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Anything I can do?
I have a dilemma that maybe you can help me with.
I've had Verizon cell phone service for longer than I can remember, and LOVE the service, by the way.
I had a family plan (not that it matters) that allowed 1000 minutes of shared service. No problem for years.
In December, due to family illnesses, I went over my minutes to the tune of about $300. No problem - my fault - I paid it. I thought it wouldn't happen again, but it did, and will continue going forward.
In January, I was once again over my minutes to the tune of about $300. I know this, because one of the phones stopped working and when I called for service (the phone was "rebooted"), the rep informed me. This was not the r...
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I might have had more luck going to an agent store? Wow! I would not have expected that. I went out of my way to go to a corporate store! Guess it's too late now?
I'm in NJ. Guess I'm out of luck, huh?
In the area that I'm in, Verizon offers the best coverage, so I'm a little hesitant about switching providers.
I really appreciate your response!
plus, with rollover, you can bank alot of minutes, and save an average of 30 percent over other carriers (who let you drop your minutes every month)
cingy loses over 1 BILLION dollars per year to present this feature, take advantage of it!
high pressure is if i twist her arm to get the sale, and won't let her leave without my product.
'cause knowledge is half the battle! yo Joe!
No?
Well alright, then. There's no benefit to the customer switching to another service, it will not help at all. You're currently trying to tout rollover minutes, but it won't make any difference at all because the customer was using all of those minutes and then some to begin with.
Thirdly, Cingular does NOT lose $1 billion a year, that's an exaggerated figure using the assumption that folks would always go over the minutes if they knew they had carryover.
Fourthly, I'm reporting your posts as spam. Figured you deserve a fair warning. Don't -- do NOT -- try to crap out what someone else is locked into a contract for and try to sell them s...
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Phydeaux said:
You're currently trying to tout rollover minutes, but it won't make any difference at all because the customer was using all of those minutes and then some to begin with.
excuse me? but on an open public forum, I am allowed to post what i want, freely.
now, aws far as the quoted statement...
of course she is going over her minutes... the solution to that? GET A HIGHER PLAN. for acting as such a super genious of the wireless forum, you sure do miss the simple points.
lastly, my "sales pitch" is not even close to being that, there was no 5 steps, there was no close, there were no probing questions, there was nothing resembling your so-called "sales pitch"
oh, and report my posts ...
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I would mention the in-store rep directing you to customer service and you renewed and blah, blah, blah.
Hope you get it resolved!
Is there anybody I can send an e-mail to? Like a corporate office or something?
And yes, I LOVE my Verizon service! 😁
Gotta tell ya... I'm reading the posts here and LMAO!
I hope you guys get paid the big bucks! You DESERVE it.
I know with Nextel or Sprint that if I have a problem for a customer I can email this escalated help dept and they always help me resolve issues. Just a few days ago, I helped a customer get a $50.00 credit.
In Upstate Newyork, anyone (corporate or Agent) is able to back date a change to the beginning of the billing cycle. This only pertinas to the current billing cycle.
As far as "rollover" minutes...the flaw that I see is this: MaryM has been going over her minutes. There would have been nothing to rollover. Also, if someone is on the correct calling plan to suite their usage, they shouldn't have much to rollover. If you sold them more than they need, they'll have plenty to rollover, which they'll really never use. If you sold them a plan with too few minutes...there's nothing to rollover. I would suggest that a salesperson should do their job and help the customer find the correct plan that isn'...
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I had a woman use over 2000 rollover minutes in a month, on a 900 minute plan. without this, she would have added 800+ dollars to her bill.
rollover is right for some, but not for all.
uniform usage customers will never need rollover on the right plan. I had 600 minutes, and i never went above 400 on a 1 year contract.
Okay, go light this month so you can talk you a$$ off next month!
"I had a family plan (not that it matters) that allowed 1000 minutes of shared service. No problem for years."
Check out the last four words. Now think about it this way. Say for a year she only used 800 minutes a month, and banked 200 minutes each month. Quick math...2400 rollover minutes. December comes, unexpected family illnes. She currently sits at 3400 minutes (2400 RO + Billed). Goes over say, 1000 minutes. So she used 2000 minutes this month.
Minutes now sit at:
Billed = 0
RO = 1400
January comes. Now she has 2400 minute...
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She's a relatively new contract. There wouldn't have been enough time to build up that much "unused" for "rollover".
MaryM said:
I've had Verizon cell phone service for longer than I can remember, and LOVE the service, by the way.
I had a family plan (not that it matters) that allowed 1000 minutes of shared service. No problem for years.
Relatively new? Man, re-read this. Service for longer than she remembers. If she can't remember longer than a year...I don't know. The point is, Rollover is useful, and it could have potentially helped in this situation. I don't see how you can say she's "relatively new."
Give respect where it's due.
I respect Verizon for V-Cast, I respect T-mobile for it's plans, and i respect sprint for it's iDEN phones.
other than that i will never slam a provider unless it is in my area, and i KNOW their coverage, and even then it's not a slam, just an explanation of how our coverage differs from theirs.
http://www2.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=1196 »
Actually, it's more along the lines of slamming Cingular reps who have been programmed to say that Rollover minutes can do anything along the lines of solve world hunger and cure cancer.
if you stumbled upon one of my posts and didn't like it... fine, but from that point you should realize you don't like what i have to say and just stop reading my posts. Following me on the interweb, and griping about how you don't like me qualifies as such.
Wow.
Dude, you made the comment, and I answered to it. If you think you're /entitled/ to The Last Word you've got another thing coming.
I will be reporting your qualms of harassment as harassment.
Then I'll probably be sacked.
Then rehired.
And then sacked. :p
All of this reporting bullsh1t is gettig ridiculous. We are all entitled to our own opinions. Hello free world. Like Ramone said, if you know you don't like his posts, skip them. Just stop this crap.
And, inflated prices on marginal service? While Cingular is widely regarded as behind Verizon in network quality, they are equal-to or better than Verizon in some major markets, like NYC, Cali, and closing the gap in most others.
But if MaryM is happy with Verizon, and she certainly seems to be, I say keep them.
Basically, get real familiar with dialing #646 SEND to check your minutes, and call *611 SEND if you're over the plan.
The old plan probably didn't have as good of Mobile to Mobile minutes, either, so you are probably done with changing plans, to be honest!
Thanks for being so nice about it all, sorry it happened.
Guess an expensive lesson learned.
My new plan should be good for me going forward.
If I was an evil super-billionaire that only wanted more money, I would have invented rollover. Here is the definition of rollover.
Rollover (row-low-ver) noun: A scam intended to make people believe they are getting a better deal for something they can never use. See also: ripoff, trick, deceive, bamboosel
Here is the way rollover works...
If you don't use all your minutes in one month, any minutes you have left carry over to your next bill cycle. They "roll over" so you can use them if you go over on your minutes the next month. So, in essence, you get rollover if you don't use all your minutes. The only way to use your rollover is to go over...
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we are supposed to "do our jobs" but the consumer has the ultimate power, and we are at their mercy.
this gentlemen, after going over the plans for an hour and a half chooses 400 any time minutes (with free nights and weekends). I ask him if he would like to add unlimited text messaging for 9.99 a month to the phones, his sons say yes, he says no. I get the phones activated and before they even leave the store one of the sons is texting and the ...
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The other replies here all make good points, though. Furthermore, not everyone uses minutes 450 or 900 minutes (or whatever), no matter how good the rep does their job. Some people vary wildly, some are steady, steady, steady from month-to-month. Both of those types of customers can use rollover. The former can use the rollover during the "fat" months, and sock them away when they don't feel like talking. The latter example, might sock 50, 100, 200 minutes every month, but when they have to use the hell out of their phone because a family member ...
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I have more rollover minutes than I will ever use. We have had a couple of months here & there when things transpired that caused us to dip into out rollover - nowhere using them up but it sure beats the sheeyot out of paying overages. I have never counseled a customer to micro-manage their plans to be "to the minute," because this causes heartache when overages pile up. If a customer feels comfortable having a cushion of minutes, it may be worth an extra few dollars per month to not have to worry about overage charges on those "heavy" months... 😉