ask people what providers they have? go into the stores to see who has the most traffic. things like that.

Well I am new in the area.. Don't really know anyone... And just looking for a job, can you give me some pros and cons about this company maybe?

yea, sure.
1. good coverage area in your area
2. they have good data plans with the blackberry 7520 which is a big hit.
3. their benefits are extremly good if you work for the direct store or corp store.
4. their pay is good, although i cant actually break it down, becuase it depends in each market.
5. they care about the employees as well as the customers.
6. they ranked number 9 in the top 50 business week ranking and number 1 out of the wireless companies.
7. the best management and execs in the land
8. top 100 with training, meaning they care for their workforce.
9. excellent workforce diversity.
10. does a lot of sponsorships.
11. i am not sure if they have any cons. they have some problems with their coverage in some a...
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A little.. I am mainly looking between Verizon, Cingular and Nextel... I used to work for a third party seller back home in GA, but we only sold Cingular. I liked it, but I have never worked directly for the companies though... Do you?

yea, i used to work directly with sprint and i sort of work directly for nextel. (i used to work for nextel directly though in their corp stores. i loved it and it was fun)

i wouldnt work for cingular becuase they will probably be laying off people becuase of that merger, however, the same could happen with nextel/sprint, but not in a dramitic way as cingular/att will be doing. verizon, i belive is very good, but nextel is very good too. you have a hard choice. nextel or verizon.

What do you do now, if I may ask? (Only because you said you used to work for them, just wondering why you left) Also with the Sprint/Nextel merger, there seems to be a lot of those stores (meaning Sprint and Nextel stores) in this area, which is why I am kinda leery. But then again there are ALOT of Cingular stores and Verizon stores too. I am very confused but I know I need to get a job soon, I need to get some money saved before I go back to school in September. 😕

i used to work for sprint for their corp retail stores then i went over to nextel's corp retail stores then i moved up. ( i didnt leave becuase of any reasons, it was just becuase nextel has always been my favorite becuase they offer good bennefits and their managers and execs are great) i mostly do now is consultant work in my area about new towers and stores and things of that nature. if they are direct stores meaning that its just nextel and just sprint later on they will probably be placed into 1 store if there is 2 in that area, however, i cant mention any details on that whole situation. what i can say is that sometimes they could keep both stores to increase their traffic to meet demand.

i would pick nextel over verizon and cingul...
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It is a hard decision because there is a pending merger there and it seems like there are a lot of stores around here, and most that I have seen told me they were corporate stores. I just would hate to make the mistake of walking in and then getting booted out in a few months, you know? Also don't fight with the people in the Cingular "room" it makes you seem mean, and from what I see here in this "room" you seem really nice 😁

yea, but you wont be booted for months, even years if that even happens. think about this. 2 stores are better then 1 especially if traffic picks up. i dont fight with anyone 🙂 i just state my opinions, however, its against their provider so they attack me back. ☹️ oh well. its just a forum lol... now, if you were to work at the sprint stores i would think that you could be facing problems, becuase the sprint employees arent the best especially against nextel.

thanks for the compliment.

See the other thing is that I have a Sprint phone now, from GA using it in PA (lol 🤣 bad sense of humor, I know), and the service stinks... Is it gonna get better? Because if it doesn't then I don't know if I would want to work for them then. Only reason is that I can't hold a call for more than 10 minutes with my pappy without it cutting out. 😕

well what i would do is this. call up sprint's customer care and tech support and try to see whats wrong. becuase as you know it could be your phone, but it also could be something wrong with a tower or towers there. the cell phone could be a problem becuase it transmits to the tower. remember its a two way street. the phone connects to the tower and vice versa. so i would call them up and see if you can do a network ticker or something like that to determine the problems thats going on with your phone or service. well they are rolling out 3k+ towers per year, so you should assume that. nextel will be building out 3k per year as well. my bet is that it would def. get better. 45k towers nationwide and a lot of spectrum, you better belive it. ...
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nextel18 said:
i mostly do now is consultant work in my area about new towers

You couldn't do a tower site survey if your life depended on it. Don't lie now!

no reason to lie, my friend. i know where all the towers are in this area. (my area)

That's not what you said in your post. You may know where all the existing towers are in your area, but you have no idea what it takes to construct a new tower facility from the ground up, which is what your post stated.

nextel18 said:
i mostly do now is consultant work in my area about new towers

of course i do. talk to zoning boards and things of that nature. but thanks for caring. unfort, you have no idea what i do. so i wouldnt comment on anything. (since you dont know)

You have posted what you do on more than once, especially on the Cingular thread and on this one:

http://www2.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

Re: a few things coming in may

by nextel18 May 1, 2004, 1:15 PM

i have a nextel store and expanding to more locations but other than that i have stock and property so i get an income per month so i dont have to work like u guys hahahahahaha retards..

what can nextel do with that 96mhz ? nationwide? or half nationwide?

So your saying that what is posted above is not true either? I wish you would make up your mind already!

MarkF said:
You have posted what you do on more than once, especially on the Cingular thread and on this one:

http://www2.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

Re: a few things coming in may

by nextel18 May 1, 2004, 1:15 PM

i have a nextel store and expanding to more locations but other than that i have stock and property so i get an income per month so i dont have to work like u guys hahahahahaha retards..

what can nextel do with that 96mhz ? nationwide? or half nationwide?

So your saying that what is posted above is not true either? I wish you would make up your mind already!He's a man of industry I guess.

Yeah no kidding...and on other threads he claims that he doesn't work too....

What a joke! 🤣

i dont work. i already said that 100 times.

Whatever....

lol.. thought so.

Well if you think your so smart, why don't you prove to me that you know/work in the tower/cellular industry. Answer a some basic questions for me to prove to me and everyone else on the board that you do:

What is HAAT?
What is AGL?
What is the industry construction standard for towers?
What is the loss in dB for 150' piece of
1 5/8" hardline?
What is the ERP of a 50 watt transmitter into a transmission line with 3dB of loss into an antenna with 9dB of gain?
What is a TTA?
How many channels in a T-1?

I'll come on later after the gym to see how you did.

i dont have to prove to you about these thigns, sorry. i know my thing, i know what i do, again i dont have to prove anything. sorry 🙂

nextel18 said:
i dont have to prove to you about these thigns, sorry. i know my thing, i know what i do, again i dont have to prove anything. sorry 🙂

Well, in all politeness, you may want to stop asking us to prove ourselves constantly.

why? i am saying about proving the facts that you get, such as sub growth, how flarion is dead, how nokia and STM are teaming up and things of that nature. i do that, so i expect you to. the thing is what i am saying is that i dont have to prove MYSELF to anyone and you dont have to either. i was just asking to back your statments up with the things i have mentioned. thats all.

nextel18 said:
why? i am saying about proving the facts that you get, such as sub growth, how flarion is dead, how nokia and STM are teaming up and things of that nature. i do that, so i expect you to. the thing is what i am saying is that i dont have to prove MYSELF to anyone and you dont have to either. i was just asking to back your statments up with the things i have mentioned. thats all.

I never ask you to prove yourself. I don't care if you prove yourself or not. But when someone tells you something legitimate, shouldn't a bell go off in your head? Why on earth would I make up anything about STM and TI? Does that sound right? Geeze, man.

morning.. of course you always ask me to prove myself, and i do that. no remember according to you i am stupid. etc.. dont you remember that? and i was a kiosk boy?

nextel18 said:
morning.. of course you always ask me to prove myself, and i do that. no remember according to you i am stupid. etc.. dont you remember that? and i was a kiosk boy?

Look, I told you all that was done and past. Why on earth would I make something up like this particular deal? I've nothing to gain by lying to you.

its like a characterist of many people on here to do.

nextel18 said:
its like a characterist of many people on here to do.

Well, I didn't lie. HellMoto proved it to you. I wouldn't make up such a thing.

i know he did, but why wouldnt you instead of making up 100's of excuses. he didnt have to do it but you did becuase it was your burden of proof. (why do you still have to argue about that? and why do you keep bringing it up? i was right you do have a broken record and you cant move on. oh yea and another thing, why do you keep assuming i said you lie? i never said that.)

nextel18 said:
i know he did, but why wouldnt you instead of making up 100's of excuses. he didnt have to do it but you did becuase it was your burden of proof. (why do you still have to argue about that? and why do you keep bringing it up? i was right you do have a broken record and you cant move on. oh yea and another thing, why do you keep assuming i said you lie? i never said that.)

I no longer care about this subject. I'm done with you on this.

You don't have to prove yourself, but he is going to ask you anyways.

of course he does. if he says somethign like that i expect them to back it up with some facts, becuase i do. (with certain things like conversations and things like that its difficult but with links its very easy)

Sorry, bad pronouns.
The "he" in "he will ask you anyways was YOU nextel18".

But thanks for your reply to confirm my post.

yawnn.. anyway i am off to celebrate passover.

nextel18 said:
yawnn.. anyway i am off to celebrate passover.

Pfft. We don't give a fig.

Just what I thought...you know absolutely ZERO about the tower industry.

Test is over and you fail! 😈

oh i do. like i said before, i dont have to prove to some one like yourself about my knowledge about towers and things of that nature. sorry.

Its not a problem. It just reinforced how much of a fake you are and that your previous post about your involvement in the tower industry is just a facade...

keep dreaming, my friend. i know what i do, you dont. 🙂 thanks.

You have posted it all over this board more than once. We all know what you do.

yep.... 😎

So why are you unwilling to answer his questions. You'll get him and many others off your back. And before you give us your standard answers of "I dont't have to" and "I don't care what you think" it would take the same amount of time to answer legitimately.

I really have tried to give you the benefit of the doubt sometimes, but in every incident you shoot yourself in the foot or you just refuse to shoot at all.

You are still a conundrum. The bad thing is you have the power to change that and refuse to pull the trigger.

i already said it had to do something with towers and things of that nature. i dont have to "prove" myself online.

if you dont like my posts then stop responding or lookin at them.

By the way...here are the answers for anyone who wants to know:

MarkF said:

What is HAAT? Height Above Average Terrain.

What is AGL? Above Ground Level.

What is the industry construction standard for towers? EIA/TIA 222.
http://www.tiaonline.org/standards/search_n_order.cfm »

What is the loss in dB for 150' piece of
1 5/8" hardline? 3.255dB at 800MHz and 5.2dB at 1900 MHz.
http://www.antennasystems.com/rfhardline.html »

What is the ERP of a 50 watt transmitter into a transmission line with 3dB of loss into an antenna with 9dB of gain? 200 Watts ERP.

What is a TTA? Tower Top Amp.

How many channels in a T-1? 23, the 24th one is utilized for overhead & alarming

MarkF said:
Well if you think your so smart, why don't you prove to me that you know/work in the tower/cellular industry. Answer a some basic questions for me to prove to me and everyone else on the board that you do:

What is HAAT?
What is AGL?
What is the industry construction standard for towers?
What is the loss in dB for 150' piece of
1 5/8" hardline?
What is the ERP of a 50 watt transmitter into a transmission line with 3dB of loss into an antenna with 9dB of gain?
What is a TTA?
How many channels in a T-1?

I'll come on later after the gym to see how you did.

wow i am in the industry and i do not know the answer to even one of your question 😕

but then again i am not near the end al...
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he is basically talking about the channels, towers, zonning and things of that nature.

nextel18 said:
he is basically talking about the channels, towers, zonning and things of that nature.

That's right...the minimal stuff you would need to know in order to do tower/site consulting work.

exactly.

nextel18 said:
exactly.

Wow. That went right over your head as well.

and many things go over your head. who cares.

MarkF said:

nextel18 said:
he is basically talking about the channels, towers, zonning and things of that nature.

That's right...the minimal stuff you would need to know in order to do tower/site consulting work.

Mark! I've got a question for you. Could Nextel's upgrade to WiDen cause any service problems in the areas the upgrade was taking place? Any disruptions? Any degredation of service? I'm curious.

let me just tell you this.. the consensus plan will probably impact consumers heavily if they dont plan it right.

nextel18 said:
let me just tell you this.. the consensus plan will probably impact consumers heavily if they dont plan it right.

I'll agree with you on that one. I imagine that Nextel and Sprint both know how important it is for this merger of technologies to go smoothly. Nextel is an extremely well managed company.

see i want to let you know there is a huge differnce between changing spectrum and frequency on a tower then just uploading some software onto it.

i just want you to understand that.

nextel18 said:
see i want to let you know there is a huge differnce between changing spectrum and frequency on a tower then just uploading some software onto it.

i just want you to understand that.

Okay. I do understand that. And I hope you'd understand that with a man made structure such as Nextel's network, any time you perform an upgrade there's always a chance of a service disruption. And I do understand that WiDen is designed to alleviate network congestion.

" any time you perform an upgrade there's always a chance of a service disruption"

not at the times they do it.

"And I do understand that WiDen is designed to alleviate network congestion."

not exactly. widen enhances the capacity and bandwidth which allows more people to be on the data side. same with 6:1 but on the voice side.

muchdrama said:Mark! I've got a question for you. Could Nextel's upgrade to WiDen cause any service problems in the areas the upgrade was taking place? Any disruptions? Any degredation of service? I'm curious.

Well with any service upgrades it's always very difficult to implement major changes without any service interruptions.

From what I know about WiDEN is that its deployed on each sector as a broadband channel (50KHz instead of 25KHz). I would expect it to create capacity issues:

1. at the specific site while channels are takes out of service to install the WiDEN transmitters
2. For users of older generation (2 digit) phones that can't access the 6:1 vocoder that is typically allowed at sites w...
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MarkF said:

muchdrama said:Mark! I've got a question for you. Could Nextel's upgrade to WiDen cause any service problems in the areas the upgrade was taking place? Any disruptions? Any degredation of service? I'm curious.

Well with any service upgrades it's always very difficult to implement major changes without any service interruptions.

From what I know about WiDEN is that its deployed on each sector as a broadband channel (50KHz instead of 25KHz). I would expect it to create capacity issues:

1. at the specific site while channels are takes out of service to install the WiDEN transmitters
2. For users of older generation (2 digit) phones that can't access the 6:1 vocoder that

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muchdrama, they upgrade at night and when people arent using the cell site so there wont be any disruption. i dont know if you know this, but they usually do it from 12-3 maybe 4am. many people arent on at those times. after that time they wouldnt upgrade anymore. what happens when you upgrade a cell site? you need to shut it off and bring over another one to support that area.

nextel18 said:
muchdrama, they upgrade at night and when people arent using the cell site so there wont be any disruption. i dont know if you know this, but they usually do it from 12-3 maybe 4am. many people arent on at those times. after that time they wouldnt upgrade anymore. what happens when you upgrade a cell site? you need to shut it off and bring over another one to support that area.

No offense, but I'll take the opinion of an actual engineer.

oh well. think what you want i guess. i take my information directly from them anyway.

nextel18 said:
muchdrama, they upgrade at night and when people arent using the cell site so there wont be any disruption.

When upgrades require antenna and/transmission line changes they do this work in the daylight hours. Users are currently impacted as right now NEXTEL is deploying 900MHz iDEN nationwide. They are changing to dual band antennas at almost all of their sites and this requires them to remove the 800 stations from service, install dual band couplers, and sweep lines/antennas with TDR's.

These are major changes and cause disruption as they take hours at a time to complete.

thats with the consensus plan. i am talking about software such as widen and 6:1.

"Users are currently impacted as right now NEXTEL is deploying 900MHz iDEN nationwide"

where did you hear this? nextel's cfo said last time they arent even using this yet.

nextel18 said:
thats with the consensus plan. i am talking about software such as widen and 6:1.

"Users are currently impacted as right now NEXTEL is deploying 900MHz iDEN nationwide"

where did you hear this? nextel's cfo said last time they arent even using this yet.

NEXTEL has deployed 900 MHz in Florida, NY, Chicago, and in California. It's the only way they can keep alive while the re-banding is in process. They need to offload the call traffic somewhere while they shut off transmitters between 851 and 854MHz. They have also begun installing 900 MHz BDA's in places that they have 800 MHz systems currently. It's obvious that your CFO hasn't a been advised about infrastructure deployment as I ...
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no no, i mean the CTO not CFO sorry.


"NEXTEL has deployed 900 MHz in Florida, NY, Chicago, and in California"

do you have proof of this? in their 10k maybe?
anyway,


"As to your other comment...there is a lot more to wireless than modulation schemes. You continue to not think outside the box."

not when it comes to upgrades for software, however, for re-banding you would be correct.

by the way they arent deploying it yet. they will start to deploy it on june 27th of according to this http://www.ita-relay.com/800_MHz/The_Process. html.


Beginning June 27, 2005, voluntary negotiations will commence between Nextel and incumbent licensees currently utilizing channels 1-120 (851 – 854 MHz) in Wave 1 regions. The outline below provides additional detail concerning the reconfiguration process that will unfold.

Nextel shuts down operations on its former General Category channels (851-854.75 MHz) and temporarily shifts its operations to its other spectrum holdings, likely 900 MHz, for the given Region.


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so its likely at those times people will be facing some difficulty if they dont plan it right as well as some...
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"NEXTEL has deployed 900 MHz in Florida, NY, Chicago, and in California"

this isnt true...

florida isnt in wave 1, its in wave 3.
NY is in wave 1
chicago(IL) is in wave 1
california is split in 2 waves. north= 1. south= 4.

i already posted a link on that whole situation and map..

https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

and https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php ?fm=m&ff=6&fi=245475

good luck..

The deployment of 900 MHz is occuring before the consensus plan. You are incorrect as 900 stations are in use in the states that I said earlier.

You don't go to the sites so you wouldn't know.

they wouldnt be deploying 900mhz where they arent starting the rebanding process yet.

How much money do you want to loose....cause if this was a bet I'd be takin your cash big time!

i dont bet sorry.

how come then if you think they are deploying 900mhz in the wave 1 region that on my phone and in my area it doesnt say 900mhz on my phones when i go to current freq?

Because 900 is only for offloading interconnect calls. 900 is not utilized for control and therefore will never show up on the trace mode.

but if you said they are going to be substituting the 800mhz band (some of it) in waves 1-4 (wave 1 now) why wouldnt the 900 show up on the trace mode?

according to the cfo of nextel they said that they would use the 900mhz on the network. (wouldnt that show up on the trace mode, especially as a substitute?)

(with what you are saying i will varify it with my RF people. for now i will belive you)

The reason why is that the control channel band plan that is in the current phones do not include 900 MHz. At the time that the 3 digit phones (prior to the i860's) were put on the market the 900 MHz spectrum didn't officially exist for NEXTEL, which means they would not be utilized for a control channel.

Now I haven't looked at the codeplug for an i860 and I don't know if it has the bandplan for 900 in it, but even if it did there aren't enough of them out there to warrant wasting a 900 channel to blast out data instead of taking an interconnect call.

Is it making sense now?

i have a question for you; you state all of those things, but can you prove it? i want some links please.

i understand it.

I highly doubt that you will find NEXTEL posting this information in a public forum or in an on-line article. This would be considered proprietary technical information, but if you have the ability to read a codeplug for an i730 you will see that there are no CC's in 900 MHz. This would clear it up for you in an instant.

I used to have a .pdf on how iDEN works on my work PC, but I don't think it's specific to any carrier. I'll check tomorrow to see if I still have it and post the url.

thanks. see now, its about proving something with links. i just like that becuase it will just show that you are right and obviously i cant argue with facts becuase that would be stupid. you didnt argue with my stuff on the rebanding issue becuase you knew it obviously and didnt want to argue that you were wrong a bit on the wave 1-4. etc.. but thats ok.

sorry for the lack of belief its just that many people on here just say info that isnt true. (its not you its just them)

if you find anything thanks, becuase i remember at conference calls they mentioned that they used 900mhz in their handsets and network.

thanks anyway.

nextel18 said:
sorry for the lack of belief its just that many people on here just say info that isnt true. (its not you its just them)
thanks anyway.

Who on here say's it isn't true besides you? I haven't seen anyone else speaking up.

i always say things that are true, you and a few others dont.

here is something interesting i found.


http://forums.wirelessadvisor.com/archive/index.php/ ... »

on a forum (obviously)
this was from 2004 too.

They are also the nation's largest licensee of 900MHz SMR spectrum in the 935-941MHz band, and early last year, turned off their remaining analog Motorola SMR systems to make way for iDEN at 900MHz. Most of their newer handsets will operate there, and there is some iDEN being rolled out on 900MHz.


http://wirelessreview.com/mag/wireless_nextel_means_ ... »

(from 2001)

could help too..


from the CTO

Nextel today averages about 20MHz in the 800MHz and 900MHz frequencies nationwide.

“After some of the recent deals, people have been wondering what in the heck we...
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It doesn't help, it just reinforces what I have been saying all along.

no it doesnt lol.. i said that nextel's new phones are having 900mhz in it. you didnt think so.

nextel18 said:
no it doesnt lol.. i said that nextel's new phones are having 900mhz in it. you didnt think so.

I never said that. All along I have said that NEXTEL IS DEPLOYING900 MHz and you said they weren't. Besides the FCC type acceptance on all of the 3 digit iDEN phones include the 900 MHz SMR spectrum.

Don't you remember saying this:

https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

Re: i930, when; not when you think its coming out

by MarkF Sep 8, 2004, 5:39 PM

nextel18 said:
they dont even use the 900mhz spectrum they have for any of their phones.

Oh yes they do. They hold licenses all across the U

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i know.. they are very good. you said that the phones dont have 900 on them.

So I guess you missed on this post as well on NEXTEL utilizing the 900MHz spectrum, hence having to use it to offload traffic for the re-banding:

https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

Re: i930, when; not when you think its coming out

by MarkF Sep 11, 2004, 7:31 AM

Well if the investors were so smart they would read the following by the FCC:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FC ... » ...

May I point out the following pages:

Page 7 - In complying with the obligations we place upon it in this Report and Order, we recognize that Nextel may have to shift some of its operations from the 800 MHz band to 900 MHz band frequencies in order to provide the “green

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and you thought that nextel wasnt using the 900mhz on their phones. so we both missed.

yea, very happy.

links prove a point.

but it just says that they might have to shift it to the 900mhz spectrum on the network, but they didnt do that yet, becuase the consensus plan doesnt start for a month or 2. (in wave 1)

nextel18 said:
and you thought that nextel wasnt using the 900mhz on their phones. so we both missed.

yea, very happy.

links prove a point.

but it just says that they might have to shift it to the 900mhz spectrum on the network, but they didnt do that yet, becuase the consensus plan doesnt start for a month or 2. (in wave 1)

Show me the post where I actually state that "NEXTEL doesn't have 900 on their 3 digit phones" please.

As to your other comment at the bottom, just because the re-banding doesn't start for a few months has ZERO bearing on NEXTEL using 900 MHz. It will take months, if not a year or more to fully deploy 900. The equipment just doesn't show up overnight in the sites. It t...
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"Show me the post where I actually state that "NEXTEL doesn't have 900 on their 3 digit phones" please."

you can look. i remember you saying that. i dont want to take my time searching for you. you can do it. i knwo you can. plus i know you said it.

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it wont take a year to deploy 900, especially if they do wave 1 first. all they have to do is put it in the wave 1 areas then when it gets closer to the ending of the wave 1 rebanding. then they can take the 900 off and then put 900 on wave 2 etc....

nextel18 said:
"Show me the post where I actually state that "NEXTEL doesn't have 900 on their 3 digit phones" please."

you can look. i remember you saying that. i dont want to take my time searching for you. you can do it. i knwo you can. plus i know you said it.

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it wont take a year to deploy 900, especially if they do wave 1 first. all they have to do is put it in the wave 1 areas then when it gets closer to the ending of the wave 1 rebanding. then they can take the 900 off and then put 900 on wave 2 etc....

Prove it with a URL or I don't believe it....I'm giving you back exactly what you tell everyone else here. If you have no interest in proving your point then it shows that it doesn't ...
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i just wanted to mention about the whole rebanding situation.. i asked the RF person who i deal with on a regular basis about that question. this is what he said. "we dont have to do anything to our antennas for rebanding, but we do have to perform retunes on our network. any changes to the network are done late at night, and we are all out in the field to test when major retunes go in( makes for a rough weekend, usually getting up at 3AM on Sat morning). thankfully we dont have too many retunes happening."

nextel18 said:
i just wanted to mention about the whole rebanding situation.. i asked the RF person who i deal with on a regular basis about that question. this is what he said. "we dont have to do anything to our antennas for rebanding, but we do have to perform retunes on our network. any changes to the network are done late at night, and we are all out in the field to test when major retunes go in( makes for a rough weekend, usually getting up at 3AM on Sat morning). thankfully we dont have too many retunes happening."

That would be correct, NEXTEL typically uses Hybrid combiners that are broadbanded and don't require tuning and the 800 basestations are re-tuned remotely.

The only times the 800 ant...
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i know.. i am just letting you know and others.. you said they add the 900mhz antennas onto the cell sites, but they dont.

That is a whole different topic. Adding 900 equipment does require an antenna swapout/addition.

Re-tuning and band change are different animals.

oh ok.. i guess it was lack of communications. sorry 🙂

nextel18 said:
"Show me the post where I actually state that "NEXTEL doesn't have 900 on their 3 digit phones" please."

you can look. i remember you saying that. i dont want to take my time searching for you. you can do it. i knwo you can. plus i know you said it.

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it wont take a year to deploy 900, especially if they do wave 1 first. all they have to do is put it in the wave 1 areas then when it gets closer to the ending of the wave 1 rebanding. then they can take the 900 off and then put 900 on wave 2 etc....

You don't want to search because you, Mark and I all remember Mark never saying that. I just wanted to point that out to the rest of the board so people know who's truly lying.

no i just dont want to search becuase i dont have to waste my time doing so. i already repeated this once. if you want me to repeat it hundreds more times let me know.

nextel18 said:
no i just dont want to search becuase i dont have to waste my time doing so. i already repeated this once. if you want me to repeat it hundreds more times let me know.

We just can't believe your hypocritical behavior. We've got to prove everything to you, but you won't offer us any proof to your remarks.

No you were one who said it...look at your origional post there dude.

http://www1.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

what does that post prove? i already said that nextel has their 3 digit phones with the 900mhz spectrum. dude!

wrong...I said that, you didn't.

The previous post proves that!

you said that there is no 900mhz in any phones, i said that there is.

nextel18 said:
you said that there is no 900mhz in any phones, i said that there is.

No he didn't. And I ask that all Nextel forum goers read your entire conversation with MarkF to prove you're not telling the truth.

lol... shows how much of a life you have. lol.

again it says here...

"For the spectrum in the 800 MHz band that we surrendered under the Report and Order, we are permitted to continue to use that spectrum during the reconfiguration process, but we may be required to discontinue use of a portion of this spectrum upon commencement of reconfiguration within the applicable market. As part of the reconfiguration process in most markets, we will cease use of a portion of the 800 MHz spectrum that we currently use before we are able to commence use of replacement 800 MHz spectrum in that market. To mitigate the temporary loss of the use of this spectrum, in many markets we will need to construct additional transmitter and receiver sites or acquire additional spectrum in the 800 MHz or 900 M...
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This is very old news...your not posting something that I already do not know.

It may help others following this thread to understand though...

yea, i know. just helping out everyone.

nextel18 said:
they wouldnt be deploying 900mhz where they arent starting the rebanding process yet.

Dude, he's seen it with his own two eyes. He's been at the sites as they performed the changeover. What's it take with you? Looking at a 10k and actually standing at a site as changes are made are two totally different things. Man, you're unbelievable.

muchdrama said:

nextel18 said:
they wouldnt be deploying 900mhz where they arent starting the rebanding process yet.

Dude, he's seen it with his own two eyes. He's been at the sites as they performed the changeover. What's it take with you? Looking at a 10k and actually standing at a site as changes are made are two totally different things. Man, you're unbelievable.

I guess we can't convince him...his mind is already made up. 🙄

i doubt he has. i dont belive a word he says unless he has proof. (same goes with you and everyone else)

i talked to my RF people every day and would belive them over markf.

nextel18 said:
i doubt he has. i dont belive a word he says unless he has proof. (same goes with you and everyone else)

i talked to my RF people every day and would belive them over markf.

You doubt I have what? Seen the 900 stations and them hanging antennas? Why would I lie about that? I have NEXTEL on tower sites that I have designed and have been inside their shelters more than 200 times.

If you don't believe me that's fine, but I think I have the masses on this site siding more with me than you no matter how much you insist on cutting and pasting websites.

MarkF said:

nextel18 said:
i doubt he has. i dont belive a word he says unless he has proof. (same goes with you and everyone else)

i talked to my RF people every day and would belive them over markf.

You doubt I have what? Seen the 900 stations and them hanging antennas? Why would I lie about that? I have NEXTEL on tower sites that I have designed and have been inside their shelters more than 200 times.

If you don't believe me that's fine, but I think I have the masses on this site siding more with me than you no matter how much you insist on cutting and pasting websites.

That's a hell of a compelling argument if I've ever seen one. That's the nail in the c...
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i dont belive it. markf isnt a real RF, just plays one on here. i talk to the RF people on a regular basis and they tell me differntly. he thought that consumers would be effected by the 6:1 and widen upgrades. one of the RF people who i talked to said there hasnt been on trouble ticket yet. (regional one) plus they do it at night for 15 mins so that it wouldnt effect the network. both you and markf didnt know that. you guys thought it would effect consumers HAHAHAHAHAHA.

nextel18 said:
i dont belive it. markf isnt a real RF, just plays one on here. i talk to the RF people on a regular basis and they tell me differntly. he thought that consumers would be effected by the 6:1 and widen upgrades. one of the RF people who i talked to said there hasnt been on trouble ticket yet. (regional one) plus they do it at night for 15 mins so that it wouldnt effect the network. both you and markf didnt know that. you guys thought it would effect consumers HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Mark's the expert. People come here for his opinion, as he's the only one that truly works in the industry.

no he isnt. he thought that widen and 6:1 would effect consumers- it hasnt. he didnt think that 900mhz were in phones it does. didnt know too much about the rebanding process.

nextel18 said:
no he isnt. he thought that widen and 6:1 would effect consumers- it hasnt. he didnt think that 900mhz were in phones it does. didnt know too much about the rebanding process.

He explained everything to a "T"...truthfully and factually. Notice how no one goes to you for answers?

people have. just people like you who doesnt want to learn anything just are into markf's pocket just sucking up to him. i know, its ok.

nextel18 said:
people have. just people like you who doesnt want to learn anything just are into markf's pocket just sucking up to him. i know, its ok.

Yeah, I know it's okay to look to Mark for facts. Thanks for agreeing with me.

you said that no one goes for my answers and people do. how is that agreeing with you? lol... doesnt make sense, but that fits you.

post something to prove your points please. so far, i dont belive you. i would tend to belive a REAL RF person than you 🙂

nextel18 said:
i doubt he has. i dont belive a word he says unless he has proof. (same goes with you and everyone else)

i talked to my RF people every day and would belive them over markf.

Buddy, you don't believe anybody about anything. People that work in the industry. People that work as engineers. People that work in carrier management. Prove this, prove that...show me a link otherwise you're a liar. You're driven your reputation and credibility so far into the ground, you'll never find it again. If people want any kind of clear cut, useful information, I'll be sending them to Mark any day of the week. A truly smart guy, and apparently a very adept engineer.

wow coming from you who doesnt contribute to this board? lol hahahahah.

i would belive my RF people over him anyday.

nextel18 said:
wow coming from you who doesnt contribute to this board? lol hahahahah.

i would belive my RF people over him anyday.

That's okay. Believe them all you want. But know that when people want true and real information, they come to Mark.

lol.. i doubt it. markf isnt a true RF. those people who i talk to are true and real.

much, you should read this, and i asked the questions about WIDEN AND 6:1 to my regional RF person....

"Split 3:1 was implemented and is running on the network when and where it's needed to relieve capacity issues. Seems to be working fine and no trouble tickets yet (it's been 3 months since we've been in full swing). WiDEN hasn't been officially released, but it's ready to go. When downloads like this happen, they bring down the site. It happens around midnight for about 15 minutes. Sites are brought down a few at a time so as not to just turn off the whole network for 15 minutes. "

hope that helps and thats from a REALL RF person.

nextel18 said:
much, you should read this, and i asked the questions about WIDEN AND 6:1 to my regional RF person....

"Split 3:1 was implemented and is running on the network when and where it's needed to relieve capacity issues. Seems to be working fine and no trouble tickets yet (it's been 3 months since we've been in full swing). WiDEN hasn't been officially released, but it's ready to go. When downloads like this happen, they bring down the site. It happens around midnight for about 15 minutes. Sites are brought down a few at a time so as not to just turn off the whole network for 15 minutes. "

hope that helps and thats from a REALL RF person.

You know where you come up short every time? When you ref...
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i can say they are my RF people. i talk to them on a regular basis; thus they are mine. should i say this? the RF people that i discuss things on a daily basis? would that suit your fancy?

mark is an engineer? i highly doubt that. i would belive the people who i deal with then mark. sorry.

nextel18 said:
i can say they are my RF people. i talk to them on a regular basis; thus they are mine. should i say this? the RF people that i discuss things on a daily basis? would that suit your fancy?

mark is an engineer? i highly doubt that. i would belive the people who i deal with then mark. sorry.

Again, that's great. Believe who you want to believe...but Mark's the engineer. He designs the towers.

same with those RF people who i talk to on a regular basis.

nextel18 said:
i can say they are my RF people. i talk to them on a regular basis; thus they are mine. should i say this? the RF people that i discuss things on a daily basis? would that suit your fancy?

mark is an engineer? i highly doubt that. i would belive the people who i deal with then mark. sorry.

Why do you think that I am not? Because I'm not a NEXTEL employee?

Let me just state the facts that:
1. a lot of wireless companies, including NEXTEL, hire outside consultants. It saves them money by not having to worry about paying benefits to these individuals even though their initial outlay of monies is more

2. The specialties that these consultants bring is not required day in and out ...
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no becuase you were wrong many times with the whole upgrade situation with widen and the split 3:1 or 6:1 voice coder. (saying there would be problems, when the RF people i talk to said there hasnt)

you were also wrong sort of about the consensus plan and about what areas they are going to be doing and things like that.

you were also wrong about the 900mhz being in phones.

again, i would belive them over you. sorry.

nextel18 said:
no becuase you were wrong many times with the whole upgrade situation with widen and the split 3:1 or 6:1 voice coder. (saying there would be problems, when the RF people i talk to said there hasnt)

you were also wrong sort of about the consensus plan and about what areas they are going to be doing and things like that.

you were also wrong about the 900mhz being in phones.

again, i would belive them over you. sorry.

This is the same person you told a few posts ago "I believe you" after he shoved enough true information down your throat to kill a horse.

alright my friend. i said i would belive him for now. (that is basically saying as you would say "whatever")

he doesnt know what he is talking about with the 900mhz on the phones, the consensus plan, and other things, but thats ok.

your his little friend it looks like.

nextel18 said:
alright my friend. i said i would belive him for now. (that is basically saying as you would say "whatever")

he doesnt know what he is talking about with the 900mhz on the phones, the consensus plan, and other things, but thats ok.

your his little friend it looks like.

No. I'm not his friend. Mark and I don't even know each other. But you know what? I think I could be his friend if we knew each other out in the world, as he's a stand up guy who knows what he's talking about.

How can you "belive" someone and not believe them? That doesn't make any sense at all.

you can with some things they say, especially with no links or just common sense that doesnt fit the logic.

like you said that the widen and 6:1 effected people. i would say i wouldnt belive you then becuase the RF person who i delt with who i quoted for you said there arent any problems. so yea.

nextel18 said:
you can with some things they say, especially with no links or just common sense that doesnt fit the logic.

like you said that the widen and 6:1 effected people. i would say i wouldnt belive you then becuase the RF person who i delt with who i quoted for you said there arent any problems. so yea.

That would be "dealt".

lol wow you are pathetic. why dont you go bother someone else? i mean your obviously not smart when it comes to this wireless industry. all you can do is correct people. you have no input with anything you say.

nextel18 said:
lol wow you are pathetic. why dont you go bother someone else? i mean your obviously not smart when it comes to this wireless industry. all you can do is correct people. you have no input with anything you say.

Oh, so you "belive" that I'm not smart and have to be "delt" with? Do you see where this is going?

yea, that your a nerd. lol thats obvious. i cant talk/type however i want, but you are a nerd who corrects everyone becuase you cant contribute to this board, becuase you lack knowledge in this industry.

read this again...

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Beginning June 27, 2005, voluntary negotiations will commence between Nextel and incumbent licensees currently utilizing channels 1-120 (851 – 854 MHz) in Wave 1 regions. The outline below provides additional detail concerning the reconfiguration process that will unfold.

Nextel shuts down operations on its former General Category channels (851-854.75 MHz) and temporarily shifts its operations to its other spectrum holdings, likely 900 MHz, for the given Region
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i am sure you know what wave 1 is. (if not i already posted it for you)

This has no bearing on the deployment on 900 MHz, besides how many field techs do you think NEXTEL has. There is no way that they can:

1. Deploy 900 MHz
2. Retune their 800 System
3. Coordinate the re-tuning of public safety, and
4. Do preventative maintenance and repairs all at the same time.

They just aren't that big.

Oh yeah, how silly of me to forget that you have no idea what it takes to build or maintain a cell site. 🤣

thats why there are negotiations with the whole rebanding and retuning of the 800mhz system.

Well it's not on the topic of WiDEN but would be another good reason for service disruptions:

https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »

M

stevelvl said:

MarkF said:
Well if you think your so smart, why don't you prove to me that you know/work in the tower/cellular industry. Answer a some basic questions for me to prove to me and everyone else on the board that you do:

What is HAAT?
What is AGL?
What is the industry construction standard for towers?
What is the loss in dB for 150' piece of
1 5/8" hardline?
What is the ERP of a 50 watt transmitter into a transmission line with 3dB of loss into an antenna with 9dB of gain?
What is a TTA?
How many channels in a T-1?

I'll come on later after the gym to see how you did.

wow i am in the industry and i do not know the answer to even one of your question 😕

but

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its all true, my friend.

Yeah right...in your dreams maybe.

nah, no dreams. reality.

nextel18 said:
ask people what providers they have? go into the stores to see who has the most traffic. things like that.

Randomly walk around your home town and ask people what providers they have?

if you want to do that, by my guest.

nextel18 said:
if you want to do that, by my guest.

No, that's what you just suggested. I was showing my incredulity.

alrighty... you didnt suggest anything, how come?

nextel18 said:
alrighty... you didnt suggest anything, how come?

You never asked me to. I just thought it to be a little comical to go around asking everyone within eyeshot what cell service they use.

thats what you think, i guess. its a good way to see what provider people use in that area. (as well as to check in the stores for traffic)

I don't know about where you are - but here the state has a website that posts statistics about different companies in the area concerning job growth, market shares, etc. They also allow employers to post positions for free and job seekers can search through them for free. Something like that seems like it would be a little more objective (and probably more successful in the long run) than to just go around asking people what carriers they like. Just my opinion though . . .

quite interesting. 🙂