GMS technology: better sound quality than CDMA?
I had Cingular. I dropped a huge amount of phone calls. But the few times that I was able to talk to other people, their voice sounded very good. "crystal clear" if you will. But of course the dropped calls made me switch to Verizon.
I have yet to drop a call in the few days that I've had Verizon service. And I have coverage virtually everywhere, here in NYC. Even inside my building. I had 2 bars with Cingular in the building; now I have 5.
But there's something funny about the sound quality of the person talking to me. They seem to be mumbling. I find myself asking "what?" often.
It's not terrible but noticeable and it makes a difference to me.
I hear T-mobile provides better overall service than Cingular in New York City, so
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I have yet to drop a call in the few days that I've had Verizon service. And I have coverage virtually everywhere, here in NYC. Even inside my building. I had 2 bars with Cingular in the building; now I have 5.
But there's something funny about the sound quality of the person talking to me. They seem to be mumbling. I find myself asking "what?" often.
It's not terrible but noticeable and it makes a difference to me.
I hear T-mobile provides better overall service than Cingular in New York City, so
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King, when and what phone were you using with Cingular in NYC? Your story sounds kind of unusual to me because NYC was one of the markets the Telephia specifically stated Cingular had the fewest dropped calls in. I've been there a few times with my Cingular phone and haven't experienced any trouble either.
Perhaps the problem was not with the network, but with something else? Did you powercycle often? Swap out phones? Get your SIM card checked out?
Let me know, because it's interesting that you experienced that.
Recent drive tests by a leading wireless research company show Cingular's network performance was second to none in completing and holding a wireless call in metropolitan New York and northern New Jersey. The results were ...
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Perhaps the problem was not with the network, but with something else? Did you powercycle often? Swap out phones? Get your SIM card checked out?
Let me know, because it's interesting that you experienced that.
Recent drive tests by a leading wireless research company show Cingular's network performance was second to none in completing and holding a wireless call in metropolitan New York and northern New Jersey. The results were ...
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Oh and yes, I do agree that GSM has better sound quality than CDMA. When I was with Verizon before, and very briefly with Sprint, all the calls sounded "tinny" to me.
GSM is said to have the truest sound in wireless.
GSM is said to have the truest sound in wireless.
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RUFF1415 said:
GSM is said to have the truest sound in wireless.
Indeed. There's something about CDMA, the voice quality is over-filtered. (This is only good when you are driving) On a GSM phone, when you are driving you kind of sound as if you were in the shower 🤣 On a CDMA phone you can't even tell the other person is driving. (over-filterd) This causes the "S's" and the "F's" to kinda sound alike (to me) Hence the misunderstandings "Huh? what?"
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Anxiovert said:RUFF1415 said:
GSM is said to have the truest sound in wireless.
Indeed. There's something about CDMA, the voice quality is over-filtered. (This is only good when you are driving) On a GSM phone, when you are driving you kind of sound as if you were in the shower 🤣 On a CDMA phone you can't even tell the other person is driving. (over-filterd) This causes the "S's" and the "F's" to kinda sound alike (to me) Hence the misunderstandings "Huh? what?"
GSM uses a better vocoder than does CDMA.
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YEA WHEN I HAD CINGULAR I HAD A DROPPED CALL ALL THE TIME!! AND THAT WAS ABOUT 2 YEARS AGO AND NOW MY SISTER STILL HAS CINGULAR WITH THE SAME PROBLEMS. I NOW HAVE TMOBILE AND LOVE IT I HAVE ONLY GOTTON LIKE 15 DROOPED CALLS IN 2 YEARS 😁
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Well, I had the motorola v220, and I didn't buy it from a official T-mobile store. I got it in a store called Wireless Advantage on Varick st. downtown.
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cingular has a habit of making statements about the performance of their network but never revealing who did the testing. Essentially a worthless statement unless you can have proof to back you up.
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It was in their press releases. They also have cited them in several news reports covering the Big Three's claims to network superiority. You can find that information at Cingular's website if you're really concerned that they are lying.
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RUFF1415 said:
It was in their press releases. They also have cited them in several news reports covering the Big Three's claims to network superiority. You can find that information at Cingular's website if you're really concerned that they are lying.
I never said that they were lying. I said why didn't they indicate where this "superior" claim originated. You really need to calm down.
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cingular has a habit of making statements about the performance of their network but never revealing who did the testing. Essentially a worthless statement unless you can have proof to back you up.
From that statement, most would assume that you were suggesting Cingular is untruthful.
Again, they do state where this claim originated.
And I am calm. Did you see any exclamation points, words in all caps, bold, underlines in my post? Nope. Just stating my response.
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RUFF1415 said:cingular has a habit of making statements about the performance of their network but never revealing who did the testing. Essentially a worthless statement unless you can have proof to back you up.
From that statement, most would assume that you were suggesting Cingular is untruthful.
Again, they do state where this claim originated.
And I am calm. Did you see any exclamation points, words in all caps, bold, underlines in my post? Nope. Just stating my response.
You need to stop interpreting what I wrote and just go for what I wrote. I never said anything about being untruthful. I merely said that they said it without any sort of proof that this might be s...
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Currently Cingular is being sued for their ad saying that they are the carrier with the fewest dropped calls so obviously there has to be some deception on the part of cingular going on here. Also, of the people I know, Cingular is always the carrier with the most complaints involving call quality and dropped calls.
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Check out the last RCR. Says that Cingular is being sued by Sprint for their claim. Not that Sprint could make this claim, just that Cingular is misleading people.
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See now, you got the story wrong.
Sprint is not suing Cingular for their claim. They only filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau to have Cingular's claim pulled. However, Cingular passed the BBB entirely and made a suit against Sprint for their "Most Powerful Network" claim. They also requested that a judge make an official court ruling on their "Fewest Dropped Calls" claim.
Sprint sued nobody. Cingular sued Sprint.
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
Sprint is not suing Cingular for their claim. They only filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau to have Cingular's claim pulled. However, Cingular passed the BBB entirely and made a suit against Sprint for their "Most Powerful Network" claim. They also requested that a judge make an official court ruling on their "Fewest Dropped Calls" claim.
Sprint sued nobody. Cingular sued Sprint.
https://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&f ... »
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YMMV but despite Verizon having better coverage I have had fewer dropped calls with TMobile. But a lot may depend on your area and the phone used. I have no problems with the GSM audio (nor with CDMA). The only carrier I had real issues with was pre-GSM AT&T (now Cingular) and Nextel with both dropped calls and poor quality.
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what kind of phone do you have with Verizon?
there is a difference in the sound quality between GSM and CDMA but in most newer handsets its only slightly evident. GSM has a more "real" sound to it but also picks up alot more background sounds where as CDMA has a less "real" sound to it but eliminates background noises alot better so its really up to you. if your not able to hear people it is most likely due to your handset becuase iv never had a problem.
there is a difference in the sound quality between GSM and CDMA but in most newer handsets its only slightly evident. GSM has a more "real" sound to it but also picks up alot more background sounds where as CDMA has a less "real" sound to it but eliminates background noises alot better so its really up to you. if your not able to hear people it is most likely due to your handset becuase iv never had a problem.
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I have the Motorola 815.
It's not so much that I can't hear people. It's something similar to what a previous member said. He claimed that certain letters such as the F and S sound alike. And the sound quality is sufficiently good, But I want crystal clear, clearly defined sound.
Last night my girlfriend said something about my walls, and I heard my "balls". Then she said it louder: "your walls!" and I heard "balls" again.
Someone pointed out that the background filtering is strong. And this is a good thing. But perhaps it's just a bit too strong.
Another thing is that I borrowed my sister's phone last night, which is a Sprint phone, (i don't remember the model number) I tested it and it sounds identical to my Motorola. Correct me...
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It's not so much that I can't hear people. It's something similar to what a previous member said. He claimed that certain letters such as the F and S sound alike. And the sound quality is sufficiently good, But I want crystal clear, clearly defined sound.
Last night my girlfriend said something about my walls, and I heard my "balls". Then she said it louder: "your walls!" and I heard "balls" again.
Someone pointed out that the background filtering is strong. And this is a good thing. But perhaps it's just a bit too strong.
Another thing is that I borrowed my sister's phone last night, which is a Sprint phone, (i don't remember the model number) I tested it and it sounds identical to my Motorola. Correct me...
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I dont know its been a long time since iv used a GSM Handset (old Aerial Days) but I dont ever notice any issue with hearing people maybe you just have sensitive ears.
If you are not satisfied with the service on your CDMA device you have 15 days to return it and cancel service.
If you are not satisfied with the service on your CDMA device you have 15 days to return it and cancel service.
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You usually notice the differnce when you go from CDMA to GSM. That's when you notice the difference. (at least that's when I noticed the difference)
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Does anyone notice when you're talking on a CDMA phone (Verizone mainly) the phone gets "hot" after 5-10 minutes of usage? I do not have that problem with GSM phones. By the way, my "headaches" are no longer there since I've switched to GSM-Cingular.
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I can't say that I have ever used a GSM phone to compare this to, but yes, I have noticed the phone getting hot after a relatively short conversation and it stays quite warm for a while after I end the call and this is on my verizon phone a CDM8900.soon I am switching to GSM so this will not happen with GSM phones?
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Pretty much the best way to make a comparisson would be like between your first girlfriends tits and your currnet wife's! One girls tits are ok, and the others are just absolutley luscious.... unless you married your first girlfriend, in which this analogy would not apply. gsm would be your wifes perfect luscious tits.
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There is a difference in sound between GSM and CDMA... I cant quite pin-point it yet but there is one... GSM sounds pretty good but I've noticed that with CDMA the sound is louder by default and you are able to hear better... Not a significant difference but like I said there is a difference... Both are good... For some reason, Sprint sounds the best to me (crystal clear) ...
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Some techs would tell you the difference you hear between the two is the vocoder installed on the handset. I disagree. They're both great technologies. One just happens to be more widely used (all over the world) than the other. Reasons (allegedly) were because of expense. GSM was more affordable and deployable than CDMA (even though the US went with TDMA in the onset). Now-a-days, that's not necessarily the case.
To me, key issue(s) are the reliability of the network (coverage, dropped call, etc, etc) and second would be price. Whichever technology they use would be invisible on my end.
To me, key issue(s) are the reliability of the network (coverage, dropped call, etc, etc) and second would be price. Whichever technology they use would be invisible on my end.
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