So I hear T-Mobile is about to deploy HSPA+ you know at least in theory this will compete with LTE. 21MBS it should be 4G and not 3G, plus I hear their is another advancement they can make with HSPA that could improve speed even more. I hope T-Mobile blows all the others out of the water. My theory on why AT&T isn't planning on going this route is because they don't have enough spectrum. Since 850 and 1900 can probably only serve as back haul for their network.
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ATT actually has plenty of spectrum in the 700mhz and they also own AWS spectrum as well. The reason for the jump is b/c LTE will be a significant upgrade to HSPA+ and since they have the spectrum and capital, it makes since for them to skip HSPA+. TMobile on the other hand are in need of spectrum and they have to play the GSM upgrade path out step by step until they purchase more spectrum.
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I forgot about them buying more spectrum my bad on that. From what I gather though HSPA+ is superior to LTE in terms of speed either way it looks like T-Mobile may be able to reach the top on speed. If so it is about time but they still have a lot of work to do in rural markets where they are still deploying GPRS.
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MennoJan 6, 2010, 1:30 AM
remember:
current 4g is basically the "first gen" of the technology. while HSPDA+ is pretty far down the upgrade path for 3g.
the strength of 4g is volume and speed potential. while HSPA+ might be able to keep up with LTE atm, this won't be the case in the future.
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Yeah but know one has built out an LTE network here on a commercial scale it gives T-Mobile a chance to get a good foot hold on data speed. I might be wrong and correct me if I am but I think HSPA+ is capable of greater speed then ev-do rev a.
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MennoJan 7, 2010, 12:54 AM
Yes it is, but reva is 3g technology. There are faster revisions of EVDO, and ones that allow data and voice at the same time, but instead of sink money into that upgrade path, verizon/sprint decided to jump straight to 4g.
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Yeah but it seems to me that Sprint is making a big mistake with choosing WIMAX for their 4G technology.And I wasn't aware their was another step for ev-do at-least not one that would be spectrum friendly.
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MennoJan 7, 2010, 3:09 PM
I highly doubt that wimax will be anywhere near the footprint as 4g will in a couple of years. It seems to be significantly more expensive to deploy, and more prone to signal blocks from things like buildings and terrain
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Well it seems that it doesn't have the popularity that LTE does I know three major wireless carriers are going with LTE.
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The main difference is that WIMAX is up and running now, it is available in many cities across the country. Every wireless carrier deploying LTE will do so market by market like Clear has. Clear/Sprint has a substantial lead in this. Also Clear has bandwidth that the others can only dream of. LTE has not been finalized yet and if it is like the UMTS fiasco you don't want to be first in the world to deploy it.
I sell Clear and it is as good as advertised. It won't penetrate buildings like a 700MHZ signal but higher frequencies are more data friendly. We look at Comcast as the competitor, not Verizon or AT&T. $45.00 per month for 2 mobile devices and unlimited usage is a pricepoint that is hard to beat, especially with the 3G devices at $4...
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I thought ComCast was selling wireless service through you guys to.
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willvJan 7, 2010, 2:54 PM
lg just used lte to get 100mb download speeds, and transition back to evdo. can hspa+ get 100mb?? that is a serious question and not sarcasm
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I've never heard of LTE getting that speedbut I'm not gonna deny it and though WIMAX is different I know it averages real world speeds of 6-10MBS even though I'm sure it is capable of much greater speed. I know all 4G is capable of greater speeds then 3G but in the short run I imagine that T-Mobile will be ahead of Verizon and Sprint on their speed at-least for the short haul. I would like to know what Sprint,Verizon,T-Mobile and AT&T avg on their speed. I was up in KC a few weeks ago and I was getting about 2MBS on T-Mobile.
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HSPA+ is still 3G because it's backward-compatible. You can use current 3G device with HSPA+ with maximum possible performance.
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MennoJan 12, 2010, 6:16 PM
actually you can't You can't take a 3g device and get HSPA+ speeds just because you tell it to. you might be able to get 3g with it, but not the fastest speeds the tower provides.
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willvJan 14, 2010, 1:24 PM
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