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paddyoc

Jan 13, 2007, 7:39 PM
Whats up with the official website? The "Compare-o-matic" is full of crap. šŸ˜³ Besides, what good are your mobile to mobile minutes if no one has it? šŸ˜² šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£
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wombough

Jan 13, 2007, 7:50 PM
All depends were you are. I know allot of people that have it in NC and SC.
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AT_Rural_Wireless

Jan 14, 2007, 1:27 PM
Through numerous posts we have confirmed that Alltel's comparison model is NOT full of crap. Only one statement was inaccurate and that's Sprint's M2M issue. Other than that it is correct.
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 1:36 PM
I still say they have exaggerated. But that is what they all do at some point!
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wombough

Jan 13, 2007, 7:59 PM
After reading your post I went there and had to see for myself. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time!!!!! Alltel is good but they really have some lies going on there!!! But I almost peed my pants on one in particular. Americas Largest coverage area. They put next to Tmobile "ameri who!"
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paddyoc

Jan 13, 2007, 9:09 PM
If you scroll over each area of comparison, the lies thicken. The t-mob comparison is funny though. The "Most Super Gymongous Ninja Network", come on, they've got good marketing at least.
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wombough

Jan 13, 2007, 9:12 PM
yeah It hought the tmobile one was so damn funny. And I will give them the marketing on that. However the Cingular verizon and sprint ones are just lies. Like sprint doesn't offer free M2M. Did you read the verizon on the largest network question? No but we have a lot of people with hard hats and helicopters flying around? Something like that. lol
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AT_Rural_Wireless

Jan 14, 2007, 10:50 AM
Wombough, we all know you are a Sprint employee. Well, at least for now if you make it through the cuts.

The head to head comparison is "relatively" accurate. The unlimited M2M on Alltelā€™s website for Sprint comparison is wrong. But was it in the recent past?

As for the rest of the comparison with Sprint it is right.
Verizon comparison Correct!
Cingular comparison Correct!
T-Mobile comparison Correct!

Look, the comparison charts with My Circle to other wireless carriers is ā€œrelativelyā€Ā accurate with one exception. All wireless plans must fit to the individualā€™s need. The same applies to the ā€œactualā€Ā network coverage for the individualā€™s use. Now with that being said, the individual customer needs to select the wireless carrier ...
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 10:59 AM
That shows you how much you now. I am a US Marine and have been serving since 1994. They cover more square miles but NOT more people. So if they want to word it to their advantage fine. Its marketing. But people that now better now when your not available nationwide your not the biggest period!!!! Their are only 3 true nationwide networks. Verizon, Cingular, and Sprint!
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 11:02 AM
One more thing you can cover 10000 miles but if no one is there who gives a Sh*t. Thats like going to Alaska and building a network that covers the entire state when only like couple hundred thousand people live their just to say hey we have the largest coverage in Alaska!!!
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 11:35 AM
Another thing about me. My mobile history as I like and am interested in this technology. My first phone was in 1993 Bell Atlantic Mobile, Then in Hawaii with Honolulu Celluar. When Voicestream(Tmobile) Created a network in Hawaii I had them in 1995. I moved to Beaufort SC and got powertell in 1995 and shortly after got BellSouth DCS. In 1999. In 2000 When sprint built their network there I got them in 2000. I have recently tried alltel and verizon here in Havelock NC. And turned them both back within the trail period unhappy. I have had friend bieng in the military tha have had all said carriers. We all have our bitches and complaints. But over all military wise they mostly go with (from what I seen) in order, Sprint, Verizon, Cingular, Tmo...
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AT_Rural_Wireless

Jan 14, 2007, 12:09 PM
Once again, you concreted my statement. The customer chooses the wireless carrier that works for them. I use Alltel, because their plans and coverage fit what I need. In my area Alltel is king for network coverage followed by Cingular, and T-Mobile. Sprint and Verizon's coverage is very poor in my area. Now that's not saying they are poor companies. Every carrier has its strengths and weakness in a given market. ALL wireless carriers are great but you have to find the one that fits you best. Which several customers donā€™t view that opinion because most customers look at cost (initially). Cost and gimmicks get them in the door and customer service, network coverage keeps them.
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 12:12 PM
I never ever said that you don't go with who works for you. I made a comment on their statements of the compareomatic. They are exaggerated!
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AT_Rural_Wireless

Jan 14, 2007, 11:56 AM
Well, if you are not a Sprint employee then you should not personalize statements on the Sprint forum alluding to employment with Sprint.
In addition, I don't care what your employment status is. Facts are what they are.

Interesting words "cover more square miles but NOT more people". You are correct! Yes, Atlanta does have a larger population than say Idaho Falls. Covered pop's; yes; Sprint, Verizon, and Cingular's covered population is larger than Alltel's covered popā€™s. However, letā€™s compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges.

Alltel is a tier 2/3 wireless carrier with a very small number of tier 1 markets. That makes Alltel the largest RURAL wireless carrier in America. In order to be considered a ā€œnationalā€Ā carrier you op...
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 12:07 PM
I have made many many statements of my employment with the Military and never came close to say I work for sprint. So please check that. Your right sprint and alltel need each other. Never said that. However I have been many places that are not interstate and get fine coverage. So don't make statements that sprint only covers major cities. That is were they initially went for as that is were the people are and since they are a business were the MONEY is.
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AT_Rural_Wireless

Jan 14, 2007, 12:16 PM
The statement was "primary" coverage area. Yes, Sprint does bleed into a few rural areas but not a bunch. Even with that bleed it is not a "great" coverage. Thus, Alltel comes into assist Sprint customers with coverage in rural areas.
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 12:20 PM
yes. Your right I don't know how this got to this point as I won't argue that point. I have been in NC and SC for the last 6 yrs and alltel has wide coverage here. My point was disputing the exaggerated claims on the Compare-o-rama. Sprint is expanding into rural areas as that is the only place they can go into. They are in 99% of major metropolitan cities.
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AT_Rural_Wireless

Jan 14, 2007, 12:22 PM
What are those "exaggerated" claims? I only see one exception where are the others?
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 12:26 PM
one off the top of my head. They say sprints calling plans don't work with every handset. Hmmm Never heard of that!
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 12:31 PM
They are also saying either with cingular you have full bars or none. That is entirely false! They say verizon has this sole guy going around. Its actually a team of people men and women that do that. So that is wrong!
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themps

Jan 14, 2007, 1:06 PM
Well, they are talking about the lack of GSM coverage compared to CDMA coverage in the US. CDMA is much stronger right now.

The special handsets thing was about T-Mobile and the fact that they require certain phones in order to use the MyFave 5 thing. Which they do do...

The only thing that is blatantly wrong is Sprint m2m.

The rest is marketing, but true in one way or another.

They make fun of Verizon's arrogance, Cingular's ridiculous fewest dropped calls claim, T-Mobile's crappy network and attempt to copy Alltel, they are actually pretty nice to Sprint making fun of the trouble they have had with network integration since buying Nextel (the comment about the walkie talkie phones lying around).
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AT_Rural_Wireless

Jan 14, 2007, 1:16 PM
Really!

Here some information to provide clarity on the matter.

Example number 1
NFL Mobile can be used on these phones now available on Sprint.com: Samsung PM-A840, Sanyo PM-8200, Sanyo RL-4920, Sanyo SCP-2400, Sanyo VI-2300, Sanyo Katana, LG Fusic. This is small sample.
Sprint PCS Vision is available only while on the Nationwide Sprint PCS Network.
Sprint does not use minutes for usage like Alltel but they do automatically charge per kilobyte for basic web use.
Unless a Sprint PCS Vision Pack is selected, customers with a Sprint PCS Vision Phone will be charged 3ƂĀ¢ per kilobyte for Sprint PCS Vision usage.
Example number 2
You can not use any handset with ALL of the Sprint/Nextel plans. Read those key words. Fine print is a...
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 1:21 PM
I give up trying to make sense. Those first are not plans but add ons. ANd I can use vision on alltel and verizon. So that is wrong! ANd contrary to what alltel will say sprint and nextel are still separate!!!
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AT_Rural_Wireless

Jan 14, 2007, 1:45 PM
Whatever dude. Sprint reports earnings as a combined company with Nextel. Just because they are still separate in network and other aspects they are a combined company to the industry and consumers. Data is an add-on but the add-on is made into a plan and is reported as such in earning reports. I donā€™t care about the Vision plan issue. The fact is Sprint is having tremendous problems in integrating Nextel and losing market share because of it. Sprint/Nextel on the inside is no where close to being combined but on the outside it is viewed as such. As a combined entity, all of the handsets offered by Sprint/Nextel will not work on all plans. Thatā€™s fact! You can spin it anyway you like it. The facts remain; Sprint/Nextel is viewed by the indus...
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 1:50 PM
So let me ask you. Is all alltel's phones evdo? If no then alltel doesn't offer all services on all plans. Alltel charges for data if you don't pay the monthly fee also. They have said nextel is not going anywhere and will be a sub brand of Sprint. Kind of like sams club owned by walmart! You don't care bout the vision plan issue why because you brought it up and are wrong? I will give them credit they are trying to compete with the top carriers and doing ok. But they are behind in some things. Even their EVDO is lacking as far as speeds. I get 150kb sec with sprints 1xrtt. ANd 263kb with alltel evdo. And sprints evdo I seen up to 600kbs. The point is they are exasperatingly or twisting it to their advantage. Its marketing!
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AT_Rural_Wireless

Jan 14, 2007, 2:05 PM
No, I'm not wrong. Go read so earning reports and listen to the conference calls with the stock market. Then you will see how data is handled. As I stated, that was a small sample of Sprint classifying handsets with certain plans. The real poo is "all plans" and "all handsets". Once again, technology is inhibiting Sprint from offering handset to all plans. You must have a specialized handset to operate on some or should I say the other half of available plans.

Alltel's network is entirely different than Sprint's. Individual based speeds differ greatly and have several factors involved. My EVDO card is running on average 750kbs. In addition, several markets on Sprint have upgrade to revision A. This is good for Sprint and Alltel because A...
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 2:10 PM
I am not pounding it I am trying to get it through your head nextel and sprint plans are different and will continue to be different until they get rid of IDEN. It is like any other carrier if you want what nextel can offer on IDEN and depending on your location go for it. Same as sprint verizon or any other one. I don't care how data is handled. If you want to use it get a plan. 15 a month ofr unlimited is awesome and can't be touched by anyone. And I am bored so I will debate with you if you desire. I am not promoting sprint. As I have said so many times it all matters were you live what you want and so forth!
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 2:21 PM
also let me through this out their. If Cingular bought say Verizon. (I now never happen) but it would be the same as what sprint and nextel are. Two different technologies operating on separate networks and plans. Same reason cingular wouldn't buy alltel. Alltel is not national but to big to convert to GSM.
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AT_Rural_Wireless

Jan 14, 2007, 3:30 PM
Last reply to this string because I done.

Original point was to clarify your statements regarding the Alltel "Head to Head" comparison.

Your comments are "Alltel is good but they really have some lies going on there!!! But I almost peed my pants on one in particular. Americas Largest coverage area.
However the Cingular verizon and sprint ones are just lies."

You were wrong on the "lies" and "Americas Largest coverage area" comment. Only one item can be disputed. So, you can consider that one item as a lie. However, everything else is fact and is not "lies" (excluding the humor). Thatā€™s my point to the whole conversion.

Next point:

I know Sprint and Nextel are separate internally and NEVER said anything to the contrary. Whatev...
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 4:25 PM
its your story tell it how you want!
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AT_Rural_Wireless

Jan 14, 2007, 1:48 PM
In addition, that information was pulled directly from Sprint. That's Sprint's facts about their service not opinion.
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urboyJ

Jan 14, 2007, 12:21 PM
I also know a lot of people in the Military with Sprint...because people in Military have poor CREDIT. You damn right I'd applaud a company that let me have cellular service with no credit...ROCK ON DUDE šŸ˜ šŸ˜ šŸ˜
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 12:32 PM
People in the military have poor credit. That is like all women are inferior to men. Wow people prove their ignorance every day. But the way my credit score is 790. I think that is good!
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 12:34 PM
really what would make you think that? You act like we are all poverty stricken that can't pay our bills.
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foneguy

Jan 15, 2007, 5:35 PM
God in Heaven, I hope Alltel and Sprint don't ever merge.

I don't EVER want to work for/with Sprint again.
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foneguy

Jan 15, 2007, 5:32 PM
You don't understand this thing called advertising, do you?

And people wonder why I chose to be a Ranger over a Marine.

By the way, T-Mobile is a "true nationwide service provider" also.
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mearsfan25

Jan 15, 2007, 9:28 PM
some national carrier, they(TMO) don't even provide coverage in the second biggest banking center in the country...
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themps

Jan 13, 2007, 9:42 PM
You just wish you had the plans we do.

in the areas they serve there are plenty of other people with Alltel. The combination of My Circle, and the extra anytime minutes they allow it far surpasses the other carriers plans. Laugh all you want. We're not the one over paying for cell phone service.
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wombough

Jan 13, 2007, 11:12 PM
please I would be paying 60 dollars easy more with alltel then with sprint. Not to mention alltel take min away when you use data. WTF
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themps

Jan 14, 2007, 12:51 AM
You have a must have SERO plan, that's different. That is like working for the company, not everyone can get it. Even with data we were far under the anytime minutes. Now with SERO Sprint has some very good plans, but with the sheer number of minutes used on My Circle anyone who uses there phone 6000 minutes or so and still has 800 anytime minutes left...that's pretty good. I pay 75 dollars a month for 2 lines, 1000 minutes, 7pm nights, free weekends, m2m, and My Circle. I do pay 5.99 for web access on the phone though. They have a new plan now where it is 79.99 and you can choose either 1000 pic/txt/vid msging or 7pm nights for either line in any order.

Compared to VZW and Cingular it blows them out of the water. The Sprint plans are clo...
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wombough

Jan 14, 2007, 9:10 AM
No I don't have a sero plan. I have a plan from 2003. 5.99 for web access pluss minutes out of your plan. That alone would put me over every month.
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