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T-Mobile and AMP'd rumor....

mahoodlum

Jan 17, 2006, 12:26 PM
So, yesterday as I was having my Verizon phone looked at by a technician I had some time to kill (45 minutes) so I decided to take a walk in the mall and look at the competition, i.e. cingular and T-mobile, both of which I am interested in joining for reasons I will not go into at this point. However, the lady at the T-mobile kiosk and I got into a lengthy discussion, it began discussing things that T-mobile and cingular customers can do with their phones, i.e. unlocking them to gain more features (can't do that with Verizon) and then about the advantages of traveling abroad and still being on the network, ultimately we came to the issue of buying out contracts. I was mentioning how it would be a good policy for T-mobile to do such things ...
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southwestcomm

Jan 17, 2006, 4:23 PM
Moron. AMP'd uses Verizon's network.
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mahoodlum

Jan 17, 2006, 4:38 PM
Thanks for the rude comment, the point isn't for T-mobile to buy out AMP'd, the point is that they may work together on buying out customer contracts from their competition, such as Verizon, but AMP'd is not Verizon, it just uses their towers.
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Out2L8

Jan 17, 2006, 5:10 PM
Doubt it. Hard enough getting turn overs from CDMA providers - but entice them into a completely different network? Doubt it.
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Hello Moto

Jan 17, 2006, 8:51 PM
It's not goint to happen. Contract serves two very important purposes... 1) it lowers the cost of the equipment so that the cheap society we have become can pay for them... and 2) it helps to keep a steady customer base. If every company had to worry about how many customers they had each month it would wreck havoc on their numbers. Contract will always be here. You are correct that T-mobile has one year contracts, but for the BETTER price on the phone, you will need two years, just like Cingular and Verizon. AMP'D is to new of a company to do anything like that. They will be in the hole for a few years to come and can't compete with the big boys let alone take on unneeded debt...
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mahoodlum

Jan 17, 2006, 10:07 PM
I honestly don't think it will be high debt...I mean it is not as if the US is the best market for Cell phones, in fact most know that Europe is superior to us in technology and use of cell phones. yet over there the same companies that work here do actually buy out contracts. T-mobile exists globally, Vodafone the owners of Verizon wireless, Cingular does not to my knowledge have an owner overseas, but nonetheless, if they do it there why not here?
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djdelay

Jan 17, 2006, 10:11 PM
because people pay a fortune for service and equipment overseas.
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mahoodlum

Jan 17, 2006, 11:04 PM
I would have to disagree...at least look at this offer

http://www.tmobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=m18_relax ... »

and another

http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=home ... »

so basically it comes out to about the same price and cheaper monthly service...so go figure
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Hello Moto

Jan 18, 2006, 8:20 PM
mahoodlum said:
I would have to disagree...at least look at this offer

http://www.tmobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=m18_relax ... »

and another

http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=home ... »

so basically it comes out to about the same price and cheaper monthly service...so go figure



wow... t-mobile u.k. charges you to call customer service??? odd...
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Me2

Jan 24, 2006, 11:29 PM
TMO usa is owned by a german telecom. Vodafone owns many tmo properties globally
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mark0000

Jan 18, 2006, 10:40 AM
No company can afford to buy out contracts. If you look at the ARPU being between $40-$60 (If anyone has more exact numbers, please throw them in) then that's really not enough of a profit margin to throw $175 towards another carriers ETF. The only way that could happen would be if they dropped the phone subsidy (which they won't) and then you'd be in a 6 of one, half a dozen of the other situation; Do you take $175 for your ETF or $175 discount on the phone?

It's a nice thought, but it's not going to happen.
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mahoodlum

Jan 18, 2006, 11:13 AM
That is a valid point, and I understand that it will obviously cost a company more to actually purchase the contract and such, but the promotion or subsidy that we supposedly get, but actually don't cause we pay for it in the length of our contract, is not really costing us more but just costing us more up front. My thought is how the carriers would respond, obviously I would imagine companies like Verizon would automatically raise their etf to discourage the buyout, but if people are in contracts I don't think Verizon can actually raise that fee...granted they are allowed to change certain aspect of the contract I just don't think that would be one of them and if they did raise it, it would probably discourage new customers from joining. ...
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coowguy

Jan 21, 2006, 3:01 PM
AMP'd and T-Mobile are pissed at each other right now. Sue Swenson, an executive who used to work for T-Mobile, left T-Mobile. She claims it was for "family reasons." I later read an article that stated she was joining AMP'd to be the something like the vice president of Marketing. T-Mobile is breaking out the "no-compete" clause on her ass.
Causing serious friction...
That rep might have just been feeding you a line of bs.
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rev2_4

Jan 30, 2006, 2:30 PM
The idea of a service provider buying out a contract just to get a customer is so off the wall here...Nice thought is not going to happen the service provider losses there tail on the phone alone (that is why phones in America are carrier locked) i know it has happened in other countries but the consumer pays full retail for the handset that would never fly in America because Americans are cheap and we want something for nothing. I have been in the cellular industry for years and I think that rep that told you that was on crack to entice you to purchase from her/him i think that carriers might do that if we were willing to full msrp on the phone ($250-$1000) but i don't think the market would do that
Anyway
Have a good day
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