Apple iPhone

People that are bashing the Iphone ,are just HATERS.They're just mad that the phone is a multi-year exclusivity with AT&T and they won't be able to buy one themselves for whatever reasons.
I bet you those people are with Verizon and Sprint with those damn cdma phones that are so crippled: BT,ugly UI,mp3 ringtones,unable to use their phones overseas,BREW,unable to buy any unlocked phones,stuck w/ what the carrier offers them,no SIM cards to switch between phones without the carrier knowing, etc...
Can't wait to stop by at my local VZ wireless and Circuit City stores to show off my new "baby".
Take that!

LoL, amazing. Run sheep run.

Id love to see you iPhone at my store, I will then as you how your COVERAGE is and then you will run away with your tail between your legs.

Face it, GSM may be the global standard, but is slowly GOING AWAY. Japan is already testing with CDMA to replace, YES REPLACE, their aging GSM networks.

Anyway, good luck with your new phone, I will donate an extra $300 to apple's profits buy buying an ipod with video, but if you like your phone isnt that all that matters?

I will sleep the same wether apple makes a few more million, will you knowing that you paid straight to profits?

iMWi said:
LoL, amazing. Run sheep run.

Id love to see you iPhone at my store, I will then as you how your COVERAGE is and then you will run away with your tail between your legs.

Face it, GSM may be the global standard, but is slowly GOING AWAY. Japan is already testing with CDMA to replace, YES REPLACE, their aging GSM networks.

Yeah.... that is why CDMA needs twice to three times as many towers to get similar coverage.

no, you have that back-wards. GSM needs more sites to carry traffic.

Broken

Be careful when you say silly things here..

GSM has an effective range of just a few miles.. It requires many times the towers to work especially in rural areas.

CDMA phones can reach out 15 miles when they have to to make calls to the less towers that are needed to work.

Look ,the deal is such that GSM is not as good as CDMA and never will be but it's close and with the awesome phones on Cingular, I who love VZW would consider switching to get an awesome phone like Iphone or the Curve which I am testing right now.

🙂

It is also triangulation of towers. Ever noticed how CDMA towers have three triangular antennaes, where GSM circle the whole tower? At least in my area there is about 4 GSM towers. We also have Sprint, Verizon, and a local crap Inland Cellular. There are many, many more CDMA towers at least three fold and I still have less drop calls on my GSM service. That is what I am basiong my OPINION on not what some theoretical limit is. Do a tower search on 83501 in ID and you will see what I mean. I am sorry my OPINION still does not match the CDMA God's.

You could put a shotgun to my head and I still wouldn't buy the iPhone regardless of what service I could have it for. Oh and yeah using your phone overseas is cool but i'm happier being able to use it in America.

HAHA, my thoughts exactly.

not true. i work for at&t and i can afford one, but why would i buy a device that can't do what my 8525 can do? everyone isn't a hater, some of us realize it is an outdated toy for children. i need a real pda, not a toy playing pda.

I agree totally.
It will be the teenie-boppers or the WANNABE hipsters who will be buying this phone.

Those people consist of anyone who was picked on or otherwise ignored in High School. All they want to do is prove they have turned into a 'someone' and they are no longer 'THAT' person.

Sad, but apple has hit a JACKPOT with these people.

I was kinda one of them, but I have 'ACTUALLY' grown and can see what is before me now, so I will not be purchasing one of these units ANY time.

hey screw you buddy, i was picked on in high school and there's no way i would buy an Iphone lolol 🤣

I'm not entirely happy with my vx6700 but it gets the job done. I would give my left ball if the pn820 and that samsung dual flip phone had a love child......hmmmm dual flip smart phone with a qwerty keyboard..... 🤤

The point of the matter is different and conveniance...people pay a lot of money for outdated technology all the time. Every time you pay 3000 for a laptop its obsolite when you buy it. There will always be something better out in a few months...my question is why not this phone? I realize it doesnt have all the features and its not all its cracked up to be, but the fact of the matter is its a pretty cool phone. The HSPDA doesn't matter because its got Wifi so who cares, plus you dont have to pay the unlimited data pack. No one has this touch screen interface and everyone by now is comfortable with itunes and has a million on their comp. So why not try it out. It looks fun and 90% of what we sell is based on the looks especially in to...
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they don't insure high end phones for att. they do for sprint, verizon, and alltel. get the facts straight. plus there will be a data plan required to purchase the phone. to me the features wouldn't make me happy, i like have wcdma. along with the faster data speeds, which is more widespread than wifi, you also carry voice calls over the 3g network. study a little bit next time. :-)

asurion doesnt insure the high end devices for at&t because at&t is the actual insurance company and asurion is the provider (basically just a call center for insurance claims). verizon, sprint and alltel are not the insurance companies leaving asurion to make the judgement calls on what to insure and what not to insure.

Um..What?

You have to have the data package to buy the phone, but you could turn arround the next day and take it off. and 3G dosent make any difference in the voice network, it is only faster data speeds.

And I am sorta upset about that, I dropped my 8525 and broke the lcd, yeah I was clumsy. I'm semi upset that cingy didn't even want to repair it, thankfully I found a 3rd party repair center for 128bucks who will do it. ATT
told me to call HTC. OK, I goofed. I still love my 8525 and will replace it if need be. I don't begruge those who want an iphone, nor those who prefer cdma.

I also think that it could be the local saleperson who might have given me the wrong info. In anycase beats what they would charge.

correction: AT&T and T-Mobile know that you're switching in between phones when you switch your sim. The phone's IMEI (or serial number) is trasmitted to the carrier and put on a list under your account, so they know how many IMEI's you've had, and they can tell what phone it is, and if you stole it or not.
Just FYI.

But if you bought them legally, do they care? Assume you're not taking services you're not paying for?

Heck some of the full service stores even help you set up your unlocked phones.

*Shrug*

I could care less if VZW or anyone else gives a free any job 😉 so people dont leave, I am sure they will.

My concern is that this is just another way for a greedy companies to make a ton more money because idiots will buy it.

If you market dog crap right, people WILL buy it. Amazingly enough.

People that are bashing the Iphone ,are just HATERS.They're just mad that the phone is a multi-year exclusivity with AT&T and they won't be able to buy one themselves for whatever reasons.
I bet you those people are with Verizon and Sprint with those damn cdma phones that are so crippled: BT,ugly UI,mp3 ringtones,unable to use their phones overseas,BREW,unable to buy any unlocked phones,stuck w/ what the carrier offers them,no SIM cards to switch between phones without the carrier knowing, etc...
Can't wait to stop by at my local VZ wireless and Circuit City stores to show off my new "baby".
Take that!

LoL, amazing. Run sheep run.

Id love to see you iPhone at my store, I will then as you how your COVERAGE is and then you will run away with your tail between your legs.

Face it, GSM may be the global standard, but is slowly GOING AWAY. Japan is already testing with CDMA to replace, YES REPLACE, their aging GSM networks.

Anyway, good luck with your new phone, I will donate an extra $300 to apple's profits buy buying an ipod with video, but if you like your phone isnt that all that matters?

I will sleep the same wether apple makes a few more million, will you knowing that you paid straight to profits?

iMWi said:

Face it, GSM may be the global standard, but is slowly GOING AWAY. Japan is already testing with CDMA to replace, YES REPLACE, their aging GSM networks.

You don't travel much do you? Japan is hardly world domination.

And AFIK, only KDDI is using CDMA in Japan. The others are using WCDMA, including NTT DoCoMo, who developed WCDMA.

Your funny. The coverage is about the same for Verizon and AT&T as they are the #1 and #2 carriers. On the other hand Verizons phones are locked down to where you cant do anything with the POS phones they have. Where the rest of the world and here in the states people who enjoy the GSM world have the option of having a phone the carrier doesn't carry. And to me its none of their business.

The craptastic software the carriers put on the phones they carry locks down the phone so they can nickel and dime you for everything. So enjoy Verizon and all the wonderfull phones they have wile the rest who know and those who are finding out everyday enjoy the freedom of gsm.


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iMWi said:

Anyway, good luck with your new phone, I will donate an extra $300 to apple's profits by buying an ipod with video

I will sleep the same whether apple makes a few more million, will you knowing that you paid straight to profits?

what are you talking about? Straight to profits? Obviously a company is trying to profit otherwise they wouldn't make a product but when someone buys an iphone for $600 it isn't going to be profit, especially at first. It takes a ton of money and a ton of balls to produce 3 million of these things, it's going to be revolutionary.

iMWi hasn't written one thing on these posts that didn't reek of jealousy & envy. He's probably a sales rep for VZW that is thinking his next couple of paychecks are going to be so great!

Sure, the iPhone has a few faults, but so does everyother phone on the market. I am sure they are already working on a generation 2 iPhone that is 3G.

Nothing wrong with vzw. I get coverage everywhere and their selection of phones are alot better. I've had sprint and cingular and my personal preference is vzw. Depends on your area and taste of phones really...

wow! You mean its going to be just like every other phone on phone scoop? no way! You must be joking!.....get a brain before you open your mouth....and Im sure everyone in the world agrees with you about CDMA...thats why they use it...and oh if you wana talk about Japan testing it...good luck getting approval from the FCC for a 2500 network because thats what theyre testing! Read up buddy! And youre wrong about GSM needing more towers...thats WHY everyone uses GSM! You dont have to build as many sites! It runs at a lower bandwidth so it goes farther....I suggest reading up on stuff instead of sounding ignorat...dont waste your time....

DAKING0225 said:
wow! You mean its going to be just like every other phone on phone scoop? no way! You must be joking!.....get a brain before you open your mouth....and Im sure everyone in the world agrees with you about CDMA...thats why they use it...and oh if you wana talk about Japan testing it...good luck getting approval from the FCC for a 2500 network because thats what theyre testing! Read up buddy! And youre wrong about GSM needing more towers...thats WHY everyone uses GSM! You dont have to build as many sites! It runs at a lower bandwidth so it goes farther....I suggest reading up on stuff instead of sounding ignorat...dont waste your time....

Who are you to tell people to read up.???
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Well, sorta. Except Sprint and Verizon use the PCS band (from 1850 to 1990 MHz), which if I'm correct isn't between 824-894MHz. Verizon used to use those, but Sprint never did.

Wow, then I guess someone needs to tell Cingular that their GSM 850 isn't used in America. Dumb ass.

Cingular 850/1900
Unicel 850/1900

Want me to keep adding the other GSM 850 operators?

Broken said:
Wow, then I guess someone needs to tell Cingular that their GSM 850 isn't used in America. Dumb ass.

Cingular 850/1900
Unicel 850/1900

Want me to keep adding the other GSM 850 operators?

If I were you I would look at where AT&Tingular use that 850 band which is in CANADA MOSTLY. The few parts of the states that they use the 850 band are rural areas where their 1900 band is crappy.

and if you didn't like my last source here it is right from AT&T
http://www.wireless.att.com/download/GPRS_coverage_l ... »

Save the name calling for your mom chief.

But you said GSM in America only uses 900-1800, and now you are saying 1900 is mostly used and that 850 is used in some rural areas.

I love it when people contradict themselves and then try to make you look like the person that doesn't know what they are talking about.


Get your facts straight.

Because wikipedia is always right!!! wikipedia.com is written by whoever wants to write an article, not professionals or experts. Keep getting your information from there and you will keep sounding uninformed.

How's this for a source.

http://www.wireless.att.com/download/GPRS_coverage_l ... »

The little 850 band that they do have is where nobody lives WHOP-DE-DO.

Thanks for that chart. I was looking for that even though there is some inconsistancy. Where I live we have 850 towers in town and the map does not show that.

iMWi at it again...... still worried you are going to have a smaller paycheck from your VZW sales job next month? Keep telling yourself that your company is the best. I respect pride in your product, but quit bashing the others, when all you do is sound uninformed and jealous.