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3G in the US with Tmobile?

wkwan18

May 22, 2006, 8:26 PM
Does anyone know if T-Mobile is going to be using 3G? I know Cingular is now launching a few phones that are capable of it.
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terryjohnson16

May 22, 2006, 10:03 PM
T-Mobile can't launch a service they don't have spectrum for yet. Thats what they are waiting for on August 9th, when the FCC auctions off wireless spectrum. The auction was supposed to be June 29, but it got delayed. They might launch 3G either end of this year, or early next year.
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Anxiovert

May 23, 2006, 11:42 PM
2008
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DP556

May 27, 2006, 8:37 AM
as far as i know its just a matter of them purchasing the spectrum then flipping a switch from "off" to "on"...but who knows..that is of course, not including the distribution of new 3g handsets...2008 is probably a good estimate
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terryjohnson16

May 27, 2006, 12:37 PM
I say 2007.
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RUFF1415

May 27, 2006, 3:25 PM
Do you really think that T-Mobile would "waste" their money building out a network, if they don't know they can use it? Honestly, if they started to equip towers with 3G technology already, that is about the most illogical thing I have ever heard.

What good would all of that equipment be if they *just happened* to lose out big time in the spectrum auctions?

Do you know for sure that T-Mobile has already started to install HSDPA?
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sowhatsowhat10

May 27, 2006, 3:44 PM
aint no way in heck they started already. the whole object is to gain spectrum first. am i correct.

i believe they were going to bid in the 2100 or 1700 spectrum.
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terryjohnson16

May 27, 2006, 5:45 PM
They do have towers already built in some locations. They don't want to and can't disclose where. That means they have some towers up and ready for 3G, but haven't made the locations of them available or turned on to the public.
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sowhatsowhat10

May 27, 2006, 7:50 PM
terryjohnson16 said:
They do have towers already built in some locations. They don't want to and can't disclose where. That means they have some towers up and ready for 3G, but haven't made the locations of them available or turned on to the public.


how though? the current band t-mo use are 1900 and 850 with roaming partners. i remeber a while back reading t-mo need more spectrum and where going to bid in the 1700 or 2100 band for their 3g services. so now are they gonna muster up spectrum in the 1900 band for 3g? how'd they do it?
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terryjohnson16

May 27, 2006, 9:18 PM
They have towers, but they just can't broadcast the service since they have to know how much spectrum they have in each market. Here is an article about it:
http://www.betanews.com/article/TMobile_Plans_for_Gr ... »
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NokiaTMo

May 27, 2006, 10:01 PM
Another thing to keep in mind is that they probably do not want to "enable" the 3G network until they have a substantial enough footprint to offer competitive service in enough areas. IF they enabled it and sold the phones now, your 3G T-Mobile phone would only work in the areas where the towers are, which are in any case few even if they already had the spectrum.
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terryjohnson16

May 27, 2006, 10:07 PM
That's similar to what I said above. I think they are already ready in some locations just like the article states, but need to know which spectrum band they win at the FCC, and how much they win for each of their markets.

I am wondering if they will be able to use that spectrum to increase their voice network too.
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terryjohnson16

May 27, 2006, 5:44 PM
They do have towers already built in some locations. Haven't you read when the T-Mobile higher uppers stated that they are in testing of the 3G network, but can't disclose where. That means they have some towers up and ready for 3G, but haven't made the locations of them available or turned on to the public.
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sowhatsowhat10

May 27, 2006, 7:53 PM
terryjohnson16 said:
They do have towers already built in some locations. Haven't you read when the T-Mobile higher uppers stated that they are in testing of the 3G network, but can't disclose where. That means they have some towers up and ready for 3G, but haven't made the locations of them available or turned on to the public.

can you provide a link please? i gotta see this for myself.

(not being a smart@$$).
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ygbhen

May 27, 2006, 10:29 PM
Why dont TMo skip 3G all together. By the time they come to the party, Verizon and Sprint will be so far ahead its pitiful. Plus Cingy will also be at least a year and a half ahead. They should do just what Sprint is doing with Nextel. Forgo 3G and look forward to 4G. Just makes the most since to me.
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terryjohnson16

May 27, 2006, 10:30 PM
They need Spectrum first and foremost. Then they can bump to the next generation data network. Plus, alot of companies are still trying to decide which 4G technology they want to use. HSDPA is 3.5G tech.
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ygbhen

May 27, 2006, 10:35 PM
Yeah, but I think it is foolish of them to get into the game that late. Then you also have to look at who is actually making phones in the 2100/1700 band. I do not see manufacturers lining up to support this. Look how hard of a time Cingy is having getting all of their suppliers to add 3G 850 to the phones. I think they are gonna be in for a world of trouble with this.
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terryjohnson16

May 27, 2006, 10:43 PM
Cingular is crazy, since they are using 3G on the same spectrum they are using for voice. They are using 3G on the 850/1900MHz bands. When T-Mobile launches 3G they will have seperate bandwidth to use for 3G. No phone has the 1700/2100MHz bands since the FCC hasn't even made that spectrum available. Once the auction starts the carriers will have it for use, and then the phones with the new bands will be used. That will be interesting, since the phones will have GSM 850/1800/1900/1700/2100MHz band all on one phone.
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