BlackBerry Storm 9530
Storm vs iPhone
I just spent some time on the iPhone forum and it was good to hear their concerns or comments…very interesting. I’ve spent some time on the iPhone and it is really a nice phone w/ great web browsing, video and music playback. Web browsing I give the edge to the iPhone it’s a little more efficient. I like the screen better on the storm for video but the sound from the speakers’ sound better from the iPhone. The YouTube playback is slightly better than the Storm. Every once and a while it’s like the screen pixels explode on the Storm. Both don’t show up that great compared to a computer but the iPhone has the edge and for some reason the audio comes out sounding low from YouTube on the Storm, whereas the iP...
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RIM and Apple approached their phones coming from two opposite ends of the spectrum as companies and both with these phones have tried in their own ways to appeal to the masses.
At the heart of every Blackberry is a set of powerful business tools to get what the professional needs done...and now they have some cool multimedia abilities to play with after work!
At the heart of every Apple is lot of cool multimedia abilities and an easy to use fun phone (ipod,apps store, phone)
I love both products. If I had AT&T as a carrier I probably would have had an iphone for the last couple of years.
Good article
At the heart of every Blackberry is a set of powerful business tools to get what the professional needs done...and now they have some cool multimedia abilities to play with after work!
At the heart of every Apple is lot of cool multimedia abilities and an easy to use fun phone (ipod,apps store, phone)
I love both products. If I had AT&T as a carrier I probably would have had an iphone for the last couple of years.
Good article
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This guy owns an iphone too and it's obviously written from the BB lovers point-of-view but it tells some differences in the products:
http://crackberry.com/top-10-reasons-why-iphone-stil ... »
http://crackberry.com/top-10-reasons-why-iphone-stil ... »
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That is a great article for anyone who is looking to purchase an iPhone. Especially for a business oriented user. However, exactly as you said it definitely the iPhone is a great device but it is comparing apples to oranges.
On the flipside the Storm has been built to go after that iPhone market. The Storm can do everything the iPhone can do and more while the iPhone does some things better. Do you think BlackBerry w/ the Storm maight have a better platform? Does the Storm have better hardware than the iPhone? This is their first touch screen phone out of the box. It has it flaws it needs it updates but when they release their next device I wonder how both will stack up. Maybe BB is trying to do too much. Thoughts anyone?
On the flipside the Storm has been built to go after that iPhone market. The Storm can do everything the iPhone can do and more while the iPhone does some things better. Do you think BlackBerry w/ the Storm maight have a better platform? Does the Storm have better hardware than the iPhone? This is their first touch screen phone out of the box. It has it flaws it needs it updates but when they release their next device I wonder how both will stack up. Maybe BB is trying to do too much. Thoughts anyone?
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I like the iphones "clean sheet" OS approach. I wish the Storm had a brand new OS instead of an adaptation, but then previous Blackberry users would have probably hated that.
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If you need a phone for business the iPhone is not the phone you want...unless your business just requires you to be able to send and receive e-mail and browse the web. If it requires document editing and creation the iPhone is not even an option. It just does not fit the bill...period...no discussion needed.
However, if you do just have a business that requires e-mail and web access I actually prefer the iPhone because of it's superior html e-mail abilities and far superior web browsing.
However, if you do just have a business that requires e-mail and web access I actually prefer the iPhone because of it's superior html e-mail abilities and far superior web browsing.
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PlayboyPenguin said:
If you need a phone for business the iPhone is not the phone you want...unless your business just requires you to be able to send and receive e-mail and browse the web. If it requires document editing and creation the iPhone is not even an option. It just does not fit the bill...period...no discussion needed.
However, if you do just have a business that requires e-mail and web access I actually prefer the iPhone because of it's superior html e-mail abilities and far superior web browsing.
As crazy as it sounds the email looks much better to me on the iPhone than it does on the storm.. I currently own both (I know call me spoiled) and I'm trying to decide between the 2. I will say t...
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Yes...Blackberry does a few things much better than iPhone, and does some things iPhone does not do at all, but the iPhone is light years ahead of any Blackberry when it comes to HTML e-mail or web browsing.
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I agree that the browsing and HTML e-mail viewing are better w/ the iPhone. Light years are a huge stretch. The iPhone offers some nice very nice features but let’s not exaggerate their features. I have no problem bringing up the HTML viewing on the Storm. I just click Get Image and it’s done from menu bar...not a problem. BB doesn't automatically show the images to save space and for speed. Plus, most business users don't get a lot of HTML files. Their nice and all but they are not needed. They are good for Newsletters or if you want to open up other stuff that usually isn't business related. Web browsing is slightly more efficient…notice I said slightly. I see everything I want to see and it actually shows you more when you...
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Now who is exaggerating. The Storm is not the "best of both worlds" between anything. It is a good BB product and nothing more. It does not take the best of the iPhone. In fact it falls very short when compared to the "best" features of the iPhone.
As for HTML e-mail, you are exaggerating it's effectiveness. Any BB user recognizes the "cannot display image" message you often get from HTML e-mail.
As for HTML e-mail, you are exaggerating it's effectiveness. Any BB user recognizes the "cannot display image" message you often get from HTML e-mail.
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Not true I am able to get all my HTML newsletters, email signatures,
Once I click on Get Images it brings up abox letting me know downloading images expose my address and ask me if I want to continue. I click yes and in seconds I'm good. Some Newsletters it might say: If you are unable to see the message below click view. The nI get the entire page. However, I am fine 9 out of 10. I've sent emails w/ architectural renderings cut and pasted. B/c I'm on BES all my emails show up. I can go to the email I sent and I see the entire email w/ pic and my signature.
I say best of both worlds b/c you can do everything that the iPhone can do. iPhone might be slightly better in some features but by far not a big trade in from all the advantages t...
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Once I click on Get Images it brings up abox letting me know downloading images expose my address and ask me if I want to continue. I click yes and in seconds I'm good. Some Newsletters it might say: If you are unable to see the message below click view. The nI get the entire page. However, I am fine 9 out of 10. I've sent emails w/ architectural renderings cut and pasted. B/c I'm on BES all my emails show up. I can go to the email I sent and I see the entire email w/ pic and my signature.
I say best of both worlds b/c you can do everything that the iPhone can do. iPhone might be slightly better in some features but by far not a big trade in from all the advantages t...
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BB does not handle all HTML e-mail...period. I, and most BB users who use them for business, can attest to that.
The Storm is not the "best of both worlds" between a BB and an iPhone. It is a "compromise" between the two.
The Storm is not the "best of both worlds" between a BB and an iPhone. It is a "compromise" between the two.
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I don't have a problem w/ receiving HTML emails. When I had my 8830 I downloaded software called BBSmart and I could open HTML and pick up just about everything. The Storm handles it much better. I have no reason to be dishonest but it might be one pic w/ a little x on it once in a blue moon but that same thing happens on my email through Outlook. So, I have not been missing anything.
Also, on the messaging side I would have to give Storm the edge over the iPhone b/c we have to take into account pics text messaging which is something the iPhone can't do.
I don't believe in a corporate environment you need HTML e-mail or picture text but for the sake of our discussion I would say that it must be included when deciding which is a better...
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Also, on the messaging side I would have to give Storm the edge over the iPhone b/c we have to take into account pics text messaging which is something the iPhone can't do.
I don't believe in a corporate environment you need HTML e-mail or picture text but for the sake of our discussion I would say that it must be included when deciding which is a better...
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I do not consider MMS needed for business use. Why would you need it when you have e-mail that functions so flawlessly?
Plus, MMS is a dying technology as almost all phones are e-mail capable now. The market studies I have read show the technology lost profitability a couple years ago and will not be around too much longer. It will not be missed though since phones are evolving beyond the need for it.
Plus, MMS is a dying technology as almost all phones are e-mail capable now. The market studies I have read show the technology lost profitability a couple years ago and will not be around too much longer. It will not be missed though since phones are evolving beyond the need for it.
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Text messaging will always be around. it's quicker and some people don't have email on their phones so you would be excluding them from getting the message. Also, its very cumbersome trying to email someone text pic if they are on a different carrier. What if they are w/ T-Mobile, Sprint, AT&T, Alltel, etc. What do you type in? To confusing...they will probably include that soon.
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Where are you living that it matters what carrier someone is on to send an e-mail? That statement shows a complete lack of understanding.
Most phones are e-mail capable these days. if someone fails to set that up for themselves then they are choosing to be left out. Pic messaging is going away eventually. It is just not profitable for the carriers. Why would anyone want to pay extra for pic messages when e-mail will soon be free access on most carriers. In fact, I saw a report that says that all carriers will be offering free e-mail as soon as 2010 in some cases.
Most phones are e-mail capable these days. if someone fails to set that up for themselves then they are choosing to be left out. Pic messaging is going away eventually. It is just not profitable for the carriers. Why would anyone want to pay extra for pic messages when e-mail will soon be free access on most carriers. In fact, I saw a report that says that all carriers will be offering free e-mail as soon as 2010 in some cases.
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I was just telling someone this the other day and they couldn't even fatham mms going away. It's another way for carriers to get more revenue from users by saying "hey, if you want to send a picture message get a email compatible phone. I think att was smart not to have it on their network. It saves bandwidth and forces people to email-which is a faster way to send a picture message anyway.
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It does not matter what carrier you are sending an email to but it does matter if you are sending a text to someone through your email which you can do. I don't see the lack of understanding b/c I have done this several times w/ some of my friends who had phones w/out email capabilities. The way in which you enter the name you send to differs by carrier.
BTW, there are a lot of people missing out and that will continue for sometime. There are also many individuals who are not as economically sound as you are which is not too hard to understand. I know few friends that aren't in the same situation or have put other responsibilities over purchasing a computer so they don’t have email accounts set up. There are many families in this sit...
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BTW, there are a lot of people missing out and that will continue for sometime. There are also many individuals who are not as economically sound as you are which is not too hard to understand. I know few friends that aren't in the same situation or have put other responsibilities over purchasing a computer so they don’t have email accounts set up. There are many families in this sit...
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and anyone who doesnt like mms doesnt have it. now i have a bb so the email thing comes through fine, but on my dare? im not gonna wait 30 mins for the email, and then not be able to download the attachment.
granted, you can send a message from an email to, for example, 505-555-5555@czwpix.com (different for all carriers) and have the message come through as a mms message.
granted, you can send a message from an email to, for example, 505-555-5555@czwpix.com (different for all carriers) and have the message come through as a mms message.
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You guys are confusing MMS, SMS, and true e-mail capable phones. You need to do a little research and learn the difference. With true e-mail capable phones you do not wait 30 minutes for anything and the process is the same.
MMS as a whole IS going away. Not a single carrier has made a profit off of it for a few years now. All it is doing is eating up their bandwidth and costing them money. That is why they are moving to free e-mail service.
MMS as a whole IS going away. Not a single carrier has made a profit off of it for a few years now. All it is doing is eating up their bandwidth and costing them money. That is why they are moving to free e-mail service.
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Point is MMS or SMS is needed for direct instant messaging and also b/c there is a huge market segment that do not have email accounts or check them very seldom.
Also, we are talking about today. I would rather have the ability to text pics rather than not. Point blank. If you don't care about having the ability to text pics then that's your loss...I will take the benefit of that feature. To me that is one disadvantage of the phone and was a disadvantage to the 8830 I had before. Some of my friends could not email me the pics.
If someone emails you a pic you have to wait either until your phone retrieves its emails (for BB its every 20 unless you have a BES) or manually check the device yourself. There is a wait.
Also, we are talking about today. I would rather have the ability to text pics rather than not. Point blank. If you don't care about having the ability to text pics then that's your loss...I will take the benefit of that feature. To me that is one disadvantage of the phone and was a disadvantage to the 8830 I had before. Some of my friends could not email me the pics.
If someone emails you a pic you have to wait either until your phone retrieves its emails (for BB its every 20 unless you have a BES) or manually check the device yourself. There is a wait.
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i dont have bes, and my bb is instant, its push email, and its the fastest email out.
like playboy said, we are mixing up email/ non email phones. and im glad he pointed that out. untill everyone has email phones, mms is still great. and non email phones can still email pics, and email phones can still send pics to non email phones.
but mms still works better to me and many others.
if your bb takes 20 mins for an email update the phone/prl/software, it shouldnt take nearly that time
like playboy said, we are mixing up email/ non email phones. and im glad he pointed that out. untill everyone has email phones, mms is still great. and non email phones can still email pics, and email phones can still send pics to non email phones.
but mms still works better to me and many others.
if your bb takes 20 mins for an email update the phone/prl/software, it shouldnt take nearly that time
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I'm not sure about the Storm but when I had spoken to BB tech support they stated that the device only checks email every 20 minutes. There is no way of changing that schedule. This came as a result of me putting my two companies email addresses on device through GoDaddy. I'm not sure if you use the BB address if that's push to touch but it doesn't automatically pull emails instantly (retrieve them as soon as they are sent) unless you have an exchange server. I am not an IT guy but I know that's true from conversations I’ve had directly w/ BB tech.
SMS is just plain text
MMS is embedded picture text
I hear what PlayBoy is saying and have heard it before on the forum but I don't foresee them stopping this technology anytime soon....
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SMS is just plain text
MMS is embedded picture text
I hear what PlayBoy is saying and have heard it before on the forum but I don't foresee them stopping this technology anytime soon....
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put it this way, i signed up for talklock for the storm, put my email, and honestly, from the time i hit submit the email was on my phone in under 20 seconds, im being dead serious.
also, at a bb training, the rep told us that bb's change how they check, for example
by default, the bb checks every 15-20 mins
if you are holding a convo in emails, and u recieve an email from the same person within the 15 mins, it goes down to 7.5 mins.
if u recieve an email from the same person in the 7.5 mins, it goes down to 3.25 and so on.
maybe its the vzw network, idk, but my emails come through almost instant.
also, at a bb training, the rep told us that bb's change how they check, for example
by default, the bb checks every 15-20 mins
if you are holding a convo in emails, and u recieve an email from the same person within the 15 mins, it goes down to 7.5 mins.
if u recieve an email from the same person in the 7.5 mins, it goes down to 3.25 and so on.
maybe its the vzw network, idk, but my emails come through almost instant.
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