When is T-Mo Coming To My Town!?
So I realize the answer to this question is most likely "Never" but I currently have US Cellular, and although I love their service, I am a little bored with their phone selection. I love the idea of having a Fave 5 and you all have such a good phone selection for the younger generation, like the G1, Sidekicks, Sony 506, Dash, Razr 2, Shadow, and Blackberry Pearl Flip. I have a friend who drove an hour and a half away to subscribe to TMo with a Sidekick and it worked flawlessly off the Cellular One towers here but when CellOne transitioned to ATT, the arrangement supposedly stopped working. âšī¸ But anyway, T-Mo is too city/suburb oriented!!! Why not move a little bit further out into the mountains? lol. So will T-Mo ever come to my town. ...
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Not to get too specific, I live within short driving distance of Cumberland, MD.... which is in the Western part of the state. I'm not sure but I think T-Mobile sells their service as far west as Hagerstown (maybe). Any knowledge at all?
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Why not try Verizon?
They started there new Family and Friends Plan, you pick 5 if your on a single line, or 10 on a FamilyShare Plan.
Those number your pick, you can talk to for FREE.
Plus unlimited mobile to mobile, nights, weekends.
We have the Touch Pro, and are getting the Pearl Flip really really soon.
here are some new phone comming out soon...
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/12/verizons-to ... »
They started there new Family and Friends Plan, you pick 5 if your on a single line, or 10 on a FamilyShare Plan.
Those number your pick, you can talk to for FREE.
Plus unlimited mobile to mobile, nights, weekends.
We have the Touch Pro, and are getting the Pearl Flip really really soon.
here are some new phone comming out soon...
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/12/verizons-to ... »
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So i'd check out the website. www.t-mobile.com You can search your location or any other ones and check the coverage there.
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You should stop. VERIZON ISN'T OFFERED IN MY AREA EITHER!!! If I wanted Verizon I would have posted in the Verizon forum. The only thing I would buy from Verizon is the Storm or Omnia, but Verizon is, once again, not available where I live and honestly I would be more interested in T-Mobile..... but some people in my area have gone out of town to buy Verizon and can use their phones on the US Cellular network (as well as some native Verizon towers along the interstate). However, only one person I know has had TMobile around here and supposedly when Cell One turned into ATT they could no longer use their towers. It would be nice if more national carriers (other than ATT and Sprint who are already here). Still waiting for a solid answer her...
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Yes, and along with that Family and Friends Plan at Verizon they include free of charge the "Nickel and Dime me to Death" plan, and the "Sell Me a Crippled Phone" plan.
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And the "annoying guy with glasses stalking me" plan. The "I didn't get any overages, yet my bill is $100 more than it should be but nobody at customer service can explain it to me" plan.
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So to get back on topic, does anyone know anything about my area getting T-Mo? or maybe a work around allowing me to have T-Mo here.
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Didn't read all the posts so this may not help. đ¤
But what about TMO's Hotspot@home or one of their UMA phones?
But what about TMO's Hotspot@home or one of their UMA phones?
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so basically, if i am thinking correctly, that would help me at my house and... at my house. can't t-mo phones just roam off of my local at&t network?
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technically, yes they can. both are GSM. but just because they are the same technology doesn't mean that at&t will allow use of their towers, well all of them at least.
most likely what you're looking at will be predominantly the same coverage as at&t w/some minor differences. in my area i did the same, except w/helio that i knew was a cdma and would run off of sprint and verizon. but due to conflicts there were some areas that i had dead spots where a friend bearing either of those had coverage, and vice-versa.
i'm now leaving helio for T-mobile in fact, really just because they let me down by just thowing a new coat of paint on the ocean and trying to convince me that they've done me a favor.
my advice, if you really want to go t-mo, du...
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most likely what you're looking at will be predominantly the same coverage as at&t w/some minor differences. in my area i did the same, except w/helio that i knew was a cdma and would run off of sprint and verizon. but due to conflicts there were some areas that i had dead spots where a friend bearing either of those had coverage, and vice-versa.
i'm now leaving helio for T-mobile in fact, really just because they let me down by just thowing a new coat of paint on the ocean and trying to convince me that they've done me a favor.
my advice, if you really want to go t-mo, du...
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Just know unlike CDMA carriers GSM carriers do not let you roam in others when you are in your home area. So if your home area is say city a and you have no coverage with tmobile and att has perfect coverage in that area you will never roam on att regardless of your no service and how good att is. You must leave your local area before your phone is allowed to roam. And that area is pretty big.
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yes they do. its another way for the providers to get money, the end prize. when i worked for at&t in technical there was even info on our system explaining it so if we spoke to someone who had "roam" on their phone we could explain that that although they were roaming onto another carriers tower, they still were not being charged. unless of course they were on a cruise ship and they turned on their phone to check the time. in which case, they were most likely coming home to an outrageous international roaming bill. (for those that don't know it, even after you turn your phone back off, if it had connected to a tower in the carribean or wherever in international waters, even calls fwd to your vm are charged due to the fact the calls ping of...
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Many companies roam with other companies in coverage areas. Oh FYI its only 30 days in CA. it's a 14 day Buyer's remorse everywhere else depending on POP. (point of purchase).
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GSM does not please do more homework before you do it. I know for a fact Tmobile does not. My friend had them in SC before the merger with suncom and during. They wouldn't even let him merge after they bought suncom and cited that they do not allow roaming when your in your home network. My mom has ATT in NJ and she either has ATT or not service there also. CDMA verizon alltel and sprint does allow roaming in your home area.
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ok, even by just searching the forums here, you can find people that roam off of other GSM towers.
https://www.phonescoop.com/forums/forum.php?fm=m&ff= ... »
thats just one, when i worked w/at&t, we did tech for the NE, including NJ, and when cingular bought out at&t, there were many towers that stopped allowing calls off the network, due to migration issues. it happens. not all towers are shared, so yes, some times one may have a signal when another doesn't, that's providers for you, if they shared ALL the towers, how could one state better coverage than the other.
so, yes, do your homework, but know that GSM, just like CDMA, do allow roaming if an agreement has been met between the companies...
https://www.phonescoop.com/forums/forum.php?fm=m&ff= ... »
thats just one, when i worked w/at&t, we did tech for the NE, including NJ, and when cingular bought out at&t, there were many towers that stopped allowing calls off the network, due to migration issues. it happens. not all towers are shared, so yes, some times one may have a signal when another doesn't, that's providers for you, if they shared ALL the towers, how could one state better coverage than the other.
so, yes, do your homework, but know that GSM, just like CDMA, do allow roaming if an agreement has been met between the companies...
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DO PEOPLE READ before they reply? I siad in your home area. Once you leave your HOME area yes att and tmobile both roam. Pay attention before you respond and put your foot in your mouth.
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soooo, what you're saying, is that providers are going to put extra money into putting blocks to make sure that you can only go off of a competitors tower outside of a 50 sq mile (give or take) radius, in turn raising the chances for no signal w/in the area you will primarily be using the phone. and you're saying ONLY GSM does this?? i mean, why wouldn't it be industry wide? đ
maybe i finally found something that oklahoma isn't last in, because i know that at&t AND t mobile commonly share towers in this home area.
and if you're talking about roam coming up on your phone, that doesn't always happen. in fact, more often than not, you won't see roam when going off a competitors tower, because it leads to confusion and paranoid people w...
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maybe i finally found something that oklahoma isn't last in, because i know that at&t AND t mobile commonly share towers in this home area.
and if you're talking about roam coming up on your phone, that doesn't always happen. in fact, more often than not, you won't see roam when going off a competitors tower, because it leads to confusion and paranoid people w...
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Why do they do it because they have to pay when you roam. And GSM use a different PRL technology for roaming. Why would they want you to roam in an area you signed up to use your phone? Also you say it doesn't show roam on the phone? GSM shows what carrier so you would have to be an idiot if you have att and see tmobile on your screen and you don't know if your roaming. And if you are roaming on CDMA it will always show roaming. I have had phones since before you were in middle school. I have had them since 1992. I am pretty sure how they work. So I stand behind my facts. Find someone that will prove me wrong like a rep for tmobile or att that tells me they allow roaming in someones home market!
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well, to be honest, i was well out of middle school by 1992, and it was TDMA backe then. as far as cdma always showing roaming...wrong, i'm currently on a cdma network, and it never shows roaming, i do know when i roam off of certain networks (like us cellular), but thats only because i lose 3G on theirs and another one. i know this by talking to some friends i have that work for verizon, explaining the limitations some companies will place on roaming cells. yes, often to lower cost as well as giving the common person the thought of having poor svc. but this is truly beside the point.
and as far as GSM showing the carrier's tower you're using, well generally you are right on that, although it doesn't always, but i had received more than one...
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and as far as GSM showing the carrier's tower you're using, well generally you are right on that, although it doesn't always, but i had received more than one...
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This makes me laugh a little. It's always funny when someone said, " My mom has or My dad has". YOu know right then and there its a 12 yr old that is a tard. Please before you spout off about "do your research" maybe you should read stuff first. Tmobile AND Att consistantly use each other towers. With or without roaming showing on your phone. Sometimes it's just to "INCREASE" your signal in places where there are black outs or lower coverage areas not just in areas that aren't tmo areas. Point being said. We are all a big happy cell phone community with lease agreements and roaming agreements. Money is paid and spent. It all works out if the customer is happy with their service.
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Yeah this whole debate over roaming is a little ridiculous. First of all, I at least know that some GSM carriers do it because my friend drive an hour away to another city to buy T-Mobile when there is absolutely no coverage for T-Mobile here at home. She always had good service as she could run off of the Cellular One network, here.... at home... where she lives. However, apparently when Cellular One was acquired by AT&T in December of 2007, her phone would no longer pick up up service from the towers and she was forced to switch to AT&T. That is my reasoning for asking... if her phone stopped getting reception then will any T-Mobile phone get reception here now?
P.S. I do kinda get the other guys point though, as I have friends wh...
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Your friend drove an hour away and must have used a address other then her "home" in turn when she drove an hour back home she was home but not according to tmobile. You all all pretty funny though and I am done talking with ignorant people. My phone doesn't say roam either but a R shows up and some phones a triangle shows up. If you have verizon then it will say extended network. If you have alltel it will show romaing when you leave your home area even though you may still be on alltel's network.
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TDMA? all depends. Could have been analog. My first phone was a bag phone from Nynex. Phone company that used to be in the tristate area if you don't know.
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You just proved my point of your knowledge of this subject. TDMA is not Analog. It was the first Digital technology. Go back and do some research you are getting worse and worse.
I posted proof of my initial subject and if you want I can post proof you are wrong again.
I posted proof of my initial subject and if you want I can post proof you are wrong again.
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agreed, i was mistaken on TDMA, which was essentially directly after analog and of the course the building block of GSM (which is why CDMA is a dying technology and GSM is still evolving) but i, like others who have posted, still feel that you were incorrect w/your original post about GSM NOT allowing roaming in the home area. and if you're done w/talking to ignorant" people (who appears to be the majority), and finished w/you "my mom" analogies, then be done and leave...
not too difficult, even for you... the true cartman of this forum. đ¤Ŗ
not too difficult, even for you... the true cartman of this forum. đ¤Ŗ
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how can you argue with facts from their own websites? And CDMA Dying technoligy? Umm I don't think so since most major and small carriers use CDMA. It is better then GSM. But they both are dying as they both are going LTE. Next you will tell me LTE is GSM we had this debate on here over a year ago.
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ok, yes IN AMERICA there are several CDMA carriers, but do you wonder why the new storm comes w/a SIM card slot AND the GSM capability?? maybe because most of the world (including vodafone, the UK company that owns verizon) use GSM. now you are taking dying as if i mean in some way it'll be gone in the next year or so, no, but CDMA can't really improve to much more, unlike GSM (that came from TDMA) and will continue to evolve. when the current CDMA carriers reach the point that they can no longer push the capabilities of their current technology, they'll pretty much have to start from the ground up. maybe not literally, but pretty damn close, it's something that pretty much everyone in the business has known. in fact, since CDMA has just tru...
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please there are many ways to improve cdma. THere is even 4g CDMA but its to ezpensive and the carriers opted not to go that route. So please go back to some research. And the world is GSM because CDMA was once ilegal in Europe but CDMA is growing faster in the world then GSM today.
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đ¤Ŗ what, you're not going to argue your point that LTE isn't GSM. you've been disproved time and time again, so take your "ezpensive" 4g CDMA and keep believing in it and the tooth fairy. it's obvious we are not going to agree, the difference that i can see at this point is that i have backed up my argument with legitimate information, and i can continue to do so, because mine is a factual argument, not one based off of "he said, she said" nonsense. just take the knowledge that has been given to you, not only by myself, and grow with it.
or prove to me that CDMA is growing faster in the world today then GSM đ . if you can throw me that bone, i'll give you some credibility.
or prove to me that CDMA is growing faster in the world today then GSM đ . if you can throw me that bone, i'll give you some credibility.
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LTE is not GSM it was proven and ever rich said so but your about 2 years to late for the discussion in this forum. And CDMA is growing rapidly in the world. You have not proven anything to me. Just talking. Cite some references? And I will believe you. I have provided proof and if you want more like on CDMA and LTE I will be happy to provide it. But just search this forum and you can find all you need on LTE. I have established my credibility with users that have been here longer then a few months. I have been posting since 06.
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http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/21/verizon-du » mps-cdma-for-gsm-based-lte-in-4g-networks/
i had this link about 3 postings ago... didn't read it? try again. it's from engadget, go ahead.
oh, and from now on, try actually reading the posts, you would have seen this.
i had this link about 3 postings ago... didn't read it? try again. it's from engadget, go ahead.
oh, and from now on, try actually reading the posts, you would have seen this.
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http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/wireless/200 ... »
i'll just start w/this, for some reason the link to engadget's article on "verizon dumps CDMA for GSM based LTE in 4G networks," won't properly set in my post. maybe this one will,
http://digg.com/tech_news/Verizon_dumps_CDMA_for_GSM ... »
click the linked title and it will bring you to the engadget page.
that's just one of many sites, w/experts on the subject, writing articles about GSM BASED LTE.
i never questioned how long you've been posting, i've been on awhile myself, but when AT&T placed website restrictions i stopped, my previous acct was deleted due to inactivity. but, alas, tenure doesn't dictate your knowledge on a subject. you seem...
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i'll just start w/this, for some reason the link to engadget's article on "verizon dumps CDMA for GSM based LTE in 4G networks," won't properly set in my post. maybe this one will,
http://digg.com/tech_news/Verizon_dumps_CDMA_for_GSM ... »
click the linked title and it will bring you to the engadget page.
that's just one of many sites, w/experts on the subject, writing articles about GSM BASED LTE.
i never questioned how long you've been posting, i've been on awhile myself, but when AT&T placed website restrictions i stopped, my previous acct was deleted due to inactivity. but, alas, tenure doesn't dictate your knowledge on a subject. you seem...
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đ yeah, when i saw it, some site i got to by stumbleupon, i had to have it... reminds me of several of the missions my GI Joes were sent on back in the day, unfortunately many ended in some form of dismembermant(for the Joe, not a squirell if PETA is reading this...)
but to actually meet the master behind the mayhem, i am honored to be in your presence sir!
but to actually meet the master behind the mayhem, i am honored to be in your presence sir!
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I am not going to bring back the lte gsm debate. It was overdone. It is a convergance of the best of both worlds so to say. It is the GSM path for a part because GSM is at the end. Just like UMTS is CDMA like as its WCDMA. So ATT is deploying WCDMA. Not excatly CDMA but close.
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no, it's pretty much national on the 30 days. its advertised that way on the websites and in the 4 states i've lived (az, tx wa and ok) unless i just chose the 4 rogue states... hmmm, i don't know... see, what it is, ISN'T a cell phone return policy, but a contract term policy. now if you don't sign a contract to get the phone at a discounted price, then 2 wks would be about right.
per FCC regulations though, you have 30 days to test service, if not satisfied you can terminate said contract (which includes returning ALL equipment rcvd, undamaged) without incurring an ETF or be charged for said equipment.
and that is what i was referring to. check every cell company, it is fact, call 'em up.
again (just wanted to point this out to stop thi...
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per FCC regulations though, you have 30 days to test service, if not satisfied you can terminate said contract (which includes returning ALL equipment rcvd, undamaged) without incurring an ETF or be charged for said equipment.
and that is what i was referring to. check every cell company, it is fact, call 'em up.
again (just wanted to point this out to stop thi...
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