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Alltel Phones?
Any real differance between the Curve and Pearls?
I know it could be argued about the forum but nobody really goes to the alltel one to often anymore and i tried the curve, but no response.
I know it could be argued about the forum but nobody really goes to the alltel one to often anymore and i tried the curve, but no response.
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Pearl is smaller, with the screen seeming a lot smaller. Also the curve has the full keyboard and the pearl has the 2 letter per button suretype keyboard. Otherwise they are pretty equivalent.
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I heard 4.5 os for curve gives it flash enabled websites, is that correct?
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It allows you too view streaming video, ie mobile youtube, and is carrier dependent too, but flash is not enabled with it, no.
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Pearl is going to be about the same size as a regular phone, yet offer all of the same features of a full size BB, minus the full keyboard. Instead, the pearl has a 20 key suretype board and software. I like mine, a lot, and the suretype works well for the most part. I spell all of my words, though, and know of other people that hate it because they do the random string of letters that is supposed to mean something, and sure type doesn't like that.
The curve is going to have a bigger screen, full keyboard, longer battery life, but otherwise is the same. If you can afford it, and don't mind the size, the curve is the better of the 2, but the pearl is a great phone with all the BB solutions.
The curve is going to have a bigger screen, full keyboard, longer battery life, but otherwise is the same. If you can afford it, and don't mind the size, the curve is the better of the 2, but the pearl is a great phone with all the BB solutions.
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maybe i had a lemon but mines a dud, i hate my pearl. i heard that the curve had flash though with the 4.5 os update?
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Does not support flash. Just has coding to allow streaming video from certain sites, carrier dependent as well, like mobile youtube, which does not use flash.
I get flash error codes all the time that I don't have flash, and I am running 4.5 on my Pearl. As well, my manager has the Curve 8310, and same thing, with 4.5. Also, some of the data specialists in my company have the 8900(we are getting it soon), and it doesn't support flash either with 4.6 on it. Heck, WinMo phones barely support flash, and flash is native to Windows.
And what do you hate about your Pearl? If the screen is too small, or you don't like the suretype because you use abreviations, that is fine. If you don't like the menus and OS, then you won't like a Curve...
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I get flash error codes all the time that I don't have flash, and I am running 4.5 on my Pearl. As well, my manager has the Curve 8310, and same thing, with 4.5. Also, some of the data specialists in my company have the 8900(we are getting it soon), and it doesn't support flash either with 4.6 on it. Heck, WinMo phones barely support flash, and flash is native to Windows.
And what do you hate about your Pearl? If the screen is too small, or you don't like the suretype because you use abreviations, that is fine. If you don't like the menus and OS, then you won't like a Curve...
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What i dont like is the fact that it seems to be made like crap. Such as the battery got to hot and melted the gaskets out from under my screen. The paint scratches off so easy. The trackball gets dirty faster than a pig in its pen. Or maybe like i said I just recieved a lemon?
And as far as all that goes, if i download say skyfire as recommended yesterday which isnt capable with the pearl but heard it is with curve, would i be able to get to flash sites?
And as far as all that goes, if i download say skyfire as recommended yesterday which isnt capable with the pearl but heard it is with curve, would i be able to get to flash sites?
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Skyfire doesn't work with any BB phones. I am going to say this again, there is no difference between the Pearl and the Curve except for size and keyboard. Skyfire only works with WinMo and Symbian S60 right now.
It sounds like you got a lemon in terms of the battery and what not. Although, were you using the BB charger or a different one? You have to use a BB charger, because the battery and the circuitry is designed for a certain voltage and amperage, and many chargers go over that causing "hot charges".
It sounds like you got a lemon in terms of the battery and what not. Although, were you using the BB charger or a different one? You have to use a BB charger, because the battery and the circuitry is designed for a certain voltage and amperage, and many chargers go over that causing "hot charges".
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So im not fond of the touchscreens but im told the HTC Touch is decent, and has a downloadable keyboard that makes it easy to text (cant afford the pro or diamond yet) would that be a better choice than the blackberrys?
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Depends... The Touch is a great phone, but horribly slow at times, and it doesn't have the juice to really do the full experience, IMO.
I would save for the Diamond or Pro, both are far better devices. I personally have a Pearl and the Touch Pro. I like the Touch Pro more than the Pearl, or any BB for that matter, because I can do more customization, and the screen is to die for! I am not a big fan of WinMo in many ways, and have a cooked HTC ROM on my Touch Pro that speeds it up big time, otherwise I probably wouldn't be able to live with it. If you decide to get a WinMo device, you will have to go to xda-developers.com and get yourself a cooked ROM.
With BB, they are out of the box spectacular, and I prefer selling them to custom...
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I would save for the Diamond or Pro, both are far better devices. I personally have a Pearl and the Touch Pro. I like the Touch Pro more than the Pearl, or any BB for that matter, because I can do more customization, and the screen is to die for! I am not a big fan of WinMo in many ways, and have a cooked HTC ROM on my Touch Pro that speeds it up big time, otherwise I probably wouldn't be able to live with it. If you decide to get a WinMo device, you will have to go to xda-developers.com and get yourself a cooked ROM.
With BB, they are out of the box spectacular, and I prefer selling them to custom...
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i heard from our blackberry rep that they don't plan on adding flash support to any blackberry including the storm or bold due to security issues or something.
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My understanding is that flash is a massive program, and that is the reason why. No security issues at all, since the data would still be triple encrypted. It is just flash is a huge program, requires lots of processing power and RAM, and thus isn't a very good mobile application.
Even WinMo phones have a hard time running FlashLite, which is a stripped down version of Flash. This is why the only real support you see for flash on mobile devices is with 3rd party browsers that have a proxy server run the flash processing, then only sends an image to the phone. Thus, the phone doesn't process the flash itself, the server does, so it gets around the fact that the phones don't have what it takes to get the job done.
I know Skyfire(supp...
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Even WinMo phones have a hard time running FlashLite, which is a stripped down version of Flash. This is why the only real support you see for flash on mobile devices is with 3rd party browsers that have a proxy server run the flash processing, then only sends an image to the phone. Thus, the phone doesn't process the flash itself, the server does, so it gets around the fact that the phones don't have what it takes to get the job done.
I know Skyfire(supp...
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The full keyboard devices are in general, a bit more data-centric in their overall design and function.
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Keith-IA said:
The full keyboard devices are in general, a bit more data-centric in their overall design and function.
HAHA WHAT?! 'datacentric'? What exactly does 'data-centric' mean? Haha what a load of bs why did you even comment. The poster should have specified which model number of the curve and the pearl he is comparing, if it is the pearl 2 and the curve 8330 the one and only difference is the keyboard. Literally, there is absolutely no other difference but form factor.
HAHA "data centric" I should start using that one on custies. "Yeah this pda is reall kewl it's DATA CENTRIC" hahahaha HAHAHAHAHA
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ikon said:
if it is the pearl 2 and the curve 8330 the one and only difference is the keyboard. Literally, there is absolutely no other difference but form factor.
..And the internal memory. Curve comes with almost 40 more MB than the Pearl, but i'm sure you knew that.
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wizardofCroz said:
..And the internal memory. Curve comes with almost 40 more MB than the Pearl, but i'm sure you knew that.
I didn't but it's irrelevant since they all come with free memory cards. Depending on the carrier it's anywhere from 256mb to 2 gigs.
I won't specify who I sell but I can assure it trumps your petty 40mb onboard memory.
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Ok Kiddo get away from Mommy and Daddy's Computer and go back to playing with your leggos and let the adults have a conversation ok?
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ikon said:
I didn't but it's irrelevant since they all come with free memory cards. Depending on the carrier it's anywhere from 256mb to 2 gigs.
I won't specify who I sell but I can assure it trumps your petty 40mb onboard memory.
Actually, depending on the carrier and the market, they don't ALL come with "free memory cards".
But I'm sure that's irrelevant too...
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Are you actually employed? by ANYONE? Because I KNOW it's not by a company that sells phones...Do your homework, son.
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gadawg119 said:
Are you actually employed? by ANYONE? Because I KNOW it's not by a company that sells phones...Do your homework, son.
Present your source for evidence. Let's hear it.
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ikon said:
Present your source for evidence. Let's hear it.
2 1/2 years of sales experience. Well over 300 Blackberry devices sold, not a SINGLE memory card in ANY of them. Present yours.
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Actually they dont. I work for att and never have sold a new phone (blackberry) with a memory card, have alltel service and never recieved a memory card. a buddy has verizon never got one with his pearl.
hmmmmm see a trend?
hmmmmm see a trend?
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As a VZW person, the only Blackberry we sell with a memory card included is the Storm...
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the 40 more Mb onboard storage is very critical to the processes of the phone. a memory card will not let you install more applications or hold more messages or a longer call log. the extra available memory in the curve makes a substantial difference in the ability of the phone to process and store information. sorry ikon wizard was right..
"but im sure thats irrelevant too..."
"but im sure thats irrelevant too..."
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Where are you getting this info about the curve having 40 more mb of internal memory than the pearl? And are we talking about ROM or RAM?
I ask, since every site I have ever found quote them having the same memory, and the information I have from blackberry themselves says that they have the same. That info I have is the official blackberry tech sheets that I am required to have in my blackberry binder, another requirement of blackberry on their corporate dealers.
So, if you have other information showing that blackberry is wrong in what the specs of their own device is, please show us this information. If not, please stop spreading rumor and hearsay.
I ask, since every site I have ever found quote them having the same memory, and the information I have from blackberry themselves says that they have the same. That info I have is the official blackberry tech sheets that I am required to have in my blackberry binder, another requirement of blackberry on their corporate dealers.
So, if you have other information showing that blackberry is wrong in what the specs of their own device is, please show us this information. If not, please stop spreading rumor and hearsay.
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According to Phonescoop, the available memory for storage for the CDMA Pearl and Curve used with ALLTEL:
Research In Motion BlackBerry Pearl 8130
64 MB (internal memory available to user for storage)
Research In Motion BlackBerry Curve 8330
96 MB (internal memory available to user for storage)
And just for curiosity the Sprint 3350i shows 128 MB (internal memory available to user for storage) and the AT&T 8310 shows 64 MB (internal memory available to user for storage).
Between the Alltel Curve and Pearl, there is 32MB more of free storage for applications on the Curve.
That is assuming the information posted on this site is accurate.
Research In Motion BlackBerry Pearl 8130
64 MB (internal memory available to user for storage)
Research In Motion BlackBerry Curve 8330
96 MB (internal memory available to user for storage)
And just for curiosity the Sprint 3350i shows 128 MB (internal memory available to user for storage) and the AT&T 8310 shows 64 MB (internal memory available to user for storage).
Between the Alltel Curve and Pearl, there is 32MB more of free storage for applications on the Curve.
That is assuming the information posted on this site is accurate.
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Hmmm... I have the GSM models only in my binder because I work for a GSM carrier. Those state 64mb for flash RAM and 128mb for ROM.
As for CDMA, I have only seen the same specs for both of them. I usually don't look on phonescoop for memory and processor specs because it doesn't have them most of the time. The sources I have found that address both ROM and RAM specs for the 8X30 models have been that they are the same. It is true that out of the box the CDMA models have more memory available than the GSM, and if I recall correctly they have slightly more RAM out of the box to be specific.
I have seen the flash RAM and ROM get mixed up, and what not, too.
Ultimately, the point I was making was that according to blackberry there i...
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As for CDMA, I have only seen the same specs for both of them. I usually don't look on phonescoop for memory and processor specs because it doesn't have them most of the time. The sources I have found that address both ROM and RAM specs for the 8X30 models have been that they are the same. It is true that out of the box the CDMA models have more memory available than the GSM, and if I recall correctly they have slightly more RAM out of the box to be specific.
I have seen the flash RAM and ROM get mixed up, and what not, too.
Ultimately, the point I was making was that according to blackberry there i...
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Also consider that although RIM may give all versions the same memory, the amount of available memory for storage may vary due to the varying amount of apps that are preloaded by the service providers.
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That is pretty much what he said. He also noted it was right on the blackberry website...
http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/blackberrycurve ... »
http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/blackberrypearl ... »
...As we see there, there is no difference at all between the GSM Pearl and Curve. The CDMA Curve has 96mb versus 64mb, and the iDEN Curve has 128mb.
He noted that they train us that there is no difference between the GSM and CDMA version of the phones because there really isn't, beyond network differences. He said that the memory difference has no effect on operating speed of the phone because it is partitioned, not open, memory. He noted the only advantage the added memory b...
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http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/blackberrycurve ... »
http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/blackberrypearl ... »
...As we see there, there is no difference at all between the GSM Pearl and Curve. The CDMA Curve has 96mb versus 64mb, and the iDEN Curve has 128mb.
He noted that they train us that there is no difference between the GSM and CDMA version of the phones because there really isn't, beyond network differences. He said that the memory difference has no effect on operating speed of the phone because it is partitioned, not open, memory. He noted the only advantage the added memory b...
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well why dont you do us both a favor and go into your vast inventory and check the available memory for both phones for your self and get back to us. its really not that difficult to find out this information. quit being so ignorant
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hmm, no one was talking about GSM phones...
"As for CDMA, I have only seen the same specs for both of them"
where?
"Ultimately, the point I was making was that according to blackberry there is no difference beyond form factor between the 2 devices with comparable features."
According to the phone, IF you were talking about GSM blackberries, the Curve 8310, does not have a video recorder. The Pearl 8110, has a video recorder, however it requires at least a 2GB card.
"As for CDMA, I have only seen the same specs for both of them"
where?
"Ultimately, the point I was making was that according to blackberry there is no difference beyond form factor between the 2 devices with comparable features."
According to the phone, IF you were talking about GSM blackberries, the Curve 8310, does not have a video recorder. The Pearl 8110, has a video recorder, however it requires at least a 2GB card.
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The Curve 8310 DOES record videos, as of handset OS4.5 which has been shipping with new Curves. Older 8310's will record video but you have to download and install the free update.
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No it doesn't! They have the exact same internals! Same processor, and internal memory.
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IrishCarBomb said:
No it doesn't! They have the exact same internals! Same processor, and internal memory.
YES IT DOES! NO THEY DON'T! NO, and NO!
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https://www.phonescoop.com/phones/compare.php?id%5B% ... »
Check the topic of this discussion before you start rambling. This discussion was for Alltel CDMA Blackberries. Maybe your Blackberry Rep can explain that different carriers make different blackberries.
Check the topic of this discussion before you start rambling. This discussion was for Alltel CDMA Blackberries. Maybe your Blackberry Rep can explain that different carriers make different blackberries.
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Is it very difficult to text on this phone? I was just offered this phone for 100.00 after rebates and im thinking of taking this if its not that bad of a phone, its all touch screen and im not sure i'd like that so much as i have big hands.
irish, what ya think? you seem to know the most.
irish, what ya think? you seem to know the most.
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Hey! Genious! I have an idea! Why don't you go to the store and try to type on one since different people have different needs and different people have different likes and dislikes and what irishcarbomb likes may not be what you like! I know! Logic! Crazy!
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haha. nicely put maybe i want some consumer feed back on the device (checked out the forums and wasnt answering what i had to ask) and different opinions. when it comes to phones obviously im going to have it for awhile so i would like to get all the info i can first. therefore....
i bought the phone, still getting used to it obviously. not to sure about the touch screen but i use the stylus and it's okay. the browser is much better than blackberrys, overall im happy but still learning.
i bought the phone, still getting used to it obviously. not to sure about the touch screen but i use the stylus and it's okay. the browser is much better than blackberrys, overall im happy but still learning.
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I am personally thinking about getting a Diamond because the screen is gorgeous on it!
Texting on an HTC touchscreen isn't horrible, but it isn't great either. If you need to type much, go with a physical keyboard. If you only type a little bit, don't mind it not being the fastest input in the world, and want the pluses of a VGA screen, full desktop quality browsers available, and fuller personalization potential, go for it.
I would recommend the Touch Pro hands down over the Diamond, I actually have a Pro, and my only thought on getting a Diamond as well is that I already have to carry a blackberry on me at all times, so I don't really need 2 hardware keyboard phones on me at the same time.
Texting on an HTC touchscreen isn't horrible, but it isn't great either. If you need to type much, go with a physical keyboard. If you only type a little bit, don't mind it not being the fastest input in the world, and want the pluses of a VGA screen, full desktop quality browsers available, and fuller personalization potential, go for it.
I would recommend the Touch Pro hands down over the Diamond, I actually have a Pro, and my only thought on getting a Diamond as well is that I already have to carry a blackberry on me at all times, so I don't really need 2 hardware keyboard phones on me at the same time.
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difference is that the curve is just a little bit wider and curved and the pearl is smaller
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