texaswireless said:
So the fact that it is WRITTEN in the manufacturers manuals that aftermarket accessories may damage phones and void warranties means nothing huh?

I have never in 8 years had any phone fail due to any non phone branded accessory attached to it. Scare tactics are the best selling device for any product. Many people buy into the fear factor. I don't. I had two phones replaced and was never asked for a list of accessories and places of purchase.

You make me laugh. Typical sales drivel

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texaswireless said:
So the fact that it is WRITTEN in the manufacturers manuals that aftermarket accessories may damage phones and void warranties means nothing huh?

I have never in 8 years had any phone fail due to any non phone branded accessory attached to it. Scare tactics are the best selling device for any product. Many people buy into the fear factor. I don't. I had two phones replaced and was never asked for a list of accessories and places of purchase.

You make me laugh. Typical sales drivel

I challange any customer to chime in and claim they could not get a replacement phone becasue they did not use a branded accessory. I would love to see ...
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When have I said buy higher priced accessories just because they are higher priced? When have I said you must buy OEM because AM will void your warranty. YOU brought that up as a spin because you couldn't answer my questions. You brought it up as sales spin when in fact it is a manufacturer issue across MANY DIFFERENT industries.

If you are too stupid to understand that AM comes in many different quality levels then I don't know what to say. I have samples of cheap AM in my store so customers can see and feel the difference of why my accessories are more than the local truck stop. And if they buy multiple accessories my prices are lower than Best Buy and almost as cheap as Wal-Mart with a longer warranty.

texaswireless said:
When have I said buy higher priced accessories just because they are higher priced? When have I said you must buy OEM because AM will void your warranty. YOU brought that up as a spin because you couldn't answer my questions. You brought it up as sales spin when in fact it is a manufacturer issue across MANY DIFFERENT industries.

If you are too stupid to understand that AM comes in many different quality levels then I don't know what to say. I have samples of cheap AM in my store so customers can see and feel the difference of why my accessories are more than the local truck stop. And if they buy multiple accessories my prices are lower than Best Buy and almost as cheap as Wal-Mart with a longe

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And you sir are a moron with no life. I'm in this industry. That is why I post here. What's your excuse. You are beyond being a concerned customer.

texaswireless said:
And you sir are a moron with no life. I'm in this industry. That is why I post here. What's your excuse. You are beyond being a concerned customer.

I don't need an excuse. I am a wireless customer. I find the employees and sales reps postings humorous and a reflection of the industry as it id represented in many surveys.

I am not a concerned customer. I'm beyond that.
If you want a club member website start one. this is a public site and as such yes even " morons" and "idiots" and all the other colorful names you thoughtfully adorn me with will not sway my opinion and only proves a long held standard of debate. When one is losing a debate, One resorts to personal insult. Any ...
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Spin all you want used car salesman. You are still on here wasting your life when you could be out doing something with your time.

I'm sitting in my office, in a wireless store. That used car sales trailer on the back lot must get boring. Tired of taking weekly payments from the credit roaches of the world are you? AOL kick you out of the chatrooms for hitting on too many 13 year olds?

No life. I never told you to leave, I just said you have no life.

C'mon Tex don't fall into his trap. Obviously all he wants to do is argue and have someone to feed his aggression. 🙂

Just want to challenge him on this one. His statement of fact is baseless, and luckily my store is a bit slow right now.

It's slow at his used car lot as well.

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I feel ya Tex. I know that I am stooping to a lower level when I argue with people on here, but it is just so frustrating that I work so damn hard to make the customers happy and do my job to the best of my ability. I used to refer customers to this website, but due to people like this I can't even do that anymore. Wonder how Rich feels about that? I read this post this morning and first thing that I did was report it to the moderator. Im sick of this crap. His opinion SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE POSTED! I don't care if technically he is talking about cingy or not, it's lies, ignorant, and just plain bull@hit that this guy posts and im sick of it.

I won't go so far as to say he can't post, since everyone is entitled to do so. I think when he continues on without making a contribution as so often he does that is what is unneeded.

The guy basically has no life, but his negative attitude has to be countered somehow.

texaswireless said:
Spin all you want used car salesman. You are still on here wasting your life when you could be out doing something with your time.

I'm sitting in my office, in a wireless store. That used car sales trailer on the back lot must get boring. Tired of taking weekly payments from the credit roaches of the world are you? AOL kick you out of the chatrooms for hitting on too many 13 year olds?

No life. I never told you to leave, I just said you have no life.

Im sitting on my dock behind my house. I am doing exactly what I want. I do have more of a life then selling phones. You know why? Because each day is totally mine. Mondays are Saturdays. I do not own an alarm clock. I can aford t...
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If Mondays are Saturdays and you don't have an alarm clock because you can afford (spelling is a mark of character, which you seem to be lacking in these posts) then why post here? I'm not saying you can't post here, but why? Did you already do everything else you've ever wanted to do? Traveled the world? Flown your own airplane? Is there nothing else on your to-do lists? Just curious, since you seem to have nothing better to do then assume things about our jobs. Apparently there is more to life than selling phones, you can jump onto a wireless forum and post endlessly about how easy your life is. Congratulations on all your success, if it really exists. Me, I'm at work and I'm bored. This is the ONLY thing I can do that is even re...
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I am damn proud of what I own and do. Sitting on your dock and typing flames on phonescoop is fun to you? You couldn't even make up a believeable lie.

I guess being on unemployment is nice, no alarms clocks.

texaswireless said:
I am damn proud of what I own and do. Sitting on your dock and typing flames on phonescoop is fun to you? You couldn't even make up a believeable lie.

I guess being on unemployment is nice, no alarms clocks.

Its the best.Yes indeed you are proud. Someday when you get a respectable vocation you might retire early and enjoy unemployment as well.

When I am retired I will go no where near a place like this. Dealing with people like you is a neccessary evil to help real customers sift through the B.S.

Again, if you truly are retired, why waste it here? Do you really want us to envision you sipping Coronas in your retirement AND POSTING ON PHONESCOOP?

texaswireless said:
When I am retired I will go no where near a place like this. Dealing with people like you is a neccessary evil to help real customers sift through the B.S.

Again, if you truly are retired, why waste it here? Do you really want us to envision you sipping Coronas in your retirement AND POSTING ON PHONESCOOP?

Your glorification is nice but its not about sipping Coronas. Real customers can sift on their own. If Im not credible what are you afraid of?

I don't consider this a waste of time. just a passtime.

Answer the question spin-o-matic. You say this is sales spin when it is actually the manufacturer making this claim.

What is funny is this claim is done by manufacturers across many industries. It isn't sales spin, it is manufacturers protecting themselves from cheap AM product.

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Just because they didn't determine AM effected YOUR phone TM doesn't mean anything.

And not sure why this has even come up. I carry pretty much all AM accessories.

My argument about quality stems from construction of the CLA and cases. User replaceable fuses vs. non, cases made with higher quality plastic and leather stiching. There is a difference, and as a customer I recommend you check.

TenMidgets may not care, but...
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texaswireless said:
Answer the question spin-o-matic. You say this is sales spin when it is actually the manufacturer making this claim.

What is funny is this claim is done by manufacturers across many industries. It isn't sales spin, it is manufacturers protecting themselves from cheap AM product.

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Just because they didn't determine AM effected YOUR phone TM doesn't mean anything.

And not sure why this has even come up. I carry pretty much all AM accessories.

My argument about quality stems from construction of the CLA and cases. User replaceable fuses vs. non, cases made with higher quality plastic and leather stitching. There is a difference, and as a customer I recommend y

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I have had atleast 3 customer refused warranty exchange due to the fact they changed the face plate on the equipment. In doing this they have voided the manufacturers warranty on this product.

JephMan said:
I have had atleast 3 customer refused warranty exchange due to the fact they changed the face plate on the equipment. In doing this they have voided the manufacturers warranty on this product.

Betcha most wireless stores sell face plates!

Besides You are a wireless SALES REP. Believe have of what you hear from one and all they say.

faceplates have always voided the warranty since it's an obvious change in the appearance of the phone. However, I can't really see how they could ever tell what type of charger you've used on your phone, though I wouldn't be surprised if they had a way.

The fools I have encountered were the ones who sent their phone to the manufacturer WITH THE CULPRIT ACCESSORY. For example, phone is fried with a cheapo AM battery and they send the battery with the phone to the service department.

At least if your phone is fried AND you use something AM don't admit it and hope they will overlook it.

TenMidgets says it is fear, I say it is common sense. (Did I just say TM and Common sense in the same sentence?)

texaswireless said:

TenMidgets says it is fear, I say it is common sense. (Did I just say TM and Common sense in the same sentence?)

Thats right Fear sells. The more useless the product the more fear is used to sell it.

BETCHA THEY DON"T DUMB FU**! I can't believe that you are still here, doing the same crap. I can only speak for my market, but any store that considers themselves to be a reputable store will not sell faceplates unless they are approved by the maker of the phone, which is far and few between nowadays.

I don't,

Verizon's largest agent Go Wireless doesn't

tadams store doesn't.

Nice try though.

I am not a sales rep, but I have seen many warranties voided by AM parts....at least 2 of which were because the charger fried the phone.


BTW, I am in insurance and don't care what you buy.

BUT WHAT'S THE POINT!!!!

I'm all for a debate. Don't get me wrong, the go-rounds we have here are sometimes fun but this was pointless.

I mean: RadioShack (hold your disdain) will always have superior wireless activations because the old-timers will always start their search (for anything basically) there.

Indirects will always have walk-ins because most of them sent out adverts yammering about free phone-free activation-free car charger-free what's-a-ma-jiggers (see I knew what a jigger was).

Coporate stores will get their numbers.... Okay, maybe they'll just get complaints... No, just kidding, they should take a note from some of the indirects who have a "how to hook a customer/subscriber" handbook.

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I must admit...that was a pretty funny subject thread.

actually I thought this forum was for people who are really, really bored. Hence the economics discussion. My favorite threads are ones with religion and politics, since everyone is wrong in some way or another.

Are you trying to start an off-topic flame war? If so, this is the way to do it. 🤣

Becuase first you were incorrect in your assumptions (or more correctly said, flames) and when called on it you tried to spin out and change the subject to OEM warranty issues.

I guess you are great at that since you have to explain to your customers why the Yugo you drive (and the one you want to sell) is such a great car and that Hondas suck.

texaswireless said:
Becuase first you were incorrect in your assumptions (or more correctly said, flames) and when called on it you tried to spin out and change the subject to OEM warranty issues.

I guess you are great at that since you have to explain to your customers why the Yugo you drive (and the one you want to sell) is such a great car and that Hondas suck.

I was absolutly correct in the OP. You can only insult now. you have nothing to say. For the first time Texass Wireless is speechless.

In the OP? Are you a surfer now? Did you mean to say open or do you want to now discuss surf wax?

No one can refute you because they don't comprehend your horrible grammar.

texaswireless said:
In the OP? Are you a surfer now? Did you mean to say open or do you want to now discuss surf wax?

No one can refute you because they don't comprehend your horrible grammar.

OP means original post. Anyone who has participated in forums knows that.

How stupid do you feel now?

Um.... I didn't. 🙄

Are you a veteran now of forums? Is this really what you ENJOY doing in retirement?

And no, I don't pride myself on understanding forum speak. And considering your propensity to misspell words I had no idea.

texaswireless said:
Are you a veteran now of forums? Is this really what you ENJOY doing in retirement?

And no, I don't pride myself on understanding forum speak. And considering your propensity to misspell words I had no idea.

I enjoy a lot of foolish time consuming activities. And yes things that seem foolish to people who value days off and vacations.

I will agree with you in that yes you do not have any idea,