too for that matter ) are the ones where they ignore my questions
rob
seems to me that verizon is so big that one hand doesn't know what the other is doing so i guess i am in a holding pattern because so far the best answers i have recieved from verizon (or moto too for that matter ) are the ones where they ignore my questions
rob
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Rob -- I see you've also been active on Howard Forums. What's you're take on the guy that claims to have the V710 beta firmware? Any progress by anybody out there with his code that you're aware? I was a bit weenie once and played at that level -- but I've been too far removed from it these days. It's tempting try to jump back in though.
-jim
-jim
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I have taken a wiat and see on that thread -- it has taken a wierd turn now in that it is going toward a request for what we would like to see rather then a notice of existing firmware. superdave posted that the firmware exists and to date he has seemed (pun intended) to know what he is talking about. I am hopefull but there is a pert of me that thinks when the firmware comes out a fair amount of the people who flash their phones might wish they hadn't
there is also some threads on hof indicating that the "altell flash" that was devised might have some unforseen side effects and that the phone might niot register properly with verizon networks and cause you to be charged plan minuets as opposed to in network minuets
that is interesti...
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there is also some threads on hof indicating that the "altell flash" that was devised might have some unforseen side effects and that the phone might niot register properly with verizon networks and cause you to be charged plan minuets as opposed to in network minuets
that is interesti...
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Jim,
I was also reading the posts from that guy who has furnished screen captures of the PDF regarding the new beta firmware release. I was reading the screen captures and I find them to be quite credible. It seems to me that this guy is either an engineer for Moto. or some sort of QA tester for Moto. The PDF seems to be a list of directives from VZW on what they want to accomplish with this beta firmware.
In case you don't know which documents I'm referring to, they are here:
http://geocities.com/motorola_v710/ »
-Matt
I was also reading the posts from that guy who has furnished screen captures of the PDF regarding the new beta firmware release. I was reading the screen captures and I find them to be quite credible. It seems to me that this guy is either an engineer for Moto. or some sort of QA tester for Moto. The PDF seems to be a list of directives from VZW on what they want to accomplish with this beta firmware.
In case you don't know which documents I'm referring to, they are here:
http://geocities.com/motorola_v710/ »
-Matt
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Matt,
Thanks for the link. I almost felt sorry for this guy the way he was attacked on HoFo.
-jim
Thanks for the link. I almost felt sorry for this guy the way he was attacked on HoFo.
-jim
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WTF.. did you guys read the one about Remove the feature you can put songs from computer to phone thru transflash. NO WAYYYYYYY. what would be the point of the card then. Oh well. this software release can go s*ck it.
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I'm not a lawyer by any stretch -- but it seems to me that taking away functionality that was present when first purchased would likely be something where might get some legal support. (unless of course they have some disclaimers in the contract for this kind of activity)
I'm just going to sit back, watch and wait. The features of this phone were more of a fun thing than a need, and frankly this is taking all of the fun out of it. When it stops being fun, then it's time to buy your way out and say adios to Verizon. That's just about where I'm at! This firmware release will be the test, if it ever happens. It's a neat phone -- but none of us needs this BS
I'm just going to sit back, watch and wait. The features of this phone were more of a fun thing than a need, and frankly this is taking all of the fun out of it. When it stops being fun, then it's time to buy your way out and say adios to Verizon. That's just about where I'm at! This firmware release will be the test, if it ever happens. It's a neat phone -- but none of us needs this BS
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You all don't have a lawsuit. Bluetooth doesn't fit Verizons business model. Despite motorola showing what kind of features the V710 has, this was a marketing stunt by motorola to advertise the phone to various carriers. sorry you are not happy with your equipment. As a sales rep, I feel you all have been duped by your rep who didn't fully disclose what the phone would and wouldn't do...
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You're right!! ..........and misrepresentation of a product is a legal issue.
You call it duped -- I call it misrepresented, either way it's a problem that could have legal consequences. It's not my choice of action, but some will choose legal action --- and I sincerely wish then success!
You call it duped -- I call it misrepresented, either way it's a problem that could have legal consequences. It's not my choice of action, but some will choose legal action --- and I sincerely wish then success!
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Visioneer said:
You're right!! ..........and misrepresentation of a product is a legal issue.
You call it duped -- I call it misrepresented, either way it's a problem that could have legal consequences. It's not my choice of action, but some will choose legal action --- and I sincerely wish then success!
The Class Action Suit is alive and well at V710.org, now that the 4 month statute has passed, since the release of the phone.
They are going after Verizon, Motorola and the Bluetooth Standards group for authorizing the use of the "Bluetooth Trademark" without disclosing the limitations of the profiles in the V710.
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I can tell you for SURE that the software is still in TESTING. Will fix some bluetooth syncing capabilities with hands free car kits ie lexus bmw, etc,, headset will ring as well as phone when called, and no MP3 ringtones transfer via transflash. Deal with it.
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I have worked in the wireless industry for 12 years now. Let me tell you how it works.
A phone manufacturer comes out with a software update. The manufacturer tests it internally amongst themselves. It then has to be "blessed" by Qualcomm if it's their chipset. Then, once that is done, it's passed on to the carrier (Verizon). Verizon then does their own qualification testing to make sure the software works on their network. They are ultimately responsible if there are glitches because the customer is going to come screaming to them, not Motorola (in most cases). Believe me, they take their time and do very extensive testing.
So ultimately, Motorola and Verizon are equally responsible for getting you the software update. I'd say...
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A phone manufacturer comes out with a software update. The manufacturer tests it internally amongst themselves. It then has to be "blessed" by Qualcomm if it's their chipset. Then, once that is done, it's passed on to the carrier (Verizon). Verizon then does their own qualification testing to make sure the software works on their network. They are ultimately responsible if there are glitches because the customer is going to come screaming to them, not Motorola (in most cases). Believe me, they take their time and do very extensive testing.
So ultimately, Motorola and Verizon are equally responsible for getting you the software update. I'd say...
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