well both tmobile and cingular are currently seen a shortage of those dammed phones.. that shouldnt be an excuse to raise the prices to the highest bidder!! ahh memories of the houston gas gougin incident.. dont you just love capitalism??? 🙄

Phones = luxury
Gas = necessity

Shortage on a luxury item should raise the price...

Not really... how about the price of cable/dsl internet went up 500% overnight.. u either had to pay of get off the net... is that fair?

then again, gas isn't a necessity... you could ride a bike, catch a cab or bus..

it's fair because that means there's not enough for everyone and some people need to get off or else the whole system will crash

i know we're used to thinking individualistically here but if you think about the big picture, you'll see why things are the way they are

only some agents raised the prices, corp stores didn't even think of touching the prices. Are you saying cingular should riase prices on a backordered phone? If so, when do they lower the price back down? after a week of steady supply??

That just doesn't make sense.

well thats not fair because corp stores always have priority when it comes to inventory

but corp stores would have raised prices if they were allowed to and operated more independently like the agent stores do

it's the invisible hand of supply and demand

slow dowm tex. i was laughing at the dude that said the customer was a sucker.

thats why my response was 🤣 unless after taxes. because after taxes where i live its about what that guy paid for his rokr outright.

so again 🤣 unless after taxes.

I didn't direct my post to you.

🤭 SORRY!!!!

I want to sell one for a grand. Too bad no one will pay that for it... 😡

Did the customer buy the phone?

TenMidgits said:

Cellular Dude said:


If I make $140.00 profit on an activation, why would I sell a phone for less profit than what I would make on an activation?

I don't know. Ask radio Shack, Wal Mart, Best Buy. They seem to be able to do it.

Because they are chain stores and do it in bulk sales, and those chains sell more carriers then other locations, they buy nokia for T-MO,Cingular etc.., and motorola for Nextel,T-Mo, cingular etc... so they get better discount from manufacturers, so that increases their profit even by lowering commsion sales price.

the average mom and pop store can't afford to match wal-mart, radio shack etc.. THATS WHY!!!!

we just got a shipment in. i sell them for 249.99 in VA direct retail store.

You do, and thats great, but what i was referring to was the person's suggestion of buying them online through the online storez.

You know as well as onyone, thats stores generally don't match the offer online, the same way care does not, and in this case i don't want to see someone do that then call in upset over it, thats all.good to know you have them in the store so someone in ur area can get one if need be.

Someone needs to tell Cingular that, because I've done it with 3 phones, including when the RAZR was 199.99 and have yet to hear a beep out of Cingular.

the phone retails in my market for 249.99 too.. isn't that national?

so even if he gets it with a go phone, it doesn't matter becuase he already paid full price for the phone.

but it does constitute fraud because he signed up for service he had no intention of keeping.

O yea, we match the online prices 🙂

(this post is friendly, not bashing)
(don't kill me lol)

it's not fraud, it's pay as you go... you just don't go very far.

there is no commitment to continue to use the phone.

No... it's considered fraud. Cingular reports that as an activation to it's investors, even though it's not a lasting activation. Why do u think most phones are the normal price, even if you purchasing a go phone. 2 people were fired in my market (who I know personally) for this exact same thing. I feel sorry for you because you have to resort to this to get your monthly quota.

Monthly Quota? You think I work for Cingular I assume... You thought wrong. I do not and have never worked for Cingular or any other cellular phone service.

By the way, if you think it's fraud, read the Terms and Conditions (like I did) and back up your thoughts. You are wrong.

Ok well regardless, your still paying full price for the phone. it's 249.99 on the website for go phone or retail price.... so what are you saving by activating it on a go phone?? 🙄

I know, aint that a *itch? With the GO Phone crap the company that sell it will make $60 back if they meet the 6 month vesting period so they can sell it below $270. If they stop payment, that company's just lost $20. Good business... I'm glad I work for an agent instead of a company that thinks like that.

That's not right.. THe myworlphone.com comes automatically UNLOCKED with UNBRANDED software... it's a buy because you get the following when you buy the black razr:

Phone
Elbow adapter
battery
Back
Data Cable
Version 3.0 Phonetools
OEM USB Headset
Home Charger
User Manuals


That's more than you would get if you bought from Cingular or anyone else.

The only downfall is they charge you 35 dollars shipping and handling... However, for $250 bucks, all of that is worth the price in my opinion and so do a few of my friends who have bought them.

Also, it does have full Manufacturers Warranty from Motorola. It doesn't void your warranty when you unlock a locked phone. Becuase if that was the case Cingular nor Motorola Would ...
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Well getting a phone unlocked does void thewarranty, its locked not by the manufacturer, but by the carrier woh the manufascturer locks it on their behalf, thats why when you unlock it it asked for a subsidy unlock code.

The carrier subsidizes the phone cost thats why the carrier sells it for discount.The warranty does get voided, the difference is that since its not the carriers warranty- you get no dispute, you can and customers have fought with the manufacturer.Thats why you can them onthe internet.

Whether you belive it or not, thats your choice, i just know that from talking to manufacturer with conferencing customer they say point blank it voids warranty since you are changing the software and unlocking it.

We shouldn't confuse XBM with Motorola Warranty. Buy a phone at myworldphone.com and you obviously can't use Cingular XBM but you could still go direct to Motorola within your first year

sangyup81 said:
We shouldn't confuse XBM with Motorola Warranty. Buy a phone at myworldphone.com and you obviously can't use Cingular XBM but you could still go direct to Motorola within your first year

I don't even try to seperate the two.Trying to do that just throws gas on the fire.The average customer thinks the warranty is on the carrier not the manufacturer, and when you try to tell them the difference they take it as shifting responsibility, 9 out of 10 times they yell at the rep.

Also the ones who do understand wanted to be compensated because they have to send the phone to be repaired and don't want to temp. turn it off, but just don't want to pay for it either.

thats why you give them the number for XBM anyway

usually they just exchange it anyway

as long as the IMEI is registered that is