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Samsung Behold vs. T-Mobile G1

sunilsonia

Oct 30, 2008, 10:31 AM
Folks,

My upgrade eligibility has kicked in on 10/28/2008 and at the moment I am "up in the air" on my decision between upgrading to the T-Mobile G1 pending the arrival of the Samsung Behold T919, which I hear is quite similar to the Samsung Instinct that Sprint has available with the exception of maybe the TV feature that the Instinct users can access. By the way, my wife and I both have T-Mobile Shadow Phones at the moment and are still happy with them.

I have compiled a list of comparison attributes from what I know about each and have declared what in my mind seems to be the "advantage in favor of" decision.

1. T-Mobile G1 is Open Source allowing for further application expansion. However, at the current availability of Applic...
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robtheman

Oct 30, 2008, 11:59 AM
How about waiting until the Behold is launched so you can make your decision after looking at the phones?

The touch screen on the G1 is one of the better screens on the market. I'm not sure what makes you thinkg is "tan trummy." I have yet to have any problems with it.
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sunilsonia

Oct 30, 2008, 12:03 PM
robtheman said:
How about waiting until the Behold is launched so you can make your decision after looking at the phones?

The touch screen on the G1 is one of the better screens on the market. I'm not sure what makes you thinkg is "tan trummy." I have yet to have any problems with it.


Is the Behold for sure releasing on 11/10 though? On that basis, I could try out the G1 and give it 14 days to see if it works or not for me?

Thanks for the reply Robtheman.
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kyiske

Oct 30, 2008, 12:14 PM
As far as I've seen we are scheduled to launch this on the 10th. However I would agree and say to wait till then to test one of these guys out in store.
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robtheman

Oct 30, 2008, 12:28 PM
What's another two weeks? Seriously, just wait until the Behold shows up in the store before you make your decision. Samsung has some really nice touch screen phones, but it also has some terrible ones (like the Glyde). If that's a concern, wait until you can actually use one.
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sunilsonia

Oct 30, 2008, 2:14 PM
Thanks Rob for your insight but I am asking if there is a certainty as oppsoed to tentativeness surrounding the release date on that phone? This would help me in gauging my Buyer's Remorse possibility a little better to start it about 14 days out prior to the Behold's release this way I can directly exchange the phones on the same day.
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lancekalzas

Oct 30, 2008, 2:47 PM
November 10th is pretty certain. T-Mobile does not often delay handset launches this close to the date.
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sunilsonia

Oct 30, 2008, 3:08 PM
Thank you Lancekalzas. You sure this may not be a first (for delays)? I'm praying it's not so that my decision is kind of eased a little.

Appreciate the feedback nevertheless.
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robtheman

Oct 31, 2008, 10:25 AM
Do you know about the $10 restocking fee? It's going to cost you $10 to exchange the phone if you want to.
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sunilsonia

Oct 31, 2008, 11:19 AM
robtheman said:
Do you know about the $10 restocking fee? It's going to cost you $10 to exchange the phone if you want to.


Does that apply if you are exchanging for a different phone during the buyer's remorse? I have returned an upgrade once that I did not like in the past and was never charged this restocking fee back in 2005. This leads me to ask how long this restocking fee has been around with T-Mobile?
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tmob08

Oct 31, 2008, 4:12 PM
the restocking fee is only been around for a month if not less... its really new
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tellenerd

Oct 30, 2008, 8:28 PM
USB interface
Vibrating alert
Video capture and playback
EDGE high speed data
GPRS
Speakerphone
Speed dial
Stereo
Real Web browsing
3G capable
5 megapixel camera with flash
Address book
Real Web browsing
Calculator
Calendar
Bluetooth connectivity
Sync with PC
Task list
Video messaging
Voice dialing
Wallpaper
myFaves capable - introducing the new Wave Hello feature allowing customers to send Waves, Kisses and Hugs via MMS to their myFaves contacts.
t-zones
Alarm clock
Games
Instant messaging
MegaTones and HiFi ringers
Memory card slot
Mobile backup
Music and video player
Phone book
Photo caller ID
Picture messaging
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sunilsonia

Oct 31, 2008, 11:36 AM
tellenerd said:
USB interface
Vibrating alert
Video capture and playback
EDGE high speed data
GPRS
Speakerphone
Speed dial
Stereo
Real Web browsing
3G capable
5 megapixel camera with flash
Address book
Real Web browsing
Calculator
Calendar
Bluetooth connectivity
Sync with PC
Task list
Video messaging
Voice dialing
Wallpaper
myFaves capable - introducing the new Wave Hello feature allowing customers to send Waves, Kisses and Hugs via MMS to their myFaves contacts.
t-zones
Alarm clock
Games
Instant messaging
MegaTones and HiFi ringers
Memory card slot
Mobile backup
Music and video player
Phone book
Photo caller ID
Picture messaging



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tellenerd

Oct 31, 2008, 12:14 PM
sunilsonia said:
Above in your post, you mentioned Stereo. did you mean to say Stereo Bluetooth or something else?


Yes stereo Bluetooth sorry about that.

sunilsonia said:
Memory Card Slot - Rumor is that this will take up to 16 GB whereas the G1 can only take 8 GB. Is this correct?


well i have recently discovered that the G1 actually takes up to a 16G also.

sunilsonia said:
You mentioned T-Zones. Is this supposed to be the new upcoming Web2Go service add-ons for the internet usage that T-Mobile is releasing possibly in tandem with this phone?


so far what i've read web2go and t-zones are to different things. it would be sill...
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tmob08

Oct 31, 2008, 4:16 PM
oh and rumor has it that all data features are going to be raised soon to match the g1 data prices so if thats holding you back it might not matter soon. also there is a 10 dollar restocking fee its really new...about a month ago they started doing it
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Nehemiah7

Nov 1, 2008, 9:57 AM
The data plan on the G1 is way over priced and over-rated.

Uh its the same thing they just forcing you to get SMS plan... 25 plus 400 messeges

35 unlimited same thing, what are you talking about..
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h_aguilar84

Nov 3, 2008, 9:48 AM
The rumor is that BlackBerry/Windows Mobile phones will match the same data rates as the G1 ($25 for web + 400 MSG, $35 for web + Unlimited MSG). It's not a bad deal at all and the rumor also has it that it includes access to Wi-Fi hotspots. Looking at AT&T's bundle rates it's $50 for web + unlimited MSG.
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tellenerd

Nov 22, 2008, 7:00 PM
yup as of yesterday.. all data plans are just like the g1

400txt unlmtd web 24.99
unlmtd web and txt 34.99
nulmtd web 24.99

even the sidekick plan is high like that..

they did it because people want the g1 but wont get it and get the sidekick instead because of cheaper plan NOT ANY MORE
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mingkee

Oct 30, 2008, 9:14 PM
I'd go for Behold as well
because it can be used as modem, while G1 can't this time
if you plan to tether, any data service charge you either $25 or $35 with 10GB limit
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zx100

Oct 31, 2008, 9:07 PM
i've played with both and decided to pass on both.

the g1 is too bulky and missing a few things that are important to me.

the behold has pages of problems that tmo knows about and is still launching the phone. the touchwiz interface is very nice and quite different from the instinct. the widgets are easy to move around and use. the phone eats up the battery too fast, the camera is very slow .. i mean very slow. in bright sunlight the screen is near impossible to view.

in january the blackberry curve 2 will be launched i am waiting for that device.
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vzbling

Nov 2, 2008, 7:41 PM
Ill just put it this way.......the samsung behold would have 2 have the best touchscreen and web browser on the market 2 outdue the g1 in this regard. Right now the G1 and the Iphone stand alone in this area
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sunilsonia

Nov 3, 2008, 2:13 PM
sunilsonia said:
Folks,

My upgrade eligibility has kicked in on 10/28/2008 and at the moment I am "up in the air" on my decision between upgrading to the T-Mobile G1 pending the arrival of the Samsung Behold T919, which I hear is quite similar to the Samsung Instinct that Sprint has available with the exception of maybe the TV feature that the Instinct users can access. By the way, my wife and I both have T-Mobile Shadow Phones at the moment and are still happy with them.

I have compiled a list of comparison attributes from what I know about each and have declared what in my mind seems to be the "advantage in favor of" decision.

1. T-Mobile G1 is Open Source allowing for further application expansion. However,
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Tmo Slave

Nov 3, 2008, 6:41 PM
You have to realize the phone has been out less than a month and no one (developers included) have had the phone. You can only do so much with the Android emulator. Plus on top of that google is not allowing developers to charge for apps until the first of the year.

The phone can only expand and grow as it matures. Everything on the phone can be changed, so a G1 6 months from now could look completely different than one from now.

The behold will be the same 6 months from now so you have to ask yourself, if there is something missing from the G1 can you live without it until a developer releases it?
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Tmo Slave

Nov 3, 2008, 6:47 PM
Web2go is Tzones 2.0 so it will not have a full HTML web browser in it. And you will not be able to use the T-Zones proxy with the G1. T-mobile is checking this and will send you a text telling you that you need the G1 data or they will turn off the data on the phone all together.

The internet data plan for the G1 and other data phones is full web browsing. Pages will load like they do on your home computer. This will be more expensive because you have expanded capabilities that you don't get with Web2go.

Yes the data plans are going to be changed to be along the same lines as the G1 data with txt and data. Most people though are already using text and data so it won't effect very many people.
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dinosaur101

Nov 4, 2008, 10:14 AM
This is my impression of the G1

I bought the G1 phone 10/25. I find the design really unweildly and overall the functionally is not crisp the screen movement is sometime quite slow the ball movement must be quite precise to use it and the screen scroll functions are not fluid.
I read someone else saying this phone having great touch screen functionality I don't know anyone with a phone that has touch screen other than the Iphone and its not close to it.
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Tmo Slave

Nov 5, 2008, 7:03 PM
The touch screen on the phone is amazing and is just as good if not better than the iphone. Obvoiously you didn't read any of the reviews of the phone because everyone was saying how amazing the screen is.
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sunilsonia

Nov 4, 2008, 12:11 PM
sunilsonia said:
Folks,

My upgrade eligibility has kicked in on 10/28/2008 and at the moment I am "up in the air" on my decision between upgrading to the T-Mobile G1 pending the arrival of the Samsung Behold T919, which I hear is quite similar to the Samsung Instinct that Sprint has available with the exception of maybe the TV feature that the Instinct users can access. By the way, my wife and I both have T-Mobile Shadow Phones at the moment and are still happy with them.

I have compiled a list of comparison attributes from what I know about each and have declared what in my mind seems to be the "advantage in favor of" decision.

1. T-Mobile G1 is Open Source allowing for further application expansion. However,
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sunilsonia

Nov 5, 2008, 4:55 PM
I've recently discovered that my G1 has an older Release of the G1 Firmware (TC4-RC19, which is the older release vs. TC4-RC29, which is the newer release). Based upon my research on forums, other G1 users have reported a better experience from performance and behavioral perspectives (e.g. - better battery life, Browser Security is better, etc). What completely frustrates the crap out of me is that T-Mobile (and Google) are the controlling parties to provide these as OTA Updates. I am aware that there are ways to force the update with the use of a Micro SD Card but from my experience last night, it failed, as in none of the steps worked as documented. I have had my phone since 10/31/2008 and have not received even a single update as yet ...
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trw1104

Nov 5, 2008, 5:27 PM
What phone am i supposed to get if everyone has nothing to say but bad things about the G1 and the behold. T-mobile has the best plans out there and its like your telling me they have nothing but bad phones. I'm seriously thinking about just forking out the money and switching to Cingular and getting the iphone. Which is it the G1 or the Behold which is better. and when will they start advertising the Behold. It supposedly comes out the 10th and everyone is hush hush about the phone. T-mobile needs to get to advertising 🤨
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sunilsonia

Nov 5, 2008, 6:14 PM
trw1104 said:
What phone am i supposed to get if everyone has nothing to say but bad things about the G1 and the behold. T-mobile has the best plans out there and its like your telling me they have nothing but bad phones. I'm seriously thinking about just forking out the money and switching to Cingular and getting the iphone. Which is it the G1 or the Behold which is better. and when will they start advertising the Behold. It supposedly comes out the 10th and everyone is hush hush about the phone. T-mobile needs to get to advertising 🤨



For the $$$ forked out for the G1, it's subpar IMHO from having used it from 10/31/2008 till date. I mean what is the fudgin' point of having voice dial not work over a...
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Tmo Slave

Nov 5, 2008, 6:56 PM
Not everyone has bad things to say about the G1. The people who love the G1 are too busy using it and having a great time. The people that are posting on here are the whiney little brats who have nothing better to do but complain how the phone is not perfect. These people will never be happy with a phone and will complain about every little thing.

The G1 is a great phone and the behold is shaping up to be awesome as well.
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mingkee

Nov 5, 2008, 9:32 PM
I'd prefer Tocco/Behold over G1, though I am doubtful with Samsung
1. it should have tethering/PAM support out of the box (both USB and bt)
2. can keep my current data service

but I don't really like full touchscreen
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sunilsonia

Nov 6, 2008, 9:11 PM
Tmo Slave said:
Not everyone has bad things to say about the G1. The people who love the G1 are too busy using it and having a great time. The people that are posting on here are the whiney little brats who have nothing better to do but complain how the phone is not perfect. These people will never be happy with a phone and will complain about every little thing.

The G1 is a great phone and the behold is shaping up to be awesome as well.


Tmo Slave,

Maybe others b*tch and whine and complain about stuff, i'll not discredit you for your opinion here. BUT, I'd like to take the opportunity to separate myself from the pack here by saying all of what I've been saying is purely feedback based on phone u...
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Tmo Slave

Nov 8, 2008, 1:15 PM
First let me respond to the firmware issue. T-Mobile doesn't release the firmware update to all phones at the same time. They roll it out in groups. You also have to understand that there have been 3 updates so far. The 3 different updates were infact the 3 different dates for each of the updates. Just because you haven't received probably means you will get the lates one and skip the old ones.

Now on to the phone itself. Its fine if you do not like the phone, its not for everyone. But I wouldn't base my judgement on the people here on phonescoop. Most seem to be Sprint fanboys(Diamondpro) or will never be happy with their phone.

The Behold is a decent phone, but I believe it is inferior to the G1 in many ways.
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sunilsonia

Nov 12, 2008, 11:44 AM
Tmo Slave said:
First let me respond to the firmware issue. T-Mobile doesn't release the firmware update to all phones at the same time. They roll it out in groups. You also have to understand that there have been 3 updates so far. The 3 different updates were infact the 3 different dates for each of the updates. Just because you haven't received probably means you will get the lates one and skip the old ones.

Now on to the phone itself. Its fine if you do not like the phone, its not for everyone. But I wouldn't base my judgement on the people here on phonescoop. Most seem to be Sprint fanboys(Diamondpro) or will never be happy with their phone.

The Behold is a decent phone, but I believe it is inferior to t
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Timobile

Nov 19, 2008, 1:12 PM
2nd point is completly wrong...the behold has a lag on the shutter speed...has a more magapixels but not a better camera

3rd point touchscreen on the behold is nowhere near as good


5th point The data plan on the G1 is 34.99 for unlimited Int/email and text the same price as all the other smartphones HTC/Blackberry the behold is only 10 dollars a month if you don't need text
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T-Monster

Nov 19, 2008, 2:33 PM
What are you smoking? The data plans for all internet phones besides the Shadow are the same as the G1. The Web2Go is for "phone first" phones. The $9.99 and $19.99 dataplans include a max of 100MB of data that caps at $15 overage. A blackberry uses that much when it checks 5 web pages or loads e-mail for a day.

If your going to get an internet phone, get the whole internet. Otherwise your getting a big phone for nothing
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tuxedo_rage

Jan 15, 2009, 11:20 AM
it really doesnt matter about the features, from wut i see no matter what ppl say usually guys get the g1 and the chick gets the behold...idk why ive had so many customers..couples to be exact come in looking for these devices and its always the same way...
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robtheman

Jan 16, 2009, 1:15 PM
Girls need something that's fashionable and looks good. Guys are more interested in what's under the hood.
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shindig

Jan 15, 2009, 7:48 PM
I would go with anything but the G1 cause it was ranked number 1 in top 9 tech flops for 2008 on money.cnn.com

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/fortune/0810/gal ... »

thats the link if you want to check it out
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shindig

Jan 15, 2009, 7:52 PM
it was also ranked number 6 on switched.com

http://www.switched.com/2008/12/31/top-tech-flops-of ... »

again here is the link, and the Blackberry storm was ranked number 9, and I totally agree with both results
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