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push to talk/walkie talkie

phone_guru101

Aug 2, 2004, 8:57 PM
Ok ok forgive me for being ignorant but...

whats so good about this whole push to talk/walkie talkie thing? Whats the difference with someone on a nextel phone with PTT and someone using a sprint or verizon or cingular line and talking on speaker phone? (Apart from those annoying beeps of course).
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muchdrama

Aug 3, 2004, 9:05 AM
phone_guru101 said:
Ok ok forgive me for being ignorant but...

whats so good about this whole push to talk/walkie talkie thing? Whats the difference with someone on a nextel phone with PTT and someone using a sprint or verizon or cingular line and talking on speaker phone? (Apart from those annoying beeps of course).
Nextel's had a decade or more to perfect PTT, and its latency is far superior. Their cell service, on the other hand...
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MarkF

Aug 4, 2004, 5:25 PM
Remember it's Motorola that invented/perfected iDEN and NEXTEL capitalized on it.

NEXTEL didn't invent anything except for excellent advertising and a successful FCC waiver which still stands today. Now they are going to pay out the butt to move Public Safety but at least they will get continuous 800 spectrum and possibly 1.9 GHz.
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mwawa

Aug 5, 2004, 12:47 PM
when nextel switches to there new network cdma or gsm will there ptt stay at the same speed or will there be a delay using this on a different technology then there iden network
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MarkF

Aug 5, 2004, 6:30 PM
mwawa said:
when nextel switches to there new network cdma or gsm will there ptt stay at the same speed or will there be a delay using this on a different technology then there iden network


It will be a very long time until NEXTEL will be able to sucessfully deploy qchat or some other VoIP PTT technology and when they decide to do it I'm sure it will be as close to iDEN as it can get in the speed/latency areas.

My feeling is NEXTEL will use it's newly acquired 1.9 GHz spectrum for data and once the re-banding is completed will begin to utilize the current NPSPAC 821 NPSPAC PS 800 MHz spectrum for interconnect and PTT. WiDEN will be deployed with the 6:1 vocoder in 800 MHz and will fix some of their capa...
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nextel18

Aug 15, 2004, 11:21 PM
"Until then there will be a lot of headaches during the re-banding and I'm sure NEXTEL will loose customers due to performance issues of the network"

i dissagree. they wont loose any customers due to this becuase everything will be overtime and at night where the network upgrades takes place. plus they will do it at the top markets first and then work on their smaller ones.
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MarkF

Aug 16, 2004, 7:24 AM
nextel18 said:
"Until then there will be a lot of headaches during the re-banding and I'm sure NEXTEL will loose customers due to performance issues of the network"

i dissagree. they wont loose any customers due to this becuase everything will be overtime and at night where the network upgrades takes place. plus they will do it at the top markets first and then work on their smaller ones.


You forget that the end user will be required to bring in their handsets for reprogramming of the control channels. As some of the users are using phones that aren't type accepted for the 821/866 band they will need replacing.

Will NEXTEL pay for the new phone, I highly doubt it. Fleetcall (aka NEXTEL 15 yrs. ago)...
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nextel18

Aug 18, 2004, 12:07 AM
nextel has to pay for everything though with this consenus plan if they accept the order. but anyway nextel wont face any capacity issue as long as they keep building cell sites and has the 6:1 voice coder on the system.

i dont think many poeple will leave nextel regardless. becuase their push to talk is the best and verizon and sprint cant do antyhing about it.

like i said when nextel keeps improving their footprint and their capacity they will get a lot more people. and gettin rid of the interference would help as well with the coverage and capacity. plus nextel has the best churn and the best arpu and lifetime revenue per user and other things industry. they have those very important metrics becuase of mainly of their direct conn...
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Dyingunman

Aug 18, 2004, 9:06 AM
yea youre right i dont think nextel feels threatened by the other carriers like t-mobile does, it stands well on its own 😎
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nextel18

Aug 23, 2004, 2:04 PM
yea they do.
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muchdrama

Aug 25, 2004, 10:42 AM
nextel18 said:
"Until then there will be a lot of headaches during the re-banding and I'm sure NEXTEL will loose customers due to performance issues of the network"

i dissagree. they wont loose any customers due to this becuase everything will be overtime and at night where the network upgrades takes place. plus they will do it at the top markets first and then work on their smaller ones.
Are you that naive to think the rebanding process won't produce headaches? "They won't have problems because they won't have problems"? Great reasoning. Don't listen to Mark...he only works in the industry. And I don't mean as a Nextel direct counter monkey.
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monza700

Aug 4, 2004, 1:43 PM
phone_guru101 said:
Ok ok forgive me for being ignorant but...

whats so good about this whole push to talk/walkie talkie thing? Whats the difference with someone on a nextel phone with PTT and someone using a sprint or verizon or cingular line and talking on speaker phone? (Apart from those annoying beeps of course).


Mainly, it allows for quicker responses than using a cell phone, it also allows group direct connect, which is great for rallying troops? πŸ˜› or speedily informing your employees of any pertinent information (like hey delivery guys, don't take road... it's blocked).

It also calculates usage in seconds instead of minutes and you're only charged if you initiate the conversation (or take lo...
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lwalters

Aug 19, 2004, 12:32 PM
Here's why PTT is useful in addition to regular calls (you do realize that Nextel phones also make regular calls, right?):

1. it's a fast connection. That is, the person I'm connecting is notified in a second, rather than the cell service looking to find the person's cellular line and then ringing it. I've used sprint and AT&T before, and there's often a delay between placing the call and hearing the phone start ringing; and

2. there are times when I do not have cell service, but I can still direct connect. In fact, during hurricane Charley, there were times I couldn't call on my cell phone or my home phone, but could direct connect;

3. With businesses, you can set up your phone to notify many people at once, like a private wa...
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MarkF

Aug 19, 2004, 7:58 PM
lwalters said:
Here's why PTT is useful in addition to regular calls (you do realize that Nextel phones also make regular calls, right?):

1. it's a fast connection. That is, the person I'm connecting is notified in a second, rather than the cell service looking to find the person's cellular line and then ringing it. I've used sprint and AT&T before, and there's often a delay between placing the call and hearing the phone start ringing; and

2. there are times when I do not have cell service, but I can still direct connect. In fact, during hurricane Charley, there were times I couldn't call on my cell phone or my home phone, but could direct connect;

3. With businesses, you can set up your phone to notify man
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nextel18

Aug 23, 2004, 2:05 PM
yea i agree with that also..
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wmbray

Aug 21, 2004, 3:01 AM
I am impressed with Nextel's radio service. While visiting Jackpot, Nevada, I noticed that most cell phones did not work. The Cactus Pete Casino up there has TDMA through Edge Wireless but Verizon is dead at that popular tourist trap.

A Nextel customer went tripping through town using his phone- without any problems at all. Their push to talk works fine even in that remote town.
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