I saw it in Hot Topics this morning. Not sure when it takes affect (sometime in August, I believe). And I agree, the TDMA network needs to die. For the love of god, just die! TDMA customers cause more trouble than I can even describe. 👿

Yeah, it's the customers and not the company 🤣

Damn those customers, whom without, you would not be employed.

Actually, I'm pretty sure if we lost every single one of our TDMA customers then the company would still be doing just fine. I seriously doubt that Cingular depends on the revenue of the TDMA plans that pay between $5-$10 a month to keep the employees it has.

Geez, if I didn't know any better, I'd say you have a crush on Nikki AND Cingular by the way you try and bring both of them down at every turn. What a sad, sad life you have. 😢

I think Cingular does a good enough job of bringing themselves down.

It's that whole mentality of blaming customers instead of recognizing flaws within your organization.

Oh no, trust me, I notice the flaws in my organization. I am not only an employee of Cingular, but also a customer (customer first, then jusy happened to land a job w/ them in a call center). I realize that Cingualr isn;t the best, but neither is any other company. But having worked with the customers we have I have noticed that, like all other industries, most customers are complete idiots. This is not the fault of any of the companies, but the fault of the customers. 99% of the world is stupid, and they all buy stuff, so we have to deal with them; however this does not mean that every problem is the company's fault, most of the problems are caused by customers because of their stupidity. Once again, sadly, we have to deal with them a...
(continues)

I think you are sadly mistaken.

Its gonna go into effect sooner than ya think, Mid july, and I cant wait to see the calls about this one.

MistaBlue1914 said:
Its gonna go into effect sooner than ya think, Mid july, and I cant wait to see the calls about this one.

It took effect 7/5/06 😕

What market is that? Because in my market, 35, it hasn't gone into effect, and there's been no notification that something like this is pending.

It would be nice if cingular lowered prices for once to entice new customers. But what is weird is that sprint and t-mobile who seem to give the boat away have the highest ARPU of the carriers.

In my market the new prices start July 23 ~ We got the new brochures yesterday.

What about the nights and weekends at 7?

yup, that too

Where is this? If this is going to happen in my region I know about it pretty early and I have not heard a thing.

it may not be in your market but it will probably happen in the future if it is successfully implemented in the markets affected now

but you may want to talk to your RAE to see if he knows anything about this

Which markets are effected now.

I just got the new collateral in my store (I'm in Olympia WA) and it's on the new brochures. $8.99 for Nights at 7pm..also 411 calls are $1.80 now.

I guess that means we can't call it 7-7-7 anymore?

Also thanks to my RAE for the the heads up..(sarcasm)

I know for sure that Washington DC-Baltimore will be affected

I don't think Dan Frequents this forum much.

I just got that today. Tex, you should be getting soon. I'm in Lubbock too. Looks like we're all screwed on this one. Mine says effective July 23rd. Let the b!tching commence.

mostly the NE markets from what I've seen

All I have to say to DA is GOOGLE!

texaswireless said:
All I have to say to DA is GOOGLE!

um. shouldn't that be googl ??? 😎

haha, true.

Yeah, she has not heard that it is being done in the Central Region. She also has heard, as have I many times in the past, that in select markets they are making price adjustments, up or down, to test pricing options.

You may not post garbage but when you make a generalized post about a topic don't be surprised when you get questioned. Cingular is still a very regional company on certain thngs. Priebe and Sitton can do as they choose on many items (don't remember the third regional President's name, but I am sure Pooky will tell us).

Oh, and existing customers will get to keep their existing pricing. Cingular has raised, lowered and changed many things in the past and every time the old feature remains.

Sorry Tex that's incorrect.

**Existing customers who have the 7-7-7 feature on their account will also be charged this new amount starting 8/18/06. There will not be any “grand fathered” 7-7-7 users. This does not affect any of the legacy blue customers who still have blue plans with Early Evenings as part of the plan.**

Cut directly out on an email.

Floyd said:
Sorry Tex that's incorrect.

**Existing customers who have the 7-7-7 feature on their account will also be charged this new amount starting 8/18/06. There will not be any “grand fathered” 7-7-7 users. This does not affect any of the legacy blue customers who still have blue plans with Early Evenings as part of the plan.**

Cut directly out on an email.

👀

1st the $1.99 warranty now this! fick that i hope this doesnt effect my market.

Can you forward to me that email?

Texaswireless
Have you read this on a Cingular site or on any Cingular job aid? I think you need to move this type of post to the rumors forum because so far it is completely without basis.

Gee, you would think you would be capable of heeding your own advice... unless you are a hypoc...

Do you have that on cut and paste?

To date NO ONE has been able to produce this on Cingular's site (internal or external) or via email.

If it is so readily available to everyone why is no one able to find it?

Denial ain't a river in Egypt.

Another one. Losers who have nothing better to do. I have outlasted all of you so far and will with you too. You will give up eventually and find someone else to pester (or maybe just a new porn DVD)

That's fine and grand. Congratulations should you succeed in your lofty goals since I won't be keeping score and I won't know the outcome.

This place needs people like you I guess to accuse others of rumors, bad info, and criticize them for posting so you can post your own rumors and bad info.

Outlasting losers on a messageboard must make you proud. 🤣

I'd listen to tex over ANYONE else in this forum, and this is said after I've perused this forum on a DAILY basis for the past two years since I've been employed by cingular wireless.

Tex is the most intelligent, respectful, and knowledgable person on these forums, and I highly value anything he states.

You, however, temerityboy, I've only seen you on here posting on this topic. And your posts have been so insipid that I don't even find it worth my bother to view your post history to see if you have any other posts on any other topics.

Get a life, and realize sooner than later that Tex owns these forums.

🤣

I appreciate your reply.

Anytime, Tex.

Just trying to back up the legitimate posters here to the best of my abilities.

A legitimate poster which you literally define.

Stay true, Tex.

I have the email from my RAE. Give me your email address and I will send it to you. Oh and BTW, I am an indirect sales agent in market 4 (Orlando).

Dres

Done,

Thanks in advance

I just sent it. Let me know if you received it.

Dres

Got it, Thanks

temerityboy said:
🤣

Cingular must be struggling to pay for things if they have to raise the rate on basic services like that.

Those two hours can make a big deal for people with active lives.

but they can't get early nights with verizon or tmobile.

What's your point? Sprint charges 5 bucks for it.

temerityboy said:
What's your point? Sprint charges 5 bucks for it.

you obviously can't keep up with your own post.

🤣

wouldnt it depend on whether the soc cod is defferent or not. if its a new soc code then there would be no change. further more its illegal to charge some one a higher rate without informing them unless its on a promo price such as free RA for a month.

is it really? i wasn't aware of such a law... has it been used against the cable companies

Cable is none contractual. its month to month.

You could say the same for features. This is what I meant when I said they were different from the rate plan.

I see what you mean but if you look at the roll out of the new media works, people weren't auto transfered to the 14.99 plan. rather cingular kept them where they were and left it up to cust. to figure it out. granted you could argue that cingular is in it for the cash and they would only make the effort if it made them more rather than a 5 dollar loss. I suppose this will be a wait and see!

Everyone is going to get rolled into new plans, supposedly by aug. 18th, they arent going to allow anyone to grandfather in their 7 dollar feature ☹️

Hey sangyup81, just wanted to appologize, got an email from my rep about this and you were correct on the none grandfathering. sorry about the disbelief and thanks for keeping me up to date. 🤭

I'm not trying to argue i'm just saying that the most likely thing to occur will be the generation of a new soc code to replace the old ones. like with the new media basics and works. You will only have the new options when adding features and customers with the old soc codes will lose them if they remove them.

Ive for one have been looking at other carriers becuase Cingular keeps raising my prices like its gas. You would think that will competition it would go down but I guess not.

Besides the aforementioned early nights price hike, what other prices has Cingular raised on you?

Its not so much about raising the prices but the way Cingualr goes about it so people like you dont have a clue. A year back I had 600min for 39.99 so you would think I could go to 450min for a lesser price, but NOOOO Cingular lowered the minutes for the same price. Theyre good at what they do. Thankyou. And yes I do believe Cingular is always watching Verizon to see how they make more money and then institutes it as one of their policies.

was the 600 minute plan national or regional? did your 600 minute plan have free mobile to mobile?

Neither does that make a difference. I feel that there should be more plans available and Cingular knows this. I have 1/2 year left and if things dont change im out.

Im not trying to be argumentative, but it does indeed make a difference! Unlimited calling to 50+ million people and absolutely no roaming charges anywhere in the US is why the same amount of money got you "less" minutes, when in fact, you're getting more for your money!

Regional and no mobile 2 mobile. I still feel i should pay less for 450min.

Exactly what prices have been raised on you?

Not as much as Cingular hates it's employees.

... one job I have not missed

That is something I can completely 2nd!! I worked for a whole 2 months for a Cingular Authorized Dealer. What a crock that was! They didn't give a hoot one way or the other about their employees. Maybe this was just a bad experience from one of their authorized dealers, but a really good friend of mine works at the Cingular call center close to where I live. He has epilepsy, and had a really bad couple days with constant seizures. With all his sick/vacation time he had accumulated, they fired him anyways! He ended up taking legal action, and got his job back, but as a supervisor instead of a CSR. Now, I've never worked in a call center, but my experience with Cingular's call center is that the supervisors aren't any better than the C...
(continues)

And you think working at a verizon call center is any better? My step sister worked there and absolutely hated it. One day there was a foot of snow on the ground, a bad accident and she was 15 minutes late. They took the late people into a room and threatened to fire them. Now what kind of place is that. The only reason they seem happy is because there is someone next to them at all times holding a gun to their heads telling them to act happy.

Okay, I guess I should explain further for you. Case and Point... Customer came to us from Cingular. She went to cingular to upgrade her son's phone, and that is when she was notified that her account was one that was going to be cancelled due to the new cingular BS of cancelling accounts that use their phones mostly out of the cingular network. Her son goes to school out of this area, and therefore he uses his phone mostly on non-cingular towers. Without wasting any time at all, she walked acrossed the street to us. Maybe it's not directly related to the nights or data plan increases, but irregardless we appreciate cingular's stupidity and are enjoying the boost in our paychecks!!!

there's nothing stupid about that

her son is causing cingular to lose money

its the same thing as insurance companies kicking you out

now we'll get to see if verizon will have the same issue

clr7181 said:
Okay, I guess I should explain further for you. Case and Point... Customer came to us from Cingular. She went to cingular to upgrade her son's phone, and that is when she was notified that her account was one that was going to be cancelled due to the new cingular BS of cancelling accounts that use their phones mostly out of the cingular network. Her son goes to school out of this area, and therefore he uses his phone mostly on non-cingular towers. Without wasting any time at all, she walked acrossed the street to us. Maybe it's not directly related to the nights or data plan increases, but irregardless we appreciate cingular's stupidity and are enjoying the boost in our paychecks!!!

I ...
(continues)

Hmm.... If you say that's true... then why is it that we carry a line on our account with Verizon that is always in extended coverage? Has been for the last 3 years, and for some reason, that line has never been cancelled, nor have we ever received anything stating it would be. And when I set up the account my regional manager informed me that as long as I put in where the primary place of usage would be, and we were paying the correct tax rate for that area, we would NOT have any issues.

My mother and father who have Cingular, travel a lot, so therefore there is a lot of calls made out of the Cingular Network as well..and they're getting cancelled. Cingular calls their network "All-Over". Well if they were THAT "All Over", they woul...
(continues)

Read the Verizon contract and then read the Cingular contract. Verizon isn't enforcing as strictly for God knows what reason but they still have the same policy.

My guess is that Verizon gets better deals from Alltel and US Cellular than Cingular gets from Edge, Dobson, and those other really, really small carriers.

Now that I think about it, Verizon's roamers do tend to be bigger companies that would be more willing to give Verizon better rates.