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ATT Wireless

Nov 10, 2006, 9:17 PM
I read in the Sprint forum that people are speculating that Sprint should buy out Alltel. Sprint is doing so bad right now that I think if Sprint and Alltel were to merge, I am guessing that it would be Alltel buying out Sprint and not the other way around... Thoughts pretty please?! :-)

Yours Warmly,

AT&T Wirless
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nextel18

Nov 11, 2006, 9:50 AM
Hey, buddy.

Since I was the one who put that on the Sprint forum as well as put my analysis into the whole ordeal I would want to talk about it.

It is a good idea that Sprint was to buy out Alltel because it will increase their scale and footprint even more. Since there is a roaming deal in place, it would be better to buy up Alltel, especially since AT is doing quite well.

Do not be foolish in saying that Alltel will buy out Sprint because they cannot afford that. Comcast might not be able to afford Sprint either without raising $40B+ worth of equity.
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wombough

Nov 11, 2006, 10:32 AM
I agree. No matter how well alltel is doing they just can't afford it. Verizon and tmobile is the only ones that could and I don't see that going to happen.
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nextel18

Nov 11, 2006, 10:38 AM
I do not understand why that member mentioned that especially since Alltel does not have the resources to do so and they cannot leverage their balance sheet and still keep their investment grade.

The only companies can afford Sprint are; DT, Verizon, perhaps Comcast, MSFT and a few others. It is quite difficult to raise a lot of money without being detrimental towards your shareholders and bondholders. Cingular, BLS and AT&T, had to borrow $41B plus assumption of debt, which was a lot.

DT might buy out Sprint to combine their US assets, but Verizon wont because of problems by the regulators. Even currently, the Alcatel/Lucent merger and the BLS/AT&T are being scrutinized and obviously, you guys are aware that the BLS/AT&T merger is b...
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xyzpdq123456

Nov 11, 2006, 12:05 PM
That would be sweet if alltel bought sprint!
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nextel18

Nov 11, 2006, 12:08 PM
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wombough

Nov 11, 2006, 6:36 PM
it would be awesome if I buy sprint but I don't live in a dream state. And thats what you are in if you think Alltel could buy them.
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nextel18

Nov 12, 2006, 6:09 PM
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SprintLynchburg_VA

Nov 24, 2006, 4:48 PM
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Nov 27, 2006, 9:30 PM
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Nov 29, 2006, 1:32 PM
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strick6_2

Dec 6, 2006, 8:56 PM
Don't forget that Alltel bought out Sprint communications the first time when they were 1/9th of Sprint's size.
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SprintLynchburg_VA

Dec 6, 2006, 8:58 PM
they have never bought out sprint communications, sprint cellular
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wombough

Dec 6, 2006, 9:02 PM
that was the old sprint if I am remembering right. Before they started on the the only all digital all PCS nationwide network! And alltel might have been 1/9th the size but the old sprint cellular was 1/1000 of what it is now!
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SprintLynchburg_VA

Dec 6, 2006, 9:17 PM
yea we sold off or AMPS division, genius move!!! Now every carrier wantes to get rid of it. When the FCC opened up on 1900 MHz Sprint jumped on it.
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jareddude42

Dec 17, 2006, 3:19 PM
i find it really funny the fact that everyone talks about how these companys can buy sprint which still hasnt completed its current merger and how there network is far superior to sprint yet all of them deep down run off of the only coast to coast fiberoptic netwwork owned and operated by sprint
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SprintLynchburg_VA

Dec 18, 2006, 11:10 AM
*cough*Embarq*cough*


Agreed, but correcting.
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nextel18

Dec 5, 2006, 9:56 AM
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SprintLynchburg_VA

Dec 5, 2006, 10:00 AM
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nextel18

Dec 5, 2006, 10:07 AM
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SprintLynchburg_VA

Dec 5, 2006, 10:08 AM
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nextel18

Dec 5, 2006, 10:15 AM
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SprintLynchburg_VA

Dec 5, 2006, 11:10 AM
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nextel18

Dec 5, 2006, 11:15 AM
what would they fight with?
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SprintLynchburg_VA

Dec 5, 2006, 11:17 AM
I'd say Nokia 5160's w. pull up antennas as light sabers.
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nextel18

Dec 5, 2006, 11:26 AM
hahah. should be interesting.
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SprintLynchburg_VA

Dec 5, 2006, 11:31 AM
"Come and get your love" would be Scott Ford's fight song heh (thats the song on all the alltel commmercials).

Gary Forsee in spandex yellow w/ the Going Forward logo looking like a bumblebee, Is how I see it going down.
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themps

Nov 11, 2006, 6:41 PM
Plausible or not. I would rather have Alltel running the show. They make Sprint look like 2 year olds. πŸ™‚
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MJWC

Nov 19, 2006, 9:54 AM
From marketwatch.com.....
[b]Citigroup sees Comcast buying wireless co., possibly Sprint[/b]

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Citigroup believes there is a 40% chance that cable provider Comcast Corp. will acquire a wireless communications provider within the next 12 months, with Sprint Nextel a likely target. Analysts Jason Bazinet and Mike Rollins said T-Mobile is also a possible target of Comcast, but they think Sprint is more likely given its WiMax spectrum, Internet protocol backbone and small business sales force. Sprint shares closed Thursday up 25 cents at $20.14. Separately, Bazinet and Rollins said merger activity between cable and wireless companies would be constructive for Alltel Corp.and American Tower Corp., but may pose risks fo...
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strick6_2

Nov 20, 2006, 9:19 PM
FYI...Sprint can't afford Alltel either, and there is a roaming aggreement. Sprint and Alltel just signed an EVDO roaming agreement.
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nextel18

Nov 22, 2006, 4:55 PM
Sprint can afford Alltel- do not say things that you have no idea please. They could always leverage their balance sheet and they do have cash. They also will seek synergies from this potential situation.

So if there is a roaming agreement? It would be better if Sprint would own those customers instead of collecting roaming agreements.
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dave73

Nov 24, 2006, 10:50 PM
I always thought that Sprint only wanted a PCS network. Alltel has mostly a cellular network, with PCS primarily in the south , but did acquire some already built PCS networks in Michigan & Kentucky with the buyout of divested AT&T markets. I don't know where else Alltel got built out PCS networks, but Alltel prefers a cellular network, and I don't know if Sprint wants a cellular network. My understanding is the Nextel network is being converted to CDMA PCS from 800 SMR. But my personal feeling is I don't see either one buying out the other anytime soon. I would be concerned that if Sprint bought out Alltel, the Alltel network might suffer. You also have to remember that Sprint affiliates would sue to have markets that Alltel competes...
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nextel18

Dec 5, 2006, 9:55 AM
It just has to deal with the spectrum, customers and towers mainly and it doesn’t really make a difference that much in technology changes because they could just adjust. If there will be other problems with the other affiliates good chance they will be bought out so it is not a big deal.
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lefteyeiu2006

Nov 12, 2006, 1:13 AM
I could see Alltel buying U.S. Cellular, Metro PCS, and a few other smaller CDMA carriers. If they did that then they could become a national carrier instead of a regional carrier.
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dave73

Nov 24, 2006, 11:03 PM
lefteyeiu2006 said:
I could see Alltel buying U.S. Cellular, Metro PCS, and a few other smaller CDMA carriers. If they did that then they could become a national carrier instead of a regional carrier.


Now if Alltel could buyout USCC, then that would get them into Chicago, Milwaukee, Madison Wisconsin, & Sheboygan, but I wonder what would happen in overlapping areas where USCC has the A side in southern Wisconsin & Alltel having the B side, especially around Appleton & Wisconsin Dells as examples. Aso Alltel would be forced to divest some of the same networks that they were forced to divest a second time in Nebraska & Kansas. But then if USCC doesn't get all of their PCS network built out in Indiana, the...
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U.S. CellKid

Nov 27, 2006, 7:32 PM
FYI U.S. Cellular is not for sale as of now. They are catching Alltell so watch out guys. If they did come up with the 11 billon + dollars it would cost they would have filled the holes in a lot of there coverage areas.. St Louis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Quad Cities, U.S. Cell is planning on Launching Twin Cities in early 08. They dominate the markets they serve. I would anticipate a merger before a hostile takeover. This has come up before but they couldn't agree on a price.
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nextel18

Nov 27, 2006, 8:37 PM
Do not be ridiculous with that not for sale remark, because every company out there is for sale, but the right price will allow the transaction to go through. The most important thing is that this company, USM, or US Cellular, is a publicly traded company meaning that this can be sold unless it has a poison pill in place for a certain period, but it can be sold. They would also be worth $11.5 billion with a $2000 per subscriber valuation.
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atl0man

Nov 28, 2006, 9:01 PM
I think you have oversimplified your concept of valuations, debt ratings, etc. Sprint is a valid takeover/merger target for Alltel for a number of reasons. Alltel has quite a bit of cash on hand as a company, and has a very good credit rating as a company. This means they have a good shot at buying out a company with a lot of bad debt like Sprint. US Cellular probably not, because they have an odd ownership situation etc.
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U.S. CellKid

Nov 29, 2006, 6:45 PM
In my orignal post thats why I said there not for sale as of now... TDS owns 82% but has a few steps in possibly buying the remainder interest. If that happens it would make for a cleaner transaction. However, they are as of now doing well as a stand alone regional competitor. I don't see a sale/merger in the near future. If anything a they might be looking for a potential acquistion..
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nextel18

Dec 5, 2006, 9:49 AM
You cannot say that they are not for sale, enough with the stupidity and awful posts. If it is public and for the right price it can be bought out unless as I mentioned before it has a poison pill such as Sprint.
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U.S. CellKid

Dec 5, 2006, 6:23 PM
Nextel18 ok fine maybe they would sell at a huge premium but they have a ton of growth potetntial...SO why not wait aquire more subs and sell for a higher profit later. The only reason i could see them selling now would be if the bigboys get so competitive that there marging start dropping like a rock...let me know what you think 😳
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nextel18

Dec 5, 2006, 9:48 AM
Of course, they are a valid takeover target but Alltel could never afford Sprint. Actually quite frankly not many others could afford Sprint either. Perhaps not even Comcast without leveraging a lot of its balance sheet and affecting (negatively) its balance sheet.


You think they could buy out Sprint but not USCC? Ouch.
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Davidjk

Nov 12, 2006, 4:30 PM
ummm maybe I missed something... or maybe im just dumb about these things 😎 but isnt Nextel/Sprint GSM? Is it that easy to change a CDMA network to GSM? Maybe you should be talking about VZW and Alltel joining 😳 VZW already leases some towers from Alltel.
kthxbye
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themps

Nov 12, 2006, 7:37 PM
No, Sprint is CDMA, and Nextel is iDen. The only gsm is cingular and t-mobile.
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drksyde

Nov 30, 2006, 5:31 PM
Cellular One/Unicel are GSM
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themps

Nov 30, 2006, 10:05 PM
I meant ones that are of any size.

Dobson is the only other one that might be worth mentioning. Suncom and all the other small ones are pretty much always covered with and better by the national two.
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ACaver

Dec 5, 2006, 4:50 PM
If Sprint were to buy alltel that just means that alltel will be dropping every call because sprint has horrible reception.....But on the other side of hands if sprint does buy alltel that means that alltel will have better phones
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wombough

Dec 5, 2006, 5:27 PM
there you go talking out of your ass!! I have had sprint for 6 yrs from fl to cali to NJ with no problems on reception or dropped calls.
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wombough

Dec 5, 2006, 5:29 PM
one other thing when someone calls my number it rings unlike alltell you get a click click click click click and either ring or voicemail and the average phone user won't know its the system trying to locate your phone and they will hang up on the first or second click.
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themps

Dec 6, 2006, 11:10 PM
The opposite is true for my area. Sprint is the worst carrier here. Alltel is the best. Coverage, call quality, data everything. You have to remember. Cell phones reception, like politics, are local.
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themps

Dec 6, 2006, 11:17 PM
Also.....

That click thing you are talking about is nextel. I've never run into that with Alltel.
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wombough

Dec 6, 2006, 11:22 PM
oh now its alltel. You get it calling them and when placing a call. i had them once!
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themps

Dec 7, 2006, 1:59 AM
When? Before they were digital?
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wombough

Dec 7, 2006, 11:55 AM
no. When I roam its with alltel too and it click click click ring. All mobile networks do it. They have to find the phone its just that alltel lets you know they are looking for it with clicks. Nextel does it with a message. Sprint verizon and cingular you just hear ringing but their phone might not ring until the 2nd or 3rd ring. It also it like that in reverse. You hit send and it takes time to connect through. But most people don't know what the clicking is.
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themps

Dec 7, 2006, 3:07 PM
Yes, it depends on the area and what kind of switch they are using I believe. Alltel uses all three Motorola, Nortel, or Lucent. Some areas you go to don't have it because it is a different kind of switch. The ones in my area are Nortel and do not have the click. I believe all new switches are Nortel. They converted all the Illinois Midwest Wireless equipment over to Nortel from Ericson BTS when they bought them out.
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